Arcane Legends Producer's Letter - August 2015

What happens to navinex do they no longer support arcane legends??????? There platinum offers always worked!

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Originally Posted by G-M

Thanks Energizeric. Your system is great and very well thought out. Do you think you'd need two modes: ranked and unranked? Would you want to be able to practice against friends without impacting your Duel Rating?

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Actually yes, that would be a great idea.

Here's an idea for that: If 2 players are in a party together and they duel, then it will be an unranked practice duel. If you are not in a party together, then it will be ranked.

I suggest this because it would be an easy way to tell the difference, and when you are dueling your friends, you tend to party each other so you can see each other's health. But when you are dueling a stranger, you would not want to do that anyway.

You should update the loading screen the background on your character screen and stable


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Duels ???????

Can we have NEW GEMS plat tier please:)

Im glad that a duel arena is finally being implemented, no more nasty gangers :)

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Originally Posted by Kingumar

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These things are petty issues compared to the new bonuses of the mythic sets and such.

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Originally Posted by G-M

Thanks Energizeric. Your system is great and very well thought out. Do you think you'd need two modes: ranked and unranked? Would you want to be able to practice against friends without impacting your Duel Rating?

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it would be cool if we can enter unranked dual room from guild hall (maybe another guild extension ?), and anyone in guild can the room to practice.

Just thought of another thing that should be added to duels.... a timer. There's no need for a timer when doing practice duels, but duels that will affect your rating need a timer. Often times warrior vs. warrior battles could end in a stalemate, as do many 1 vs 1 battles among twinks.

Yesterday I did a 1 on 1 battle with my level 10 sorcerer against a level 10 warrior, and it went on forever until we both finally laughed and stopped fighting. If there was no timer in a duel, then it would be a waiting game to see whoever quits first, which would not be fun. So I propose a 2 minute timer for each duel. If after 2 minutes nobody has won, it is likely nobody will ever win.

Also, has there been any discussion about how many rounds? Is it just one fight and then done? Or the best of 3? It would be a pain if every time the fight was over, you had to re-enter the duel again.

ahhhh... Finally... no one to steal kills from 1 v 1 or they butt into it.... whew... ty STS

This event I did well... but I'm sitting in da gh in the torch burning the elondrian druid flag if you know what I mean...
I expect bette in the halloween event.. thx

Yussss hypeeeee and yay free mythic lol

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Originally Posted by G-M

Hi Everyone,

Does it feel to you like Arcane Legends is a whole new game these days? It sure feels that way to me. It's been so much fun to play the game and read your feedback on the Rebuilding of Garetta, the Ren'gol expansion, and Ursoth's Assault over the past seven weeks. Today our game is stronger than ever and it's all thanks to you.

With Ren'gol released and Ursoth well underway you're probably wondering what's next. Well wonder no more!

Coming next month:
• Ren'gol Elite dungeons: Arriving hot on the heels of Ursoth these new dungeons will give you a chance to prove your skills to earn rewards of mythic proportions.
• The King Awakens: Something is stirring. What could it be? Legends speak of Northal, an ancient Orc warrior king who will soon rise from his eternal slumber. Will you be there to greet him when he wakes up?

…and beyond:
• Duels: A number of you have proposed this idea and we've been listening. We're hard at work on a new PvP mode that will allow you to test your might against your friends (or enemies) in one-on-one matches.
• Halloween: We're already hard at work on one of our biggest events of the year. We're putting some fresh new twists on the formula and adding new pets, bosses, and gear. Stay tuned for more on this in the coming weeks!

Last but not least, thank you for being the best community a game developer could ask for. Your ideas, encouragement, and yes even criticism drive us forward day after day.

G-M

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I appreciate that even criticism is understood. Also nothing is "free."

Also not that it matters to me much but if 1v1 takes that long make it one and done.

Truthfully though if pve is only 3 maps in over a year and focus is on pvp... We've got a problem. Still no new elites?

Nice sts! Looking forward to 1v1 pvp mode and Halloween event ( hoping for para stone Or an even better one )
Please don't make plat tier a tltle or a vanity :(
We would want a item the could be useful :)!
And for gold tier pet pls make stats like nilbog but with extra crit or MANA regen

-FansOfViobs
#ibdrools

Notfaded they are coming out with elites soon also they seem 2 b suggesting there will be more maps to come there not bri gi g all content at one time

For the duel also can you add a Sparring? So the people who is doing bad can practice when they want. And during the duel can you add people spectating and wait for their turn? That's all for now but I might think of newer ones :)

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Originally Posted by notfaded1

I appreciate that even criticism is understood. Also nothing is "free."

Also not that it matters to me much but if 1v1 takes that long make it one and done.

Truthfully though if pve is only 3 maps in over a year and focus is on pvp... We've got a problem. Still no new elites?

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Notfaded elites are coming this week. Tomorrow in fact! Then after that King Northal wakes up. This is a really cool new event unlike anything we've done before. Hope you like it!

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Originally Posted by G-M

Notfaded elites are coming this week. Tomorrow in fact! Then after that King Northal wakes up. This is a really cool new event unlike anything we've done before. Hope you like it!

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Nice tease... Interested in this King Northal, if it helps improve my character I'm all for it! If it's a LB chase like Gauntlet, no thanks.

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Originally Posted by G-M

Notfaded elites are coming this week. Tomorrow in fact! Then after that King Northal wakes up. This is a really cool new event unlike anything we've done before. Hope you like it!

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Please,powerful G-M tell me that you will release at least one more map!

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Originally Posted by G-M

Thanks Energizeric. Your system is great and very well thought out. Do you think you'd need two modes: ranked and unranked? Would you want to be able to practice against friends without impacting your Duel Rating?

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Regarding duel, as is all things with record theres a big chance that duelling will be exploited. No to LB banner.

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Originally Posted by G-M

Notfaded elites are coming this week. Tomorrow in fact! Then after that King Northal wakes up. This is a really cool new event unlike anything we've done before. Hope you like it!

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Any more hints on the King's awakening event?

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Originally Posted by Avaree

Any more hints on the King's awakening event?

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I fear that you will have to wait until Friday.

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Originally Posted by Dimitrian

Please,powerful G-M tell me that you will release at least one more map!

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I see that this is the 100th post \(*_*)/

I think i deserve a prize :3
How about some early spoilers about Northal?

P.S.: Avikk...hehe...

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Originally Posted by epicrrr

Regarding duel, as is all things with record theres a big chance that duelling will be exploited. No to LB banner.

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Just hold your horses, this could be a huge opportunity to have a lb that can't be exploited and would actually reflect the good pvp players and gives the chance to anyone who chooses to put the time and work in to be on it. That part is very interesting to me. I like everything energizeric has suggested thus far and I really hope a ranked-unranked lb or some form of lb system could be implemented. Regarding the exploits for lb advantage, I suggest what energizeric suggested with no gains by killing a lower rank, meaning you must duel many times to establish a good rank and your rank grows thus you must keep versing a player with a better rank to gain any rank advantage. For example: player 1 and player 2 start with a rank of 0, player 1 kills player 2 and gains 10 rank points. If player 1 kills player 2 again, he gains only 1 rank point because player 2 has a rank of 0, then if player 2 kills player 1 where he has 0 rank points and player 1 has 11 rank points he gains the 10 rank points + a percentage of the amount of rank points the higher ranked player has he has just killed and player 1 looses said percentage depending on how much lower the rank points are of the lower ranked person who just killed you. Now let's fast forward 3 months after deuls are introduced, there are 25 players on a lb system. The 25 players gain very little by means of having a top 25 rank whereas a low ranked player say even someone new to Arcane Legends can gain massive because of there low rank. This levels the playing field and anyone even someone new to the game has a chance to be on said lb and dummy farmers are out of the picture soon to be surpassed by even a new player that has put the time and work in.

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Originally Posted by Pyrogenie:2259735

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Originally Posted by epicrrr

Regarding duel, as is all things with record theres a big chance that duelling will be exploited. No to LB banner.

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Just hold your horses, this could be a huge opportunity to have a lb that can't be exploited and would actually reflect the good pvp players and gives the chance to anyone who chooses to put the time and work in to be on it. That part is very interesting to me. I like everything energizeric has suggested thus far and I really hope a ranked-unranked lb or some form of lb system could be implemented. Regarding the exploits for lb advantage, I suggest what energizeric suggested with no gains by killing a lower rank, meaning you must duel many times to establish a good rank and your rank grows thus you must keep versing a player with a better rank to gain any rank advantage. For example: player 1 and player 2 start with a rank of 0, player 1 kills player 2 and gains 10 rank points. If player 1 kills player 2 again, he gains only 1 rank point because player 2 has a rank of 0, then if player 2 kills player 1 where he has 0 rank points and player 1 has 11 rank points he gains the 10 rank points + a percentage of the amount of rank points the higher ranked player has he has just killed and player 1 looses said percentage depending on how much lower the rank points are of the lower ranked person who just killed you. Now let's fast forward 3 months after deuls are introduced, there are 25 players on a lb system. The 25 players gain very little by means of having a top 25 rank whereas a low ranked player say even someone new to Arcane Legends can gain massive because of there low rank. This levels the playing field and anyone even someone new to the game has a chance to be on said lb and dummy farmers are out of the picture soon to be surpassed by even a new player that has put the time and work in.

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Thats very similar how many modern fight games such as Street Fighter work. I would hope for a similar system as well.

Also, we would have to ask would someone's duel ranking affect there overall rank on the current lb like achievement points and pve kills do?

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Originally Posted by Pyrogenie

Just hold your horses, this could be a huge opportunity to have a lb that can't be exploited and would actually reflect the good pvp players and gives the chance to anyone who chooses to put the time and work in to be on it. That part is very interesting to me. I like everything energizeric has suggested thus far and I really hope a ranked-unranked lb or some form of lb system could be implemented. Regarding the exploits for lb advantage, I suggest what energizeric suggested with no gains by killing a lower rank, meaning you must duel many times to establish a good rank and your rank grows thus you must keep versing a player with a better rank to gain any rank advantage. For example: player 1 and player 2 start with a rank of 0, player 1 kills player 2 and gains 10 rank points. If player 1 kills player 2 again, he gains only 1 rank point because player 2 has a rank of 0, then if player 2 kills player 1 where he has 0 rank points and player 1 has 11 rank points he gains the 10 rank points + a percentage of the amount of rank points the higher ranked player has he has just killed and player 1 looses said percentage depending on how much lower the rank points are of the lower ranked person who just killed you. Now let's fast forward 3 months after deuls are introduced, there are 25 players on a lb system. The 25 players gain very little by means of having a top 25 rank whereas a low ranked player say even someone new to Arcane Legends can gain massive because of there low rank. This levels the playing field and anyone even someone new to the game has a chance to be on said lb and dummy farmers are out of the picture soon to be surpassed by even a new player that has put the time and work in.

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And for those who are planning to criticize this post I know why already. Say a player kills a dummy and now has 20k rank points and is in top 25, for every dummy kill he gained 1 rank point. Therefore he killed the dummy 20k times. Sounds easy enough to dummy farm a great rank right? A new player gained the same rank by legitimately playing in 2k duels where it took you 20k duels. The legitimate player has dominated the dummy farmer in a fraction of the time.

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Originally Posted by G-M

Notfaded elites are coming this week. Tomorrow in fact! Then after that King Northal wakes up. This is a really cool new event unlike anything we've done before. Hope you like it!

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Will we be able to loot some, if not all of the mythic crafting components if we aren't able to start the mythic quest yet?Current insignia drop rates and prices are not very pocket-friendly, and I know a lot of people don't want to or can't spend tons on a legendary set just so they could complete the orcslaying quest. Thank you!

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Originally Posted by Pyrogenie

And for those who are planning to criticize this post I know why already. Say a player kills a dummy and now has 20k rank points and is in top 25, for every dummy kill he gained 1 rank point. Therefore he killed the dummy 20k times. Sounds easy enough to dummy farm a great rank right? A new player gained the same rank by legitimately playing in 2k duels where it took you 20k duels. The legitimate player has dominated the dummy farmer in a fraction of the time.

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Read my original post and you will see it doesn't work like that. You get far less than a point for defeating a player with a low rating, and as that player's KDR gets lower and lower you get less and less all the way down to zero. So you can't use a dummy to farm kills as you will not even gain a single point before the net gain goes down to zero.

it will be good

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Originally Posted by Energizeric

Read my original post and you will see it doesn't work like that. You get far less than a point for defeating a player with a low rating, and as that player's KDR gets lower and lower you get less and less all the way down to zero. So you can't use a dummy to farm kills as you will not even gain a single point before the net gain goes down to zero.

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Okay I see that now. So #1 ranked duelist could not increase rank by any means?. Or if they could, where would we draw the line? An X percentage less rank kill to gain a certian amount of rank and below the gain is 0? Or only killing players with a higher rank would gain this person rank?

Also are we actually talking about a rank/rating or the traditional KDR system?

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Originally Posted by Pyrogenie

Okay I see that now. So #1 ranked duelist could not increase rank by any means?. Or if they could, where would we draw the line? An X percentage less rank kill to gain a certian amount of rank and below the gain is 0? Or only killing players with a higher rank would gain this person rank?

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You rating is increased based on the KDR of the player you defeat. So even if you are #1 ranked, beating a player with a positive KDR will still give you an increase of more than a point. But dummies that are used to farm have lots of deaths and no kills, so the increase from killing them would be zero. And even if you had a dummy that you gained some quick kills with first, once you killed that dummy a few times the KDR would drop below 1/1 and then the point increase would continue to drop for every death added to the death count.

Making a dummy to farm requires some effort, especially if you are at end game. So leveling up a dummy to farm just to gain a couple of kills would not be worth the time. The best way to increase your ranking would be to stay active and continue to battle other real players.

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Originally Posted by Pyrogenie

Also are we actually talking about a rank/rating or the traditional KDR system?

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Read post #79 in this thread and you will understand.

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Originally Posted by Energizeric

You rating is increased based on the KDR of the player you defeat. So even if you are #1 ranked, beating a player with a positive KDR will still give you an increase of more than a point. But dummies that are used to farm have lots of deaths and no kills, so the increase from killing them would be zero. And even if you had a dummy that you gained some quick kills with first, once you killed that dummy a few times the KDR would drop below 1/1 and then the point increase would continue to drop for every death added to the death count.

Making a dummy to farm requires some effort, especially if you are at end game. So leveling up a dummy to farm just to gain a couple of kills would not be worth the time. The best way to increase your ranking would be to stay active and continue to battle other real players.

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I really like your suggestions on this thread Energizeric. But whats stopping a really desperate killfarmer from making a "good kdr dummy" by making this dummy kill more dummies? This ranking system could also be exploited.

BrING para back
And wc :P

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Originally Posted by eugene9707

Idea: is it possible to add a dual/pvp room in guild hall (maybe extra cost to upgrade guild hall)?
The dual room will be guildies only, and doesn't count for kills and deaths. It's a place where people can learn and try out pvp without being farm till they rage quit (or 50000 deaths)

oh and dummy users can't abuse it :P

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its true sometimes we need to have our own guild pvp room. being an officer in the guild we wished to train our members to be a better fighter and to do that we need a pvp room of our own. its really unfair only strong guild can open their room of their own as they can chase out the blockers. i would prefer a guild pvp room which is accesible from the guild hall instead of 1 vs 1. please sts if you are reading this.. we need guild pvp room more than 1 vs 1. hope you implement this soon.
but never the less i've never been so hooked in any other game like this and dota 2 which i have stopped playing after i start playing this game. ty for the coolest interactive game ever and you guys are amazing with all those events :)
arcane legends forever

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Originally Posted by G-M

The duels will be by invite so you can challenge any player to a duel and that player can accept or decline. We won't randomly match you up with someone who may or may not way out-gear you.

Regarding dummy farming we're not planning to have a leaderboard for duels. Duel wins and losses will be tracked and you'll be able to view those stats.

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Looks like the Duel system I proposed :) nice!

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Originally Posted by G-M

Thanks Energizeric. Your system is great and very well thought out. Do you think you'd need two modes: ranked and unranked? Would you want to be able to practice against friends without impacting your Duel Rating?

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Energizeric's idea was great! It would prevent those pesky dummy farmers. We could have "Leagues" according to duel ratings.
Normal league 0-500 duel rating
Rare league 501-1000 duel rating
Epic league 1001-3000 duel rating
Legendary 3001-10000 duel rating
Mythic 10001-30000 duel rating
Arcane 30001 and above duel rating

Also, a selection of duel. Energ's idea on being in a party would make the duel just a friendly match is great. My idea is make 2 selections.
Tap Player > Invite > Ranked Duel
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Tap Player > Invite > Friendly Duel

Thanks

Yay for Halloween! I missed out on last year's event, so I'm really looking forward to this one! :D

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Originally Posted by Ameyra

I really like your suggestions on this thread Energizeric. But whats stopping a really desperate killfarmer from making a "good kdr dummy" by making this dummy kill more dummies? This ranking system could also be exploited.

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What you are talking about could be done, but it would take lots of work and time to do. Your time would be better spent just fighting actual real players.

Perhaps the solution to this is to cap the amount of points that can be gained from each single duel. I'm not sure what that amount should be, but it is something to think about.

There will obviously always be a way around every system, but if you make it more difficult and time consuming to do than just playing the game the proper way, then nobody is going to want to do it.

The way I designed this system is that kills get more points (double) than deaths lose. So even if you are an average player with a 1/1 KDR, you will continue to gain points the more you participate. I think the best use of your time to move up in rankings is just to continue to duel with real players.

Another things to think about is perhaps to limit the leaderboard to players over a certain level. It takes a ton of work to make a dummy to farm at level 46, and if you are going to make even other dummies for that dummy to farm, you are talking a lot of work to level all those characters up to 46. However if someone does PvP at level 3, it would take 5 minutes to create a dummy to farm. So perhaps a solution is to allow everyone to duel and everyone to have a duel rating, but limit the leaderboard to players over a certain level. Perhaps it should just be a leaderboard for end game.

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Originally Posted by Energizeric

You rating is increased based on the KDR of the player you defeat. So even if you are #1 ranked, beating a player with a positive KDR will still give you an increase of more than a point. But dummies that are used to farm have lots of deaths and no kills, so the increase from killing them would be zero. And even if you had a dummy that you gained some quick kills with first, once you killed that dummy a few times the KDR would drop below 1/1 and then the point increase would continue to drop for every death added to the death count.

Making a dummy to farm requires some effort, especially if you are at end game. So leveling up a dummy to farm just to gain a couple of kills would not be worth the time. The best way to increase your ranking would be to stay active and continue to battle other real players.

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Hmm I see. Very well thought out. My fingers are crossed. I want to see this put into action.