If they will bring back the para Gems and Eye Gems ;
They should make para Gems tradeable . :D :D
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If they will bring back the para Gems and Eye Gems ;
They should make para Gems tradeable . :D :D
Just another thread put down by casual players * clap * * clap * . Nothing new under the sun.
For me, people who don't want para/eye back or a jewel with same potencial as those 2 gems are casual players or they have a personal vedentta. And for those who have no winding on their brain. Yea, Zeus is clearly trying something here on forum. I don't know what for he needs more gold than he actually has since paragem will be obtainable for everyone? That logic.
I don't freaking want another boring awful flawed event like Ursoth 2015. Worst event ever made. Why? We couldn't have something to make gold from.
I don't want something good to be obtainable by casual players. I want to get something which i can hoard and make gold from in 1 week or 6 months after it's release. If we are going to get another bad reward hard to obtain like a vanity/backpack/banner then we are screwed. Since elites aren't a good way to make gold from how about buffing the prizes of Halloween event?
As i have said in many threads plz bring back paras nd eyes( non tradable bt stachable nd removable)
Sts said they will nt bring back para/eye gems so bring para/eye jewelss.
Nd talking abt jewels system its currently insane, before one could equip lepre run wt4 nd farm a lot of gems. Nd its easy to get 54( 18+18+18) grand fire+glacial+blood gems than getting 1 noble finesse.
And those who r saying they will get replaced, either they want vanity wings for plat reward or have crafted enough jewels or r hoarders.
Nd they should fix jewels drop ratee. Make them drop in low lvl areas like wt4/kt with the same drop rate as essense nd change there rarity to epic( they r mythic nw lol)
+1 to anyone for para nd eyes
+1... Bring back eyes n paras or rethink jewels system... Current jewels are pointless waste of time and not worth the hassle
Jewel system is a complete flop. You don't need to be Zeus to see it.
If it were a viable alternative for gems, no-one would make threads like this one here. Unfortunately it is not and it won't be anytime soon. Gems will phase out - just lol at this.
So yes - revisit and completely overhaul the jewel system or bring back the high end gems.
This thread should be in suggestion and feedback section as it contains suggestions and feedback.
And as for the opinion the para stone should return with glow effect and not with any stats. If they come with the original stats it would ruin the current jewel system which devs worked hard for it. Eventually the gems will phased out.
The jewel system is excellent for somebody who work for their jewel. Because they can reuse their jewels and can upgrade to next tier.
its a burden for those who don't work for their jewel and simply buy from cs.
the title is well written, it is a dillema
even if your intention is good, to make everyone can have para/eyes again, probably most people will sell them for gold instead of using them, so the goal to balance everyone by letting players using para/eye will not be reached. and if they force it by making the gems untradeable, it will only re-live the scam with para gems. and in the end still, OPs with limited edition items will still be there. so, nothing will change
if sts wants to stick with the jewels, they need to force it to phase out, by making it stop scaling up on next cap and probably a limited time exchange of gems to jewels
and anyway they need to increase the chance for looting sns
I really hope Para and Eyes will be back simply cos I didnt start playing AL till early this year when halloween already ended!! I want the Bling Bling (besides the power) !!! :star::star:
Honestly the main problem here is the jewels system: higher tier jewels, especially multiple higher tier ones are practically impossible to achieve and those which are (e.g. nature, water) are extremely useless at end game. Further there is nothing as good as para and eye gems.
Sts needs to either fix the extremely flawed jewels system, or return even gems.
P.S. Either way we need proper rewards for Halloween. After the failure Ursoth was, I am afraid that it my be last event for many if it is yet another flop.
I have been wondering also. Its possible that he is hoping people may think that eye gems will come back, therefore the price becomes lower and he can hoard more? Or he may soon (before everyone else) know for sure if they will come back or not, that way he can sell all of his eye gem/para gem items and hoard gems when they come back. No one in this world tries to help anyone else without wanting something out of it. So either it is that hes attempting to manipulate the market by a well thought-out post, or he has some insider information, and is hoping that the point of "gems wont be brought back" sticks out, so prices are driven further up. As we know, sts is quick to change their mind. Who knows,para gems and eye gems might come back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titanium
Do you know that was sarcasm, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Oursizes
Samhayne stated last year that Mods/Devs won't give any "tips" in chatbox to anyone, either if he's name Zeus or Oursizes. Logically, if para gem is coming back then people are going to rush-sell eye gems, price will drop , right? I know a market manipulation when I see one from miles away. Eye gems are so costly because jewel system is awful. I personally made a comeback seeing fossil put in vendore store which made me decide to buy many vials. All the insight information that you are talking about are in the AL Announcements.
I totally agree with you on this, yes the gems like para and eye will never die and there will be hoarders and the people who can afford them but either make this jewel system give atleast decent stats or introduce para or eye gems back into the game.
These are kinds of gems which wont ever die so why not bring them back and make it available for many players.
I doubt they will bring para and eye gems back but if they do I'll have all of my wutz characters running the event for them lol. I'll most likely add another 20 characters also.
Well I was not being sarcastic. They arent supposed to favor certain players either, but the sns fiasco proved that wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titanium
Easy. New para gem's stats only apply once. It will still have its first time bonus, but the second new para gem gives no stats at all. So, only 1 will be useful to any player. Thus, no one will be able to stack them, as stacking them doesnt give them any extra stats.Quote:
Originally Posted by extrapayah
Eg. Equipping 10 new paras = 8dmg*damage bonus
Equipping 1 new para= 8 dmg *damage binus
Sts introduced these gems to give everyone shiny effects and extra damage, not to make some ppl extremely op. Also, make these gem un-removable, and promise to release them every halloween.
Boom! All problems solved.
Or, make new jewels that drop everywhere that are identical to eyes and paras.
However, they do not scale. U need to collect like 2000 crack jewels to make one of them(does not take up inv space and stack like essenses) tradable, stashable. Also, their basic cracked forms drop like essences. The jewles are lv41. Their basic cracked form gives no stats.
Then, increse jewel stats significantly all across the board and greatly increase jewel drop rates. Make main stat jewels drop everywhere.
Boom. All problems solved
Sounds like someone just sold out his eye gems stock. ;)
Half agree half disagree.
Disagree because, as we all know, current jewel system needs to fixed first, not bring gems back. If gems are coming back and jewels stay as they are, it will be a mess.
Agree because, like you said, there will be always hoarders and only riches will use para and eye as new gears come out. It will be better to give everyone to farm them again. Jewels fail to take the fisrt place of end game atm. Continuing current jewel system and limiting para and eyes will only cause more imbalance.
I like the idea of crafting jewels. If we could craft any same level of jewels, it would be interesting. But drop rate must be increased in this case.
Nah, I still have quite a few man. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Madnex
Lets revisit this topic in 6 months from now, it seems...when people have stats others cannot possibly touch.
Why don't people get the point that bringing para/eye back in the events is just a temporary solution... It's not as if everyone commenting here (with a few exceptions ofc) didn't get a chance to earn these gems when they were released earlier. If they bring those gems back 6months down the line you will find the same people complaining about these gems and 1 year later towards the start of event people making such posts again.
What we need is a permanent solution maybe somehow tweaking the current jewels system so thay they are comparable. I am not against bringing these gems back so please don't try to twist my words here.
What I would like to see is a reasonable permanent solution (current jewel system isn't reasonable)
+1 bring em back
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How about -
Change para gems to add +7.5 damage (not bonus damage, the actual stat) on the first gem and 2.5 for every subsequent gem. #YuGotTrolled
I completely disagree. I would rather see that STS removes all gems that are not socketed into any gear and announces that one month in advance to keep the market crash in check. I can accept that eyes and paras will be in the 46 mythic gear since it is the first season of the jewel system, but I definitely do not want to see a single gem in lv51 gear!Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
He is not winning bro, and you are thinking he wants it back for money (realy fml, lol he got plenty of gold to last him a life time. He just is trying to help get the game back, to be fun.) I one thing to say to u, chill man, chill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ipoopsy
Ikr you can't remove them. People worked hard to obtain them. They truly need to fix the jewels... It's a good system with potential but not adequate as we still rely on old gems.
i totally agree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oursizes
If its brought back, it will be 10X Worst in the near future. Thats how many more hoarders will be...You will get Old and now New people who will hoard them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Transfordark
Just let it phase out like it was intended to. Just remember, once you craft it its stuck on that equipment forever. And if AL ever last that long, it eventually, be another equipment that no one will use as time goes by (especially for end games).
It's better to review this when there's a new lvl cap. Because everything that comes out and if it stays at the same lvl. It really doesn't change anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
i find para to be highly destrucrive and op but of course i believe that is one of the reasons is why sts has discontinued it XD that still didnt stop ppl from using para lol
I agree that para and eyes should come back. I disagree that they should be a reward from an event. Making them an event reward makes them an exclusive item, even if the event is recurring. Make them both tradeable and farmable (in a super hard to obtain way - I don't care) that way everybody has a chance to get them and nobody runs the risk of getting scammed from a guy "selling" his hoarded para from last year
Or put those Paras in locks and make them tradeable.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrenPR
Wouldn't it be better to rework the current jewel system rather than bringing back old gems? Gems tied to events are bad for the game because they aren't obtainable normally. If a new player joins after the event and they realize they have to pay a premium or wait a year to obtain a powerful item, that just discourages them. Stopping the gems in game from scaling further and revamping the current jewel system would be much better for the game in the long run. Bringing back para/eye is only a bandaid on a problem that will have to be addressed at a later date anyways.
I agree 100% w Zeus paras n eyes must come back in Halloween & Winter. It will be a change tht will benifit all players from the twinks to the endgames.
Gl Zeus!
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IMO, I think he's whining... ( I believed he has a second agenda, which is below this sentence)
With that much he has, picture him buying the majority and hoards it...then your back to the same thing again.... (like post #61)
The OP, will ALWAYS be OP...now and in the future, but with his way, it be constantly. If you let the Parastone phase out...it will eventually be on the same lvl playing field for all later on.
Don't get me wrong, for the people who said they have tons of those parastone save...it doesn't mean anything, until you craft them. And if it's not crafted, that means, parastone is useless in their inventory.
Again, let it Phase Out. For those selective few people who still have them will eventually use them up if and when they see better items coming. And if not, it's still useless in their inventory collecting dust.
And if STS catered to people like this, then this game will be a lost cause sooner than later.
PL was their longest lasting game and it lasted approximately 3 years. AL is on its second year and expansions take approximately 8 months.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ipoopsy
Again, let's have this conversation 6 months from now and see who is on the winning side of this argument.
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Originally Posted by phaixe
The damage is already done. Had STG made eye and para gems non-gemmable for L46 gear, we would not be having this conversation.
Have you seen the recent gear coming out???Quote:
Originally Posted by Ipoopsy
Heck if 3 noble jewels are placed in the new mythic ring, the arcane ring is still better.....
Only the new mythic armor is an update only if these jewels are spent..... And I would dare say most people will use eye gems into these sockets, not para stones....
Also, let us assume that their are 5000-7000 players that play this game.
Of that group only about 300-600 will achieve max gear. (let us go with 450)
If 450 people have to max out 18 slots with these high end gems, then 8100 of these high end gems will be used... BUT, considering these people will not have to re-gem their arcane ring, their planar pendant, and their weapon, only 9 high end gems are required..... Meaning only 4050 gems need to be used.
With the way sts is releasing gear, it will be about a year before all the high end players completely abandon their own gear sets, in which case most of these layers have already hoarded all the gems they need to be OP for another year....
I would say at least 2 more years before all these gems are cycled out...Tell me if you would like to wait that long.....
Sorry, I don't think you understand. I ALREADY have the gems to be OP. I have them slotted in the new mythic helm (10M value) and I have enough for the new mythic armor. Given that life expectancy for sets is approximately 6-8 months, my safety is already written in stone. Your protests will change nothing regarding this. The game runs on money & im fortunate to have endless amounts of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ipoopsy
And if you think people like me do not prepare in advance, boy...you are wrong.
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Originally Posted by Caabatric
Thank you for bringing numbers into this. Ipoopsy seems to embody his name. (: