Sewers.... It's the variety that made it the best cap!
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Now, I agree that both levels of PvP are difficult, but I maintain my stance that end game PvP takes slightly more skill.
I will fight your twink at your level IF you fight me at end game, deal? If so, my twink is PlatGen, but contact me on Apollo first since I'm mainly on him. :)
Ok first and foremost I am not a "pro" pvp player as at this point nobody has sent me a check for a CTF score( still have my fingers crossed) however as someone who did play at end game just wanted to share some observations. At end game every time a new pack came out new gear combos and extra skill/attribute points changed things dramatically. Literally a build would hold its own one day and be obsolete the next.
What was really rare however would be to see a lower level player join a game and see a group of level cap players rush them in a 3v1 attack. However after reading this thread I logged on 8 different low level alts ( I can't stand the "T" word but I'll save that rant for a different thread") ranging from 55 down to 10.
Without fail within minutes 2-3 players 4-5 levels above the rest of the players would jump in rush kill leave and reset. Now I'll conceded, that the actions of a few do not represent the actions of many, if you are so skilled at what ever "1337" low level pvp you decided to set up shop at why wouldn't you go play at end game and not deal with these shannagins. Aside from these players jumping in to lower level games all I could find where players using only the most very basic gear and obviously still learning pvp. Again if I were "pro" and sponsored by the fnord shoe company I would think I would want to fight the best and most experienced players and that's at end game....
But that's just my 2 plat
IMO:
Both of them is hard. Using birds and mages from lv5-20 is hard. Using birds and bears from lv22-35 is not easy. For endgame birds, mages and bears are almost equal. PvP has never been easy.
I would love to see some screen shots of PVP results after all the challenges and nerd raging so we can finally get this pissing match settled.
So after my last post I decided I needed to get a feel for level 15 pvp. So I logged in on a level 10 and played 10 matches. Saw a range of levels from 12-17, for the most part they were all bears equipped with Holliday gear and used the complex strategy of max rage and a stomp now and then.
Got me thinking with two little fixes low level pvp may show the variety and strategy that end game sees:
1: scale skills,
We already see this with level 7 Skills locked until 65. Why not apply a similar example to all levels? Example 1-15 max skill level 2 16-25 skill level 3. May lead to some fights that are a little more than buff and auto attack
2: Scale damage,
I saw a lot of toons with names like "prothis" and "pvpthat" that would rush someone at a lower level and brag but when tables would be turned they would rage quit. Any easy fix would be to scale the damage by 10% per level difference. Example a level 15 attacking a level 10 would now see a 50% drop in DMg dealt while the level 10 would see a 50% bump in the DMg they could do therefore leveling the playing field and requiring a pulse to get a kill.
Thoughts?
Argument invalid. Is this a thread on a forum made for a school? No. Do you go on Pocket Legends and brag about how smart you are? No. If you have to resort to telling people how good you are at a game in proving... anything outside of this game... Then that's just bad. It goes the opposite way too. If you have to brag up something not related to PvP in a discussion/argument about PvP, something is wrong.
I am actually practicing at 66 PvP and I am doing much better than I thought I would be. I'm still pretty bad, but I'm coming for you Apollo...
It would be cool if a dev tried PvP with regular stats... I wonder if they would be any good.
Once again if you see me online, just message me and tell me you noticed my thread and wanted to fight me. I use "Imp".
C'mon now... I don't think there is anything wrong with wanting to be the best at a game, and I'm not even doing that... The OP was to get at least one person to try out low level and find out that maybe there are a few hidden game mechanics out there that they are yet to learn and master. At endgame, it's nearly impossible to see some of the small boosts and things that appear in low level...
You do realize that the "pros" at endgame were once "pros" at what are considered "twinking" levels now. A lot of the endgame pvper's wrote the book on twinking. Remember (or you may not have been around that long), you level of expertise use to be "endgame".
Kinda like an awesome little league pitcher calling out Nolan Ryan or Roger Clemmons. They've "been there, done that". Don't need a youngster asking them to prove themselves.
Well, you are close to the truth on that. Unlike most players, I was pretty much never a noob. I was introduced into the game by someone who knew it pretty well. He taught me how to do low level PvP, power leveled me to 65 on another character and gave me a perfect set of gear for twinking. So, you are close to the truth. I didn't have to "seek" any help at all. I have easily earned twice the value that was given to me when I first started, all given to the one who introduced me to the game. I never was a wimp, I simply didn't know who to and not to befriend. I don't think I am trying to appear tough, but I have picked up a few things since I've started, things many others seem to have not noticed. Perhaps you would like a 1v1? I prefer level 17, if you haven't picked up on that yet.
Honestly i been following this thread and i have to agree with this guy on some points. Its is a
Fact that there not alot talent in end game pvp. To be honest i can beat 99% archer in end game as dex or str. Vs mage prob 95% because mage do have
A advantage over birds. And bears r really non existing in end game pvp only a handful of bears pvp at a high lvl. I hope this updat will draw more people to pvp at end game. It would make it more
Competitive rather then just the handful of people who will join together when tourniment time. Usely i never want be on the so call pro team when vs a noob team it just not challenging or fun. Maybe thats why the talent in end game is bad everybody just want play when on the stronger team rather then try harder to win.