Welcome to the warriors world. (Help us! Please!)

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Originally Posted by arcanefid

The whole point of the thread is that warriors MUST buy a good weapon to be useful. A warrior with a Legendary item or worse is literally useless, while Rogues do just fine with the pink items that they can loot. This is the main difference between Warrior and Rogue. I am not saying that Ebon Aegis should be cheaper, or any other weapon for that matter, I am just pointing out that a warrior that doesn't spend at least 30M in gears is considered useless in any end-game party. Even if the Rogues are literally trash players, they can bully a warrior who doesn't own a good weapon and not run with them.

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This kind of problem is extended on mages too findus. At least we know that warriors should cover and rogues should deal dmg, but mages? What we are now?
I reached 5k dmg to be a good option replacing a rogue, I had to delete shield heal skills and make a full attack build to be at same level of rogues of dealing damage to mobs and bosses and still my single target is not intended to be an aimed shot.
I reached 8.5k armor to be a tank in case they need a tank.

Class roles are gone XD

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Originally Posted by Willl

What about new mobs expansion using ebon weps? XD I wanna see them reflecting the 30k dmg from rogues and lets see if we dont need skilled warriors who heals at right timing XD

Apart jokes, awakens made pve a joke, its easy, none dies anymore.. Even weak ppl can run pve easily now. If sts would make pve maps way harder than now, with mechanics where mages and rogues can get oneshot we will be all happier to have warriors in party.

For example mobs who oneshot players till 7.5k armor, which exclude all rogues n mages to act as a warriors cause even if they have 9k armor they are too vulnerable to tank. The 14k armor warriors will tank easily, or even less but jugg skill will be usefull. This kind of adjustment would make fair pve role, but this would mean to delete the ebon aegis or then warriors will be tank + rogue.
I just mean its hard make happy everyone and its hard find a solution, class roles have all been destroied.

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The proc thing is exactly why STS should buff/change/add skills instead of making the class dependent on their weapon procs.

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Originally Posted by arcanefid

The whole point of the thread is that warriors MUST buy a good weapon to be useful. A warrior with a Legendary item or worse is literally useless, while Rogues do just fine with the pink items that they can loot. This is the main difference between Warrior and Rogue. I am not saying that Ebon Aegis should be cheaper, or any other weapon for that matter, I am just pointing out that a warrior that doesn't spend at least 30M in gears is considered useless in any end-game party. Even if the Rogues are literally trash players, they can bully a warrior who doesn't own a good weapon and not run with them.

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Now i understand your point perfectly clear... As for rogues trash rogue can bully only his own shadow. I'm not dealing with such "low blow" creatures of Al :)

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Originally Posted by Browdy666

Now i understand your point perfectly clear... As for rogues trash rogue can bully only his own shadow. I'm not dealing with such "low blow" creatures of Al :)

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Lol. Yeah, thankfully I don't have that sort of problem because I've been blessed with good friends, all the best gears, and some items which I can sell to buy whatever comes next, but I feel for the new players who pick Warrior and expect to have a good time.

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Originally Posted by arcanefid

Lol. Yeah, thankfully I don't have that sort of problem because I've been blessed with good friends, all the best gears, and some items which I can sell to buy whatever comes next, but I feel for the new players who pick Warrior and expect to have a good time.

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Rly there s still someone who think can start play this game now? Condolence

(No salty intended)

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Originally Posted by arcanefid

Lol. Yeah, thankfully I don't have that sort of problem because I've been blessed with good friends, all the best gears, and some items which I can sell to buy whatever comes next, but I feel for the new players who pick Warrior and expect to have a good time.

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I didn't know that rogue players bullying new warriors in al. In the start of our al journey it's a bad experience with warrior class for sure...

Problem: maps are not appropriate for all classes to run.
Wars should not be able to do that much damage, but they have a weapon that can reflect 2000%. Quite reasonable but idc.

Rogues with pinks are not as strong as you think. You get left behind as well too. Rogue is strong and should be strong. Don’t know how you’ll play the game without a damage dealer.

Mages... you already know xd

Possible Solution: make a new map, worth farming, makes all class required, and preferably a raid map :D

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Originally Posted by Endroids

Rogues with pinks are not as strong as you think. You get left behind as well too.

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I am fully aware that they are no world beaters, but you would have no reason to pick a Warrior with a Pink weapon over a Rogue with a pink weapon.

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Originally Posted by Endroids

Rogue is strong and should be strong. Don’t know how you’ll play the game without a damage dealer.

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We should be able to say that for all classes though. Every class should be strong in that sense, not only Rogue.

Just chillin with my ebon staff and getting carried by the whole pt, good thing they don't see me doing 0 damage

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Originally Posted by arcanefid

I am fully aware that they are no world beaters, but you would have no reason to pick a Warrior with a Pink weapon over a Rogue with a pink weapon.



We should be able to say that for all classes though. Every class should be strong in that sense, not only Rogue.

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You would have a reason to pick a war over rogue if you need a war. But using pinks as an example was pretty bad...no one one really uses them

Wars can tank basically all maps atm, so they should be considered strong, or rather "fulfill their role."

There's just no map that needs requires all classes to run, which causes this "imbalance" ;is at least what I believe in.

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Originally Posted by Endroids

You would have a reason to pick a war over rogue if you need a war. But using pinks as an example was pretty bad...no one one really uses them

Wars can tank basically all maps atm, so they should be considered strong, or rather "fulfill their role."

There's just no map that needs requires all classes to run, which causes this "imbalance" ;is at least what I believe in.

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We're using pinks as an example because the point of the thread is to show how Warriors are expected to spend millions in order to be playable, and how they're absolute trash if they don't own one of the OP weapons.

Going back to the original point... by saying things like “tank needs ebon aegis or it is useless” is degrading yourself. Some of the tanks i play with still use Glint Aegis or Terror Blade or Sprit Weapons.

With the greatest of respect for u flame as i’ve never been in a map with you, there are other reasons why someone may leave a map and leave u alone

A lot of times its because they are bad players who need to be carried by the Ebon Aegis !!!

I have buy both weapon during winter (ebon sword and aegis), i have test them along with terror blade and when i heard that aegis would be nerf i decide to keep only ebon sword and sell ebon aegis and terror blade, so i have use the sword many months but with very high stats (around 5k dmg) and i didnt get less inv in mauso, was running map very smoothly with this setup (full nightmare with many order jewel and many str% awake) so its not true u absolutely need aegis to play, to play with the sword u just need to have very high damage, and if u cant afford enough good jewel and str awake then farm esg until u have enough!

Wew fun read, I especially liked the part where everyone tried repeating the same thing over and over again. Sts knows where the problems are after lots of feedback, fighting over it does nothing, they won't drastically change anything today or tomorrow, we must wait for the expansion and see what they chose to listen to, arguing about whether the ebon aegis is cheap or not literally wastes forum space, thanks

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Originally Posted by Shocan

Wew fun read, I especially liked the part where everyone tried repeating the same thing over and over again. Sts knows where the problems are after lots of feedback, fighting over it does nothing, they won't drastically change anything today or tomorrow, we must wait for the expansion and see what they chose to listen to, arguing about whether the ebon aegis is cheap or not literally wastes forum space, thanks

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According to you STS are perfect beings and they always know what’s up, yet we have those dramatic threads every second announcement because people don’t like what they see. Keep sucking on that little fella.

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Originally Posted by Pleasant

this thread is useless

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If you have nothing to contribute to this thread; Please do not even bother posting.

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Originally Posted by arcanefid

According to you STS are perfect beings and they always know what’s up, yet we have those dramatic threads every second announcement because people don’t like what they see. Keep sucking on that little fella.

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Ever since the game got ebon weapons, many people (not only me) are now complaining of the game's class roles being broken.

"I wonder why".

A request to the devs: Get a warrior with good gears and ebon aegis. Go solo mausoleum. You will see why so many are trying to make the ebon aegis look "oppressed" when infact. It is. So. freaking Strong. Like REALLY strong.

I'm not sure if you guys did test the aegis. But go ahead and see why the warrior class is now in jeopardy.

nerff ebon aegis pvp xD.

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Originally Posted by Flamesofanger

If you have nothing to contribute to this thread; Please do not even bother posting.



Ever since the game got ebon weapons, many people (not only me) are now complaining of the game's class roles being broken.

"I wonder why".

A request to the devs: Get a warrior with good gears and ebon aegis. Go solo mausoleum. You will see why so many are trying to make the ebon aegis look "oppressed" when infact. It is. So. freaking Strong. Like REALLY strong.

I'm not sure if you guys did test the aegis. But go ahead and see why the warrior class is now in jeopardy.

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Shhhhh don’t tell em. ;) After all, our friends are saying that STS knows their stuff pretty well, so they should be fully aware that we can breeze through any map in solitude. Much better than with those annoying Rogues actually.

You can blame warrior when community is also at fault in the first place. You guys have to think about the new players, not old player.
Remember that warrior being replaced by nekro or glowstick, "who need war when we can have 4 rogue with glow and nekro"
I feel sad for new warriors, who's new to the game, they the one who's gonna suffer more.

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Originally Posted by Jairus980

You can blame warrior when community is also at fault in the first place. You guys have to think about the new players, not old player.
Remember that warrior being replaced by nekro or glowstick, "who need war when we can have 4 rogue with glow and nekro"
I feel sad for new warriors, who's new to the game, they the one who's gonna suffer more.

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That's what I'm talking about, but these guys who comment on this thread don't have this issue, so for them all is good.

2k rogues are getting kicked from pugs lol

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Originally Posted by arcanefid

That's what I'm talking about, but these guys who comment on this thread don't have this issue, so for them all is good.

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Yeah, and when they start noticing there are less and less players around in the future. They'll wonder why and what happened.

Remember, not everyone stays around. People come and go. This is why many game developers out there know that appealing to new crowds is how to thrive with success.

Now i see that this thread since start was just about drama and wasting time. As you can see if you still don't get it - no one cares about pink items. Warriors are fine instead of that use same energy with mages case because they are really need it. As for you Flame i'll find you in game on maps because now due to what i've read there I'd like to see exactly why people left you in the map. Last time i saw you in tdm you was without any ss, so it's not surprise that rogues were left. Warrior without speed and cover ability is useless. I'm leaving this "building" have fun in "forum games of throne" while I'll have fun in Arcane Legends :)

[QUOTE=Flamesofanger;3005766]If you have nothing to contribute to this thread; Please do not even bother
You’re asking sts to make the drop rates of arcane items HIGHER. It’s ARCANE supposedly to be the rarest rarity in the game. So why make it a higher drop it. The drop rate now is already high price dropped so much on all ebon weapons. Not everyone should have arcane equipment at endgame if it’s supposedly the rarest rarity in game. That’s why I find this thread completely useless

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Originally Posted by iamlepre

Warriors are supposed to be the "tanks" on this game but atm their are not, we a re not a killers like rogues or mana pots like mages (joke xD)

i wish sts give us ur place where maps became very hard for mage and rogues and them need a warrior to mitigate the dmg, etc.

I don't want to hit 100k dmg... i want to tank that dmg...

Well that's my opinion, i'm warrior main too.

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That's the point! Warriors can soak a lot of damage if well geared, but they're basically useless in farming maps (Esg/Mauso) of they don't have Ebon Aegis, because to fast farm you will want a lot of damage to finish the map quickest as possible. People can invite no Ebon Warriors for Mauso because the map it's a bit hard to finish without a tank, but Ebon Aegis warrior WILL ALWAYS BE PREFERRED.

All we need are better maps to farm, where all classes are needed. "Balanced, as all things should be".

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Originally Posted by Flamesofanger

Yeah, and when they start noticing there are less and less players around in the future. They'll wonder why and what happened.

Remember, not everyone stays around. People come and go. This is why many game developers out there know that appealing to new crowds is how to thrive with success.

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So what you are saying is to give one of the most rarest item in the game to everyone?? What will be the point of farming and grinding or buying plat then? It is exactly the opposite, no one will want to play if everyone own it, need to have a goal in those game or else its boring. And yes the rarest wep need to be lot better than the other one.

true also pvp its unfair now warriors without ebon aegis are useless also pve for example in goblins event i had energy and a loot of altar and i did not have ebon aegis i can't find a party to run at the same time the other warriors with ebon easy for them to find a good party.... i know 30-25m cheap but if i use other set i can't play AL?

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Originally Posted by tkye

true also pvp its unfair now warriors without ebon aegis are useless also pve for example in goblins event i had energy and a loot of altar and i did not have ebon aegis i can't find a party to run at the same time the other warriors with ebon easy for them to find a good party.... i know 30-25m cheap but if i use other set i can't play AL?

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For goblin event, that you have ebon aegis or sword was not making any difference, and for pvp i see many warrior using ebon sword.
And also if u do FFA, u have probably notice that the aegis is useless there, u need use ebon sword.

So until u make enough gold to buy yourself the ebon aegis, you can easily play without it, but again even before the ebon aegis was there it is like any other game, op people prefer to run with other op people, this is like this in any game and it is only common sense.

and to be op there is usually a progression curve, u start game, you make friend that are same caliber as you and you progress with them, you can't play 1 week and expect to be able to always run with people who have progress for years, you need put in the time too!!

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Originally Posted by tkye

true also pvp its unfair now warriors without ebon aegis are useless also pve for example in goblins event i had energy and a loot of altar and i did not have ebon aegis i can't find a party to run at the same time the other warriors with ebon easy for them to find a good party.... i know 30-25m cheap but if i use other set i can't play AL?

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Tainted set is only for pvp. It was never good in pve. I'm sure that you knew it before buying it as well

It’s funny how people complain about warrior are not good before ebon aegis now sts give warrior ebon aegis which is accessible by not many but some what a decent amount, they complain about not having it.
It’s arcane and it drops from 99m to 25-30m Which is still expensive but is understandable as it’s high demand and op , therefore if everyone have it, it will be just another unbalanced.
Be grateful, at least warrior nowadays are not as useless as before.

Side note: I sound a bit salty in my comment, but it is just my opinion no drama here. Just a not and nicely word. Cheers.

first thing i meant aegis in pvp (tdm) second in goblins event i had sword and no one wanna so aegis still make the difference
also tanks before ebon aegis how many kills they got each room tdm 1 or 2 .... 5 max in 4v4 and 3v3 now they can kill better than dps (mags rouges) all that because the aegis proc also the warriors job in tdm is cover so i think u will understand what i mean now

true but i used ebon sword in event (goblins) and still the same problem
see still aegis better

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Originally Posted by tkye

true but i used ebon sword in event (goblins) and still the same problem
see still aegis better / ...i know 30-25m cheap but if i use other set i can't play AL?

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of course better but don't say you can't play AL if you don't have!! loll

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Originally Posted by tkye

first thing i meant aegis in pvp (tdm) second in goblins event i had sword and no one wanna so aegis still make the difference
also tanks before ebon aegis how many kills they got each room tdm 1 or 2 .... 5 max in 4v4 and 3v3 now they can kill better than dps (mags rouges) all that because the aegis proc also the warriors job in tdm is cover so i think u will understand what i mean now

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I killed with ebon sword same amount as with aegis(well i've both again). I can't understand. Next thing 3 kills per fight or 6 per fight not a big deal for me either. Rogue will take them all anyway. If people don't like you as part of pt as tank problem is you not a weapon. P.s. for 1vs1 sword is a way better than aegis if what...

can't play Al just used for attract attention xD

for you not for all bud some tanks kill more than 10 each room lol.... see.... most of them proc kills

I kind of agree with you but from a rogue standpoint flames , this game was originally made for all 3 class to work together ( war- tank , rogue-dmg ,- mage uhm (quote unquote) balanced , anyways this all changed when they added new things , warriors are being replaced in maps by pets , rogues are being overshadowed by the aegis , ( ever try clashing with 2 wars on opp) and mages being replaced by pets as well, subjectively nekro and glowstik anyways no prejudice balanced or not I like the game . That's just my thoughts and honestly I can think of quite a few ways to make the game for profitable to start on either of the 3 classes but I'll save it ^-^ exept for one , maybe revive the nightmare pvp area where we can use our class specific pvp killing builds just my opinion also I took the time to read your statement you have many valid points and I understand how you feel having played as a war myself :)

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Originally Posted by Flamesofanger

(No. I don't want the ebon aegis to get nerfed. Read the full thread please.)

Ever since the ebon aegis was released. All warriors who don't have the aegis will be left behind maps 80% of the times.

I know you guys will say: "But flame, work hard for the ebon aegis then!". How am i supposed to do that when i'm always left behind maps and forced to spend half an hour or more looking for a party or watching the guild list??!

My warriors stats:

15k+ HP

3k+ Damage

3.4k+ DPS

10.5k+ Armor

5k+ Mana

36+ Crit.

(I have ebon sword + Ebon armor and STILL NOT ENOUGH!)

And that is still NOT enough!

Seriously! Now warriors are forced to earn the ebon aegis which is (25-28m+) But you're always finding yourself abandoned in the map to bite the dust in zones you're SUPPOSED to grind hard after a long tedious journey to endgame. So you can get better gears....But how are we supposed to do that?

Mages have dragon staff at least. Which is a cheap alternative to farm with and climb to ebon staff & gun.

Rogues with 2k+ damage can do great without worrying TO DEPEND on weapon procs. For gods sake.

Warriors with 3k+ Damage hit like a child. No matter ELITE + Boss damage awakenings, WE STILL HIT LIKE A TODDLER! But why are you STILL LIMITING our damage when we got the ebon aegis!! Please sts! why...?

I do 6-7k on elite deep marsh/ mausoleum 5-6 bosses with my current stats. And it's still USELESS. Absolutely. Useless!

How am i supposed to stay positive and enjoy this game when i can BARELY have any fun! Not only me! many many warriors are probably in my same situation like me, because ebon aegis is hardly on auction house or too freaking expensive.

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Please. I want to pitch in some suggestions to at least make us warriors more enjoyable:

.Make ebon weapons drop more frequently from lockeds, so we can have an easier time affording them!

.Buff warriors damage and make us function almost as rogues do. A rogue with 2k+ Damage can deal 15k-30k+ Damage. And a warrior with 3k+ damage can deal 13k-21k+ Damage.

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Please devs consider doing something. The situation has become REALLY excruciating for warriors who aren't lucky & rich to afford the ebon aegis (25m-28m) Weapon.

How can we stick around in the game when we cannot even farm with freedom and we're FORCED to buy a weapon with 2000% reflect or we are LEFT. BEHIND.
But how can you even grind for the best gears when you're always left behind? seriously....I am struggling to find any fun in farming again. it has become unenjoyable.

I am speaking for all warriors who aren't fortunate enough to get such a weapon. Not everyone is rich and lucky.

I care for the people. To the people being naive and greedy for the weapons to be ultra-rare/limited so someone feels like a "God" and "Superior" to everyone, this will just result in a catastrophic ending. And you will fall in the crack with us.

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With all respect spacetime studio devs. I love you guys and your great products, but as a warrior main. I am struggling to stay on arcane legends anymore....
I am not being dramatic. The situation has become so bad, it's become desperate to have any fun on this game....

No. I do NOT want to become a mage or rogue!! i have spent SO MUCH time and effort on my warrior. I have untradeables. a bunch of achievement points. Amazing pets i like. Why can't i stay as a warrior??? So unfair to force players to play as rogues (Extremely Expensive class!) And mages (Squishy! Really Squishy!, and expensive gears on par to warriors also!)

Let me be me!

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You don't need Ebon Aegis on M5/6 maps, just use Reflection Barrier Ultimate and it will do the work

~LUCKYLOBO

sorry to say this....i understand n feel u...although i m a mage...well,if every plyer that cant affore arcane/mythic gear n complaining n ask dev to buff their class,then,no point in buying expensive/op gear...ebon aegis is expensive as its kinda most op..so,its bcome hot item...so,price up...same as rog,their gear is pricey than mage n war as they r op class...war r the most op now,followed by rog n mage is the last...if full lvl 71arc with ebon weap....my point is,i see this thread like,low lvl plyer complaining about hard to become lvl cap...u need to grind for it..or invest some money n time

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Originally Posted by profmsb

sorry to say this....i understand n feel u...although i m a mage...well,if every plyer that cant affore arcane/mythic gear n complaining n ask dev to buff their class,then,no point in buying expensive/op gear...ebon aegis is expensive as its kinda most op..so,its bcome hot item...so,price up...same as rog,their gear is pricey than mage n war as they r op class...war r the most op now,followed by rog n mage is the last...if full lvl 71arc with ebon weap....my point is,i see this thread like,low lvl plyer complaining about hard to become lvl cap...u need to grind for it..or invest some money n time

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He has 25 m golden vanity if what :) see what I mean ?