I agree with pretty much everything Parth has said. Too bad there's not a "thank all of Parth's posts" button.
Yeah, Lowlyspy hit it. You are REALLY going to regret it :D
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I agree with pretty much everything Parth has said. Too bad there's not a "thank all of Parth's posts" button.
Yeah, Lowlyspy hit it. You are REALLY going to regret it :D
Bud Vs. Entertaining. Very interesting. Let's take someone with +5 damage and +5 armor, put them at level 10 and pretend like they aren't completely overpowered. To say that the allowing of founder's in the tournament wasn't completely unfair is just lying. How about you bump that level 10 up to level 17, keep the founder's helmet on and see how it ends. Or after their tournament match they can play to 4 without a founders, to be sure no funny business goes on with screenshotting...
and @ hahahahabirdy, i think it's pretty obvious why... Endgame has more founders... If any endgame players wish to brag themselves up because they can use a founder's helmet to destroy any non founder at level 10, that is their choice but they must know how ridiculous they appear to anyone else.
As for my original post, anyone who would like to accept my challenge and show me what Endgame may or may not have as far as skill goes, may add "Imp" and message me in game. I really would like to see some good Endgamers show me what's up/get destroyed.
We returned the favor by competing at your level, as shown in the tourney, why don't you return the favor by attempting to compete at end game? Or are you going to complain it's just luck?
I swear, twinking has some of the most egotistic people I've seen, not to mention immature.
End game is more sophisticated, twinking is basic, which is why you see basic gear, basic procs, basic combos, and rely more on your weapon/who can kite more to win.
Please, tell me L10-20 PvP is not just that. I left at after the crossbow age not because I couldn't adapt, but because if I wanted to shoot my weapon all day, I'd rather rely on a level 1.
You have, what, 3 skills to rely on? That's not more than 9 possible scenarios of approach, pretty easy to memorize.
End game has 70 skills to rely on? That's 4,830 ways to approach. Numbers don't lie.
Also, those stats are derived from just the same class vs same class. End game has A LOT more variety as to the types of classes, and you need to know how to beat all of them, not just a dex bear.
And the word of the day today kids, is ego!
I fail to see where your numbers are coming from... In what does endgame have 70 skills in that low level has 3?... Hmmm... If twinking is basic, surely endgame can beat me at it, since they are so elite. I offered free power leveling to anyone who tries. Did you want to level me to 70? I don't think you do... Now if you want to talk approaches, let's have some fun with that. At level 17, I have 16 skill points, and 9 skills to choose from... At level 70, you have 69 (hehe (only to prove your point about low level immaturity)) points to spend on 12 different skills. That leaves nearly every skill you would get to use in your short 1v1s used, correct me if I'm wrong. Now, at my level, I use EVERY LAST SKILL POINT that I have. Shocker, right? Building off of Entertaining's point, Endgamers often use their buffs and maybe 3 skills before the die a horrible and quick death. Thats maybe 42 point at the most. How difficult to approach endgame, when you only need to use half of your points anyway (sometimes). What I will say makes Endgame difficult is the perfect combination of Strength, Dexterity and Intelligence. That is nearly limitless, but I'm sure you can just ask an experienced player for a good starter build, as nice as everyone sounds up there... Once again, I did not want to make an argument thread, my goal was to call out the end game regulars in hopes that they come quietly :)
It's funny how you say at end game you only buff and use 3 skills, while at level 10-15 you pretty much only have 3 skills.
The difference is, the 3-4 skills you choose GREATLY affect the 1v1, while in endgame both sides can nuke each other at the start of the fight with just half of the skills they have...
Wow. Is this thread still going? Let me pose a question to those of you who can't seem to let this die. Do you go to school/work and brag about your bird/bear/mage? I think not. Why? Because we all know that bragging about a game gets you nowhere, maybe even laughed at. In some cases, laughing as hard as I am about these "I'm better" posts.
And before someone cones in and talks about my pvp ability: I stink at it and I could care less. I play a game for fun, no to satisfy my ego.
Sorry, made a mistake in my calculations. There isn't 71 skills, LOL, but, that doesn't detract from my point of more variety to choose from. You have 3 skills to choose from, it's Neanderthal, doesn't take much to memorize those skills ranges, the combos are still the same, no different approaches because you only have 3 skills.
And do you really think end game fights are short? LMAO! You truly haven't grasped the concept of end game then, because a match pro v pro takes a good half hour or more? If you know how to survive, fights aren't short at all. I'd dare say fights last longer.
Believe it or not, but if you are good at endgame you will be able to survive/counter nukes and get to use even more than 3 skills. How amazing is that!?
I have countless different combos and approaches on my bird, depending on opponent, class, spec, situation etc. 9 different skills + buffs that all have to be timed precisely and in the right order. A missed/dodged hellscream or stomp is not the end of every battle.
If your understanding of endgame PvP is pure "button jamming" I'm not surprised that you die within one nuke and prefer to stick to <20.
Actually, I'm yet to try endgame, hence offering to try it if anyone tries low level. There is no need to be rude about it Gaunab, and it is no surprise to me that yet another person has come by, attempted to convince me endgame is tough, and left my thread without the name of their level 1 for power leveling. If endgame is as difficult as you all make it, SURELY you could pop into low level, destroy me, and post screenshots of it? Why is this yet to happen?
I found that level 17 isn't super hard... It takes some skill... However endgame isnt run for the money gogo either I takes skill... So don't tell us we're bs just because you don't appreciate that lvl of pvp... The only lvl I haven't pvped at yet is 45 and 1... So don't say endgamers haven't tried other stuff to...
Apollo you are really under exaggerating alot. I told you I have 9 skills to choose from, and the obviously huge variety of weapons and armor to choose from. At endgame, everyone recieved the EXACT same sets. Every little stat point can and will affect the fight in low level, and playing to your strengths is also important. To get the edge on other players, countless new strategies are developed in BOTH levels of game play. Perhaps it was simple when you were there. To maintain my edge, I will refrain from explaining every last hidden game mechanic and strategy for low level. Once again, I am yet to see any of you in low level. Obviously both levels of PVP are difficult, as stated in the OP.