Uh hmm.. uh hmm.. what a cop out. You can't even if you try dude.
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And Ava, how long have you been playing rhe game that you think you should already have all the best gear? You joinedthe forum in January. How much longer than that have you been playing?
I agree with most of your points.
However, devs should neva let game economy DICTATE game play. But they did.
Perhaps it's better to scrap elite cave gear drops, just put up quest similar to cybers for those coveted items. If bosses have to drop pink, let them drop common pinks that players can sell in auction for that cheap thrill.
Dude his lies are small. Like "yeah ill add a boss to drop boxing gloves for you bro". How is that gonna mess this game up and how does that have anything to do with his childhood? Grow up dude.Quote:
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Again.. Cinco and many other devs have acknowledged their mistakes and corrected them.. IF he was too proud then there would be a 100% still and he wouldn't make a post about what WE the people want. I have 2,000 forum posts, you have 10. Before you make statements, maybe you should look at some other threads first.Quote:
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Why on Earth would you ever suggest anything that you would never do? Thats pretty counter-productive imo. Also one ultimate map would get pretty boring pretty fast... I would quit so fast because a dungeon like that would ruin the game.Quote:
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Again.. you are wrong. If it wasn't valuable, then why would they build pyramids for treasures only a pharaoh could wear? Lol I know this is going off topic for this one but your full of so much nonsense that I feel the need to correct everything you say now.Quote:
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Soo.. How is it rewarding if you can get the best gear in a couple hours? Sounds like they are just saying "Eh, heres the best gear. Now get bored and GTFO our game". I have already suggested a fix in the Suggestions section that would keep things how they are now and keep people happy... Your system just equals dead game.Quote:
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Exactly, that is what they have done and what they have done is exactly the opposite of what you are suggesting.Quote:
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Sigh. Again, it has nothing to do with the economy. The devs play with the economy all the time and don't give a rat's ***. Every change they make effects the economy. One day laser wands are dirt cheap, then next day Cinco adds a set bonus for it and they shoot up to 300k. The devs dont care about the economy (or so it seems).
But 100% drop rate is no good for ANYTHING. Even if there WAS no economy (there presently is none in DD), there has to be something to strive for in a game, or they simply won't play. Loot is one thing that can be strived for, but not if everyone can easily obtain it.
Even though I can't actually sell any of my DD items to other players (there's no trading system in place), I still farm like crazy in the hopes of finding one piece that's better than something I already have.
THANKYOU! Thats exactly what I was trying to get at.
Ava, lets say that theres is NO economy and NO gold. Lets say the devs will NEVER EVER add it either! Or even better yet. Lets say the entire world had no clue what a trade even is. Then lets say you can get 100% drops in the dungeon, you get all three armor sets. Okay, now what are you going to do in the game? As you have the best gear in the game and quests/lower dungeons are now boring because you can crush them in your epic gear. Would you still play the game?
Oooooohhh.. you wanna play seniority ? Sure, how old are you kid ? I can be your daddy, so YOU listen to me aye.. how bout that ?
A lie is a lie, dude. Can't argue that, sorry.
Well, ya can't expect me to pay for something I don't use right ? So hardcore players want what they want.. they can go pay for it THEMSELVES. I still wanna enjoy PL if you don't mind.
I digress, but too amusing to pass up. Um.. how much salt can a PHAROAH consume in his life time 1 ton ???? GOLD was only precious to the PHAROAH because it was a DIVINE metal. Gold = Color of Sun GOD.
Gold is useless to a commoner, it's all a matter of perspective you see.
In some countries, only Royalties can wear yellow. But is yellow cloth so PRECIOUS ?? Nah... I prefer black, brown or grey.
Would I, a commoner trade 1 ton of yellow cloth for 1 ton of salt, SURE !!!!!
Actually, hardcore players are a heavy burden, they consume the MOST resources, and don't pay much more than casual players. So you are right about that.. nod....nods..... I think Angry birds are smarter that way, they came up with the "Mighty Eagle".
This conversation has gotten so ridiculous. I'm done. Pharcyde, feel free to continue this, but I don't see anything worth discussing anymore.
Well, you know, you guys are just gear crazy. I don't care if I don't have the BEST of the BEST gear. I want to ENJOY playing THE game. And if it ain't rewarding it ain't FUN.
I never say 100% drop rate, I say give us something, SOME.
Playing a map over and over and over and over again..to get that 1% bores the crap out of anyone. ya don't, well good for you, maybe you're the kind that's easily amused.
How do u get to the shadow cave. i forgot what chapter of ao3 is it in
Ahaha!!! I don't give a damn how old you are. Your posts are absolutely pointless and argue invalid points. Also eww um why would I want yo as my dady? Pedobear... I'll listen to you once you get some valid points in your posts. Eh?Quote:
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You sound like a hardcore Catholic, are you? With this whole "A white lie is still as bad as normal lie" junk.Quote:
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Then why the hell would you ever suggest it if your not gonna use it? There is a ENTIRE game for you to enjoy! Why would we just destroy the game so you can go get your Elite gears in one hour? I personally think your just throwing a hissy fit because you missed out on the 100% drops.Quote:
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lol you just totally argued against one of your points earlier. Good job for proving my point for me.Quote:
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Again.. You just argued your point against yourself earlier. You were talking about the devs should listen to their buyers market, now your saying they are a burden. Umm idk were your getting your facts from.. I have purchased 1,800 platinum. Player named Mike has purchased 40,000 platinum. Lesrider I am sure has purchased quite a chunk of platinum, correct me if I am wrong. Arterra has purchased at least 500 platinum, considering every screenshot he has exactly 500 and many other players have purchased large quantities of platinum. These are all extreme players as well. Casual players go with the bear minimum of 75. But theres tons more of casual players.. Either ways Extreme players make this game tick. Who else would get on the forums and help people or build the in-game culture that we have? Certainly not a casual player.Quote:
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If you think the devs over at Angry Birds are smarter, then why don't you stop playing PL and go to Angry Birds? I'm pretty sure no one will miss you here. 10 posts and you have already trolled this entire thread. Gratz bro.
The portal can be found on the last level of Alien Oasis 3: The Victory Lap. You must clear then entire dungeon in order for the portal to appear. It doesn't appear all the time and it spawns in the center portal room.
lol This is pretty ridiculous. I am getting kicks out of proving every useless post he has made wrong though. So i'll stick around a bit longer.
Well then why the hell are there 450k players in PL? Obviously it doesn't bore too many people based on though's numbers. If the devs found that people perfer getting top gears and just farming random pointless maps for fun then they would change it. BUT THEY DON'T! Face it..
Also were not gear crazy, we just care for the health and stability of the game. I got everything in the game, so golds pretty useless to me. I still like to merchant and play the markets because making gold is at least something to do in the game. I have a very un-biased opinion, you don't. You think that since there isn't a 100% drop rate, that the game is screwed.
Lol actually I've only spent like 10-15 bucks on the game. I go for the bare minimum. Has Notjing to do with how I value the game. I just can't justify to myself spending real money on virtual items. I'll pay for the ability to play the game, but that's it. Any extras I got were with the tapjoy plat.
But I don't see how plat purchases have anything to do with this argument. A casual player who comes on once in a while is not going to spend tons of money on a game. And the more money you spend, the more likely you are to become a hardcore player, to get your money's worth.
Anyway, I only responded to correct what Pharcyde said about me. I really have no wish to participate in this conversation anymore, as Ava is making no sense, and just causing me to repeat myself.
oh thanks :D
I stand corrected ;). Also Les, casual players don't always have to be low level or not on much. I know some casual level 50's with top gears and several 50's. To become level 50 requires at least $10 and thats a lot of money from all the casual 50's out there :D.
Wow, listen to yourself. You flip flop like mad.
Read the entire thread and see who is the real troll here. check out the mirror in your home.
Lesrider has his valid points, you on the other hand is a piece of work.
Missed the 100%? ROFL. I was one of them playing the caves at launch and had to BOOT so many players out just to keep the spot for our original group dude. Do I care if they don't nerf the drop rates and my loots go down to 100 gold ? I don't care. But you wanted it to be so elite AFTER you've gotten your share of your 100% drop. Sure.......
Why don;t you give it all away and start from scratch aye ? Go troll the caves again now that drop rate is 1%. That's sure to be challenging for ya.
Getting all bitter aye ? Relax, it's a game.
I just meant that they're less likely to spend tons of money.
Anyway, I go through periods where I'm casual and other periods where I'm hardcore. I was super-casual and didn't really have any specific friends I hung out with, didn't go on the forums, until ao3 came out. That made me hardcore.
But now I barely play anymore, since the nerf. I don't see any reason to be hardcore anymore.