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falmear
First I am only going to talk about the mage class, someone else can discuss their own class if they want. Also I don't know everything on the whim brothers so this is mostly going based on what I have read. For an arcane mage and PvP, Samael is best IMO. Because you already have a lot of damage what you lack is crit. With Samael I can get my crit to 34.88%. This on top of +35 INT & +10% damage makes you a formidable opponent in PvP. And his stun while doesn't work as often as I like is very good when it does work.
Now if we look at brothers whim you have similar stats +35 INT and 15% damage. So this makes it the best damage pet for mage but sacrificing crit. Mages lack anyway of getting crit. So to look at it another way its 34.88% vs 24.88%. Your lightning is critting 1 in 3 vs 1 in 4 times. So if you crit with broths whim you will do more damage because of the 5% more damage bonus. But you are critting less IMO for a mage Samael wins in damage. Because an extra 5% isn't a huge difference. Brothers whim wins in speed because 15% speed in PvP is under estimated and will help you kite and get away while you are dieing. 10% dodge isn't anything to get excited over. The arcane is unknown until I see it in PvP. A description can say whatever it wants but how it works is completely different. So I will reserve judgement on it but from what I read in another thread it sounds very interesting.
If we look at PvE I think this is where Brothers Whim has a real advantage. And if we start to consider doing timed runs then this pet really starts to look great. 15% speed in timed runs is OP. With the increased damage, this will be very good for certain maps. Where having a big crit doesn't matter as much because just stuff dies fast, so think of various easy elite maps, tombs, etc. Samael has the edge IMO for harder maps because of his arcane ability. If you have to beat on mobs for a longer period of time Samael can help with his banishment by thinning the herd or getting rid of that last remaining mob. Also Samael gives you an extra +100 health. And stunning is useful on these harder maps and bosses. Also if the arcane for Brothers whim is correct then a rogue trap on this pet will be great in PvE timed runs. Because doing pulls with this pet will improve times because the more mobs are packed together closely, the faster you can kill them.
So for me I would go for Samael in PvP. Though I think Brothers whim will not be a slouch in PvP. But we will have to see how its arcane works in PvP. And what exactly the passive ability is. But let me go out on a limb and say I think Brothers Whim is more geared to a rogue then a mage. Correct me if I am wrong but with +25 DEX and +10 INT with +15% damage I believe makes it the highest damage pet there is for a rogue. Factor in a rogue's natural ability for crits, I think rogues will be critting more damage with this pet. Also consider next level cap where a rogue's crit will increase and this pet will start to look better with its +15% damage.
You really need to work on your over use of rhetorical writing. After reading you have labled as follows.
1) Brother Whim has an additional +5% damage but lacks the +10% crit that Samael offers. The dodge chance is unimportant.
2) Samael stuns, the brothers don't.
3) Samael has his passive heal to consider
4) the speed bonus makes the brothers better for timed runs.
Points you missed:
1) Samael's banish ability is unmatched for power in PvE making it superior for most elite timed runs (I agree the brothers would be best for the crypts).
2) the Brothers can inflict very high bleed damage (57 damage a tick to me, who has 2004 armor) to four targets at a time. The proc rate is very high for their bleed.
3) the Brothers reduce movement speed of those they attack and pull mobs into mele range with their ability (this is huge for warriors like myself in both PvE and PvP).
4) the Brothers' ability reduces armor by 10%.
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For a mage or rogue, I would go with samuel. But, as a warrior I actually really like the Brothers for PvP. They are the best pet for anti-kiting. Couple that with +15% damage and the high bleed damage, this pet should be great for long fights (what warriors are known for).