Is "Miss" == "DODGE"? Also, without Sam attacking & with you and minimap on, please show that Sam's AA says miss when it fails. It does not show miss on failure and it cannot be dodged either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Remember Me
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Is "Miss" == "DODGE"? Also, without Sam attacking & with you and minimap on, please show that Sam's AA says miss when it fails. It does not show miss on failure and it cannot be dodged either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Remember Me
Yes an attack misses when you dodge it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
Video up soon, expecting a ring..
When the sam stun 'misses' it's just that, the pet missed. You didn't dodge it, it missed. Someone do a video of a rogue in a max dodge build using razor and Mali for maximum dodge, then use a George aa on it, that will prove once and for all if you can infact dodge a stun.
Back to the topic of the OP, the dmg pools should be what they were before the buff, maybe even nerfed a bit from that. The heal pools should be what they are now, after the buff. If the dmg pools are nerfed from the original amount of damage they should give kills/deaths, if they stay as they are, they shouldn't give kills. Problem solved. Either you die quickly or you get a death on ur character.
No, if you're dodging it...it says dodge. If you miss, it says miss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Remember Me
This is a very reasonable post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geusaquc
Actually its a dodge, a pet like singe where there is a 60% chance to stun is a miss. Samael's percent is 100% but there is always dodge..Quote:
Originally Posted by Geusaquc
Post.the.video.Quote:
Originally Posted by Remember Me
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KXlg8oUA57gQuote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
May you please watch your video and evaluate the footage? I'm not sure if you're trolling or not at this point...Quote:
Originally Posted by Remember Me
If you look closely you can see that I was not stunned, "Samael always stunlocks so its basically SNS".Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
Where is my ring? I just showed you footage of me dodging...Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
When you hit Sam, it failed on Barzagli and it did not show a miss above either head. What are you not understanding? Please let me know so I can further explain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Remember Me
Where is a dodge? I do not see a dodge? I see 1 miss and that too was from Sam's auto attack. I believe I specifically said for Samael not to be attacking, you to be in resting stance, and minimap on. Are we or are we not testing if Sam's AA can be dodged?Quote:
Originally Posted by Remember Me
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Originally Posted by Zeus
Do you know what Samael's AA looks like....
Barz obviously used it..
And I was not stunned...
I think this game getting messy and tedious and alignments I think you all know what I mean
http://www.spacetimestudios.com/show...ide-Pet-system
If I could direct attention to this amazing guide (yes I'm promoting it) it shows that Samael doesn't infact have a 100% stun, it has a CHANCE to terrify. Not stun, and not 100% as you so kindly replied to me. Just clarifying that.
Back to the OP perhaps? This thread was to determine the overpowered nature of the sns arcane ability. And I'd direct back to my previous suggestion in attempt to re-rail, so to speak, this thread
Well we dont know the exact % of Samael's AA rate so we can't conclude anything I guess, but yes back to the OP... Requesting cleanup...Quote:
Originally Posted by Geusaquc
Yes, where is the dodge or miss? The UI will give you a notification if an ability has been dodged, missed, or failed. We've proven that it cannot be dodged earlier in a thread where me and Madnex tested 50+ times on a warrior and a rogue. The stun rates were nearly the same. So, we can conclude the dodge or miss is non-existent as I was saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Remember Me
I owe you nothing, sorry. I would suggest that you look into the mechanics of your pet to prevent misinformation.
Hence my suggestion that we try a dodge build with George to test the issue of dodging stuns, as George has a 100% rateQuote:
Originally Posted by Remember Me
There's no need for that as Madnex and I already conducted a more effective test that I mentioned above. Also, developers have confirmed in the past that dodge is not a percentage, just a number.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geusaquc
How many singe are there IG? How many s&s? That should answer all questions.
How many singe are there IG? How many s&s? That should answer all questions.
"Dodge" and "miss" are two different things... Who are you telling to learn game mechanics...
I think I've determined the root cause of Remember Me's confusion:
1. Samael's AA is not a 100% chance.
2. The times it fails, it does not show a "MISS" or a "DODGE". Instead, it just means the AA failed. This can be proven by having a rogue and a warrior undergo the same Samael AA and record numbers out of 50-100 tests. This has already been done and data has shown that the AA simply has failed & dodge does not come into play.
I hope you are now able to understand, Remember Me. If there's any other confusions, please let me know. Thanks!
And then someone brought up slag....
Lol ctf wants to make some gold , like he didn't spam enough before nativex went offline , lol maybe he will go back to listing crates for 2m .Quote:
Originally Posted by Remember Me
Hey guys,
I am going to go ahead and lock this thread. We appreciate feedback, but let's make sure to keep it friendly and not antagonize one another in the future.