The Community Deserves Better

drop S2 @sts and see how it plays out

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Originally Posted by Nasx

Hello Mely! Let me introduce myself. Im Nasx and I come from Pocket legends (I’ve never played Arcane legends other than playing up to L6)and have been playing PL since 2010. I have the most TOP 10 LB placements for events in the game and been 1st to Cap L105 and L115 and well over 200k PvP kills combined on toons so u can see my passion and experience in the game. For some reason I was curious about why Arcane legends is doing so well and out preforming PL and seen your post and I feel for you. I want you to understand that this problem will only be the start. Developers are no longer worried about making the gameplay the best experience/enjoyable, yes companies need income to sustain but that’s the thing they are bringing in income and players are spending massive amounts for STS too only majorly profit and Make game KILLING changes while ignoring the community THAT MADE THEM absolutely killed the best mobile mmo PVP any game has seen. Currently there’s not a single level in pocket legends PvP that’s enjoyable and there’s so many options/levels to choose. STS can EASILY fix this and I really do mean EASILY but it goes against their profits. You see, STS goes based off what brings them in the most money they could have an active game and that alone will keep income coming in and keep servers up. BUT Instead they choose the greed option, understand that if STS goes under tomorrow and all games are dead they won’t need income for a very very long time. I’d like to talk about your concerns, one being the new gear system and spending massive amounts just to use it until next event comes and same thing over and over and over. Let me tell you it will only get worse 100% and eventually that system will bleed into your PVP (I have no idea what the state PvP is in your game) but if it’s good it will only be met by greed and will be burned down to the ground. I’m not kidding if you log into PL and check the PVP kills LB you will see people with 200k+ on one toon and these kills were all before 2020 majority being 2011-2017. The game did not just die out of no where, it’s VERY clear what killed it -GREED. The past 3 years PL’s events have been same for each and every event having the same top 10 rewards,badges,vanity when people are spending MASSIVE amounts on the game, they can’t even balance caps PvP because they are still introducing items that are P2W that have been planned months and months in advance, it’s a system of profit and profit only that’s why I felt the need to reply to this. I really do understand your frustration as an OG player to a game and had experience the game in every way so you know what made the game good ORIGINALLY and why it brought in so many players. I appreciate your post I could almost copy paste your thread in PL’s forum. Don’t listen to everyone responding to you with nonsense about u don’t even farm gold or “dadada” it’s all ignorance and people just want to combat for no reason but be careful because what you REAP, you SOW and they will find out the hard way. I thank you if you actually did take the time to read this sorry about the format and grammar I didn’t have much time for this but I felt I needed to tell the truth as someone who’s at the VERY TOP level of PL. unfortunately this thread will never be responded to by devs and better yet they will act like it’s not here. And if you could respond and tell me what devs type here on arcane forums so I can check in from time to time would be amazing, Thanks for everyone’s time, -Nasx

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I truly appreciate your perspective and the time you took to write this. It’s refreshing to hear from someone who understands the deeper issue at play, not just in AL but across STS games. Greed is killing what made these games special. It’s frustrating because the players who built this community, who kept these games alive for years, are being ignored in favor of short term profit. The current state of the game is unacceptable, and it’s time for change but To put things into perspective, 50B gold in Pocket Legends is roughly 900B in Arcane Legends because that’s the equivalent of nearly $2 million (according to their gold sells with plats) Unless you're Bill Gates, that wouldn't make sense haha.

Despite all of this, the reason many of us are still here isn’t because of the game itself, it’s the community. People built real friendships here, some have grown up together, and that’s what keeps players coming back. It’s not the vanities, it’s not the constant "upgrades" it’s the people.

I appreciate your insight, and it’s honestly sad to see PL went down the same road. As for dev responses, they rarely engage in meaningful discussions here. They either ignore these threads completely or give a vague, scripted response that doesn’t address anything substantial. But I’d love for you to check in from time to time, your experience and perspective are valuable, and it’s clear you genuinely care.

I’ve been playing Arcane Legends since 2012, and in all these years, I’ve never once spoken out about the game’s direction. But enough is enough. The level of monetization and power imbalance has reached a breaking point, and if nothing changes, this game will suffer the same fate as PL. Many players don’t speak up because they’re either afraid of getting banned for voicing their concerns or they believe nothing will ever change. But silence only enables the problem to grow. I’ve given so much to this community over the years. I used to host massive giveaways, and even today, I constantly give items and gold to players. I genuinely care about this game and its players, which is exactly why I’m speaking up now.

As a platinum buyer, I don’t care about spending and make AL economy running, I’ve done it for years on multiple accounts. What we’re asking for is simple, make our investments worth it. More garantee, more lucks, more exclusivities for grinders and a better system and balanced class.

You can keep banning people because they ask for refunds or start seeing the facts: Your community is pissed off.


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Originally Posted by rhinestoneRat

This is true. Idk what happened to the lb’s these past few years but most have been lackluster besides a few. I know sts can make good vanities like Medusa, ice spirit etc. take a look at this ursoth event the sets in the crate are nice, these are the type of sets that lb players want, but no lb gets a set of weapons. All the nice looking vanities now are in crates and lb gets nothing worth running for. The bare minimum for a top 10 or top 5 lb should be a set. Not a bunch of weapons since when did this become the norm? Lovecraft and now ursoth.

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I actually dont mind if they put different Lb Vanity varities inside T10 or T5 but they should be special. in Lovecraft the crafted vanitiey especially the crafted chakram looked more expensive than the actual Lb Vanities and thats just not how it supposed to be. i even prefer, Black Hooks, Immortal Corruption Daggers over T10 Lb weapons. Maybe add an effect, an additional aura like Kershal or V. pavise or add a special effect for hitting - it doesnt matter - they should be unique and not getting cheap like.
Calculations:
Lovecraft Event Top 10
2500 Prime Hugthulu 2600 Hugthulu
2600x~550k (Energy)= 1,43b (ofc its also farmable - still its the price for energy)
2500/4 Letter (if have party throughout the whole event)= 625 (mostly bought and crafted for 1m) = 625m
10 min. elixir for 10 plat in auc = ~1,6m - the elixir alone if you ran it took over 1,4b gold
Total: +3,4b
Rewards worth:
Weapon Set: Rogue: 450-650m, Mage: 550-750m, Warrior: 550-750m
Corrupted Jewel: R 175m, M 160m, W 170m
Title: 100m
Badge: 100m
Wings: 75-100m
50 Awake Gems: 25m
Banner: 15m
Reward Total: ~+- 1,1b

-2b and lost 2 weeks haha well thats average prices but its a loss, even if I wouldnt have used elixir - still a loss
Mark all those prices are in the range of what people is selling it so ofc there can be a lucky one who sold it for more or unlucky ones who sold it for less

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Originally Posted by rhinestoneRat

This is true. Idk what happened to the lb’s these past few years but most have been lackluster besides a few. I know sts can make good vanities like Medusa, ice spirit etc. take a look at this ursoth event the sets in the crate are nice, these are the type of sets that lb players want, but no lb gets a set of weapons. All the nice looking vanities now are in crates and lb gets nothing worth running for. The bare minimum for a top 10 or top 5 lb should be a set. Not a bunch of weapons since when did this become the norm? Lovecraft and now ursoth.

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As someone who ran just about every LB past few years, I now have fully retired from lb no longer are the awards remotely worth the investment let alone the time and energy

The system is just to far gone and I see it getting worse with every preview

Now the effort is clearly being put into how many new gears,gems,elixirs and vanity locks crates can sts come up with to milk the players

Even I struggle to keep up with the new gears and awakes and I had billions but now it's at a point where I'd HAVE to buy plat to keep up

Which I never had to buy plat prior to 2024+

There is no options for FTP gold sources like years past, we could actually profit during events especially

I don't farm gold

I couldn't even imagine starting this game as a new player in its current state

The devs should continue whatever game model they envisage for the sustainable continuation of the game. I understand everyone's concerns, but the continuation of this game is more important to me because I get the gaming experience I have never had in my life in this game, and it is on mobile. Therefore, let it be whichever model is best for the devs.

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Originally Posted by Darklotusss

As someone who ran just about every LB past few years, I now have fully retired from lb no longer are the awards remotely worth the investment let alone the time and energy

The system is just to far gone and I see it getting worse with every preview

Now the effort is clearly being put into how many new gears,gems,elixirs and vanity locks crates can sts come up with to milk the players

Even I struggle to keep up with the new gears and awakes and I had billions but now it's at a point where I'd HAVE to buy plat to keep up

Which I never had to buy plat prior to 2024+

There is no options for FTP gold sources like years past, we could actually profit during events especially

I don't farm gold

I couldn't even imagine starting this game as a new player in its current state

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I mean i always bought plats and it never really disturbed me even tho i was unlucky sometimes but atleast my money was worth it and could sell back my items to upgrade. The paid content is really understandable and its very normal. But its not normal that Arcane Legend cost more than my rent to remind competitive. Everything is expensive and loses value.

The marketplace is totally broken, and for those merchants that complain because of my post, all i have to say is you wont have shet to sell if it wasn't us buying them to run the economy.

@Darklotusss i feel you so much about lb event, this is so disappointing. There is no exclusivity at all.. there no difference of running top 10 or just normal lb anymore.. They know we are addicted to this game so they wont make effort to improve it and listen to the community. I feel SO BAD for those new players or even OG that came back..

Let's be honest for a second, playing game is mostly an escape to the reality world. We play it to release stress and to forget everything wrong for few hours. It's our distraction and friend reunion times. Arcane Legend made alot of us meet in real life. Devs doesn't realize how big and deep this game mean for alot of people. It's like they purposely killing this place.

This is heartbreaking witnessing this..


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Originally Posted by Microice

The devs should continue whatever game model they envisage for the sustainable continuation of the game. I understand everyone's concerns, but the continuation of this game is more important to me because I get the gaming experience I have never had in my life in this game, and it is on mobile. Therefore, let it be whichever model is best for the devs.

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I gotcha, but they need investors to keep it running and for you to keep enjoying a so beloved game. We all want it to continue, this is why we fighting for them to hear us out. There is concerning flaws that need to be reviewed urgently and i think this forum is exactly meant for it; To help the developers improving this game from the "inside" view.

People keep saying they don't care they just think about money/profit but i don't think its true because at this point they wouldn't even bother and sell the company when it was at its prime. Because as someone that work in business, if they make it more worthy, people will buy more, and new players will start investing as well. So they'll make more profit actually.

It's something else that going on, obviously they lacking of competent, qualified staff but mostly passionate and dedicated.


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+9999 to all those that the colleagues say. The game is already coming to an end due to the lack of commitment that the developers have for the players (not pay to win), these being the largest community that a free game can have and being the ones it should be focused on.
The PVP (no longer exists) and I remember well how fun it was to go to those maps.
The TIERS and SELLER of the Events are no longer worth observing because the rewards are always the same NOTHING for common players.
The only thing they do is put Locked so they buy Plat and spend.
I just ask that you don't forget the Free to Play community. The game has all the potential to be Top 1 if they do things as has already been requested on several occasions.

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Originally Posted by Mely Original

I gotcha, but they need investors to keep it running and for you to keep enjoying a so beloved game. We all want it to continue, this is why we fighting for them to hear us out. There is concerning flaws that need to be reviewed urgently and i think this forum is exactly meant for it; To help the developers improving this game from the "inside" view.

People keep saying they don't care they just think about money/profit but i don't think its true because at this point they wouldn't even bother and sell the company when it was at its prime. Because as someone that work in business, if they make it more worthy, people will buy more, and new players will start investing as well. So they'll make more profit actually.

It's something else that going on, obviously they lacking of competent, qualified staff but mostly passionate and dedicated.


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I realize my comment was very simplistic and I understand the concerns everyone has. However, everyone is right in their own way about what they are talking about, and what I am trying to say at this point is that no matter what happens in the end, I must respect the decision of the devs and their decisions so far, because they are the people who took the necessary steps for the continuation of this game. However, I would like to thank everyone who commented, I am sure the devs will take these ideas into consideration.

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Originally Posted by Mely Original

So true. And speaking of which.. You know what actually makes me laugh? Little details they change for no absolute reason but thinking "profit" for exemple, they removed the essence drop in event maps lmao.. why? I just spent 2b of gold to run top 10 for the Lovecraft event and i can't even loot some essence in the map. Seriously what is that?

The worst, i just came back to the game last month after i quit for 5years. The main reason i run this even was to get the badge and title for the new aps. News flash, i just found out they are tradable so i run this reason for what exactly? Because those really bad designed vanities, badge and title doesn't worth the 2b i just spent. And their new gem? Real joke. Sek and i ran this event none stop on the Fleet elixir for 2 weeks and none of us, nor my other friends looted a single gem. The top lb doesn't worth it, its just a show off to see your name on top for 2weeks.

The badge and title "TOP LB" is tradable but they make us BOUND to your account a 600m weapon (Chakram for APS) which gonna be useless in 2months? You can clearly tell they being careless and full of nonsense. And by ignoring this post just proves me nothing gonna change.

Well, good luck new players!

P.s Change your designer because those vanities are sad and feels like Roblox caliber. We want vanities that worth it such as Ice spirit, medusa, yeti! [Ect]


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I totally agree with your comment. LB rewards are no longer what they used to be. Instead of creating unique and exclusive rewards, they just copy and paste previous designs. What’s even worse is that they’ve started putting the best-looking vanities in lockeds instead of making them part of LB rewards. It’s obvious they’re prioritizing profit, targeting the players who spend thousands of dollars on platinum.

Leaderboards are supposed to be something exclusive, something worth competing for. But instead, they keep throwing weapons into LB rewards while putting the real rewards—the vanities players actually want—into lockeds. Ursoth is just another example of this. I was expecting a decent LB vanity, but of course, the vanity went into lockeds, and LB rewards? Just more weapons. What a joke.

Merchants, they have no idea what it’s like to actually grind an LB. They don’t spend hours farming, running maps, or competing—they just open their wallets and wait for billions to roll in. I don’t really care what they do, but at least they should avoid giving opinions on things they probably know nothing about.

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Originally Posted by ThaAnas

I actually dont mind if they put different Lb Vanity varities inside T10 or T5 but they should be special. in Lovecraft the crafted vanitiey especially the crafted chakram looked more expensive than the actual Lb Vanities and thats just not how it supposed to be. i even prefer, Black Hooks, Immortal Corruption Daggers over T10 Lb weapons. Maybe add an effect, an additional aura like Kershal or V. pavise or add a special effect for hitting - it doesnt matter - they should be unique and not getting cheap like.
Calculations:
Lovecraft Event Top 10
2500 Prime Hugthulu 2600 Hugthulu
2600x~550k (Energy)= 1,43b (ofc its also farmable - still its the price for energy)
2500/4 Letter (if have party throughout the whole event)= 625 (mostly bought and crafted for 1m) = 625m
10 min. elixir for 10 plat in auc = ~1,6m - the elixir alone if you ran it took over 1,4b gold
Total: +3,4b
Rewards worth:
Weapon Set: Rogue: 450-650m, Mage: 550-750m, Warrior: 550-750m
Corrupted Jewel: R 175m, M 160m, W 170m
Title: 100m
Badge: 100m
Wings: 75-100m
50 Awake Gems: 25m
Banner: 15m
Reward Total: ~+- 1,1b

-2b and lost 2 weeks haha well thats average prices but its a loss, even if I wouldnt have used elixir - still a loss
Mark all those prices are in the range of what people is selling it so ofc there can be a lucky one who sold it for more or unlucky ones who sold it for less

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I think devs, after so many years, have completely run out of design ideas, and their only response now is "If you don’t like it, don’t get it."

A lot of players have already lost hope in getting good rewards for the effort it takes to run lbs. The only thing that makes it somewhat worth it now is the gem, title, or badge, though sometimes, even the title and badge aren’t that great.

I really hope they consider everything that’s been brought up in this post.

The biggest competition for this game is yet to come with Supercell's upcoming mmorpg game. If you don't like the current state of the game, don't play it, I know this is very sad, but Arcane Legend will no longer get better, Arlor is not as we knew it and from my point of view the developers are doing the right thing, Spacetime Studios is a company and companies are destined to make money, in my opinion Arcane Legends no longer has a solution, but who knows if in the future they will do things better in Arcane Legends 2 :)

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Originally Posted by Shxrk

I think devs, after so many years, have completely run out of design ideas, and their only response now is "If you don’t like it, don’t get it."

A lot of players have already lost hope in getting good rewards for the effort it takes to run lbs. The only thing that makes it somewhat worth it now is the gem, title, or badge, though sometimes, even the title and badge aren’t that great.

I really hope they consider everything that’s been brought up in this post.

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Lb's Titles and badges doesn't worth it because they are tradable. They are not exclusive for grinders. So basically you going to waste more money to grind lb than if you just wait couple weeks and buy it from auction.

There is absolutely no reason anymore to run leaderboard +the best vanities are in crates instead. That's what i mean by incompetence pretty much.

This Ursoth? Im not even disappointed because i actually didn't expect nothing better anyway. Just another clueless event that give us no actual reward nor gaining gold.

Btw! Good luck guys for the new amulet, get your credit card ready, they want more! XD


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Originally Posted by Sakune

The biggest competition for this game is yet to come with Supercell's upcoming mmorpg game. If you don't like the current state of the game, don't play it, I know this is very sad, but Arcane Legend will no longer get better, Arlor is not as we knew it and from my point of view the developers are doing the right thing, Spacetime Studios is a company and companies are destined to make money, in my opinion Arcane Legends no longer has a solution, but who knows if in the future they will do things better in Arcane Legends 2 :)

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Telling people to just quit instead of pushing for improvements is exactly why the game is in this state. Players are the reason a company makes money, ignoring them is how games die. If they want long-term profits, they should care about keeping their community happy, not just milking them dry. And if they truly have no interest in fixing things, companies also sell to better owners who actually do.


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There is absolutely nothing to craft..

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This 5years old design halo is the only thing we can grind.. there is no badges or titles, no vanities..

We doing this event for what exactly? What theres to grind?? At least 15 players already saying they put 8000 plats to not even get a single red item. That's around $270. Dont you think its alot for couple speed elexir?? Srly wtf man

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Originally Posted by Mely Original

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There is absolutely nothing to craft..

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This 5years old design halo is the only thing we can grind.. there is no badges or titles, no vanities..

We doing this event for what exactly? What theres to grind?? At least 15 players already saying they put 8000 plats to not even get a single red item. That's around $270. Dont you think its alot for couple speed elexir?? Srly wtf man

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I put 450 plat only got mage blood arti this event and last event i spent 4k plat and got blood arti rogue blood chain and blood belt the numbers so dam random buttt its way worse then last year if i have to comapre it to egg zavier 2024 crate those crate odds were extremely busted in 100 pulls u get 4 kraken 7 sb pieces 3 arcane pets 5 heroics pets ever since then i compare any crate that comes out to eggzavier crates lmao


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Meanwhile last event i put 20k plats for a blood armor only xD

Congrats on the arti! :)


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Originally Posted by Mely Original

Meanwhile last event i put 20k plats for a blood armor only xD

Congrats on the arti! :)


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Omgg thats horrible congratz on armor and thanks


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yea crate odds suck but sts dont care because people open them anyways knowing they dont drop anything, taking advantage of peoples addiction

This was honestly something that was coming for years. I called it out years ago and got cinco to respond on it. Ofcourse there was no changes since as you can see. The game is unfortunately heading towards it's downfall.

Ive played this game since i was a kid and now im well into my adulthood. This game has been with me for half my life and it hurts to see it has turned into a even worse cashcow. Ive made friends in this game, ive even met one of them RL and we had a amazing time together. To see something youve been enjoying turn into this? Its heartbreaking

Here's the thread if anyone is curious: https://www.spacetimestudios.com/sho...ong-post-rant)