Level 55+ Capture the Flag Tournament

Ok Guys...This days have been rlly hard hehe, i have to take a desition...rlly hard desition , the match we had vs unity, i didnt think it was official,4-4, i leave game 2 times to check cs, i had 15 kills D= but ok, its only a game nd ii dont want to loose any friend, the only thing, plz dont call us "sore loosers" =) great idea nono, we can face the other eliminate team nd win antennas, as a favor sam :p rainbow anntenas will be great haha jk, but please tell me is it posible face the other eliminate team


Thanks for all, have a nice day

Guchimortal, leader -CAOS-

Nono, it says in the thread if there's no sub and someone is gone, you can fight with the people you have there. It could've been 5v4 but unity wanted a fair fight, and had me sit and ONLY played 4v4. It was a fair fight.

I also asked you a question, if you guys won, would you be asking for a rematch? Or take the win? Honest answer, you ignored by question both times I asked...

Ok ok.. About the last post , first I'm speaking for my team! And trying to make the things fair! Secondly, I never lie! All that I said was pure true! I don't understand why mikey says "I ruin ur fun" ? Cuz I'm trying to make the things moving? Seriously, the fact is that mysticaldream had nothing to do in the team match at that we did a 4vs4 (nobody said official) and in the rules it's said "a team of 5"
Moreover, as guchi said most of guys were leaving and coming
Back, lagging etc .. Wasn't serious.

Now end of the discussion about the unity vs caos ! Its not because Kelly is ur friend that u must say I lie! And btw it's her who lied about ash .. Or maybe she doesn't remember? :/

And when we said "rematch with 2 points for the other" it was because we were disappointed about the match which could have been so wonderful and which could have last more than 5 min! This is ruining the fun!

Now I don't wanna make ennemies so peace guys!

Hehe now I go to sleep 3 am starts to be late lol^^

Cya soon and plz don't speak about me only cuz I was speaking for my team and not personally!

Ty for reading and Ty fr answers ! We will have great fights next tournament ;) I hope soon cuz my team and me haven't played much if u see what I mean

BYE GUYS :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO8F7...el_video_title

Nono, nobody said it was a practice game either. You can try to find loopholes all you want, but I think in the back of your head even you knew it was the real game. I hardly know Kelly to be honest, I don't even think I have him/her added. Nothing against him/her, I just have never gotten the chance to get to know him/her, so that's not the case. I'm on the said that logical and has truth... I just don't see the point in asking for a rematch. You guys said why does it matter? You guys will win (you referring to unity) so I don't see why there's much of an argument here. Was a fair fight from what I saw. But, eh, not looking for enemies either, I just don't understand this whole thing...

Mystical ur not in unity cmon...what u win fighting here in forum? nono only tried to explain all, thanks for all bro

Oh and Sam , antenna antenna ! =)

I watched the fight, I don't care if I don't get plat or antennas (which I shouldn't) I just don't understand the need for a rematch...it was a fair fight from what I saw:)

Ugh sry I have bad read :)

I see the use of rematch for more fun and a greater fight :) now if u don't understand that :( my team would have been happy to make a good fight with more than 50 kills ..

Hehe :) cya

Samhayne could u please think about my idea? :D Ty for organizing this tournament and I hope
There will be another one!! :)

Have a great day ! :)

With all this chaos, I doubt Sam is going to host another pvp contest lol.. As I said before, there will be some team that dont have a big heart to accept losing.

I never said it does. I don't expect special treatment due to the title, nor do I want it. I said "I think", just my opinion and I'm entitled to it:) Never said you know it, I just said I think you knew it was the real fight, but I can easily be wrong. I'm not trying to come off as rude or impolite, sorry if it seems that way. I personally don't remember ever having you on my friends list, but I wasn't trying to insult you in any way. I'm not trying to make enemies, it's just my opinion on the matter, everyone's entitled to one. As I said before, I just don't understand this whole conflict but meh.

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Sorry, you edited after I posted. I'm just gonna back out of it, I was just trying to set things straight since I felt I should have say something as I was a bystander, whether I'm a member of unity or not.

Wait....

Did I read what Myst said correctly: The CAOS-Unity match was between two Unity teams? All of this arguing between guild-mates!

L M A O!!!

Ah! Peace LoL :)

Now we just have to wait The answer of samhayne about my idea of teams who lost in 2 first rounds :D

Hehe next time mystic just go to a team on the Inet ;D

Night night :) have fun and peace..

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With all this chaos, I doubt Sam is going to host another pvp contest lol.. As I said before, there will be some team that dont have a big heart to accept losing.

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No, I feel strongly that they're a lot of fun - just a lot of stuff to iron out to get them rolling.

As for people with poor sportsmanlike conduct, well, we'll just prevent them from joining future events - problem solved :)

COT B team FTW xD

Ok, so up until now I had been lucky enough to not have to deal with the inability of others to organize a small group people. As everyone knows team COT B was scheduled to fight Unity this afternoon even tho they obviously broke the rules once by having a sub/alt that wasn't even listed on there team roster play for them. So earlier this morning I logged online to arrange the meeting of our groups on the CTF field. I went to the leader of the guild Kanital and explained how 2 of my people for guild were in way different sides of the world and how we would be totally ready and willing to do battle at 5pm PST to which I was told that was no big deal and we agreed to meet back here in PL at that time. Well long story short, I arranged with my team to log on at that time and even gathered other means to communicate with them (ie: fring, skype, text, ect) to ensure we would all be here for the monumental event. Thing is we were all here and team Unity was nowhere to be found for a good 45-50min after which Kanital finally logged on. When I went to speak to him he logged off again, it was actually another 20min before he logged back in. So again I went to speak to him and ask if his team was on. He said NO, and then out of nowhere said he's leaving for 4 days and I had 2 options # 1 being we wait the 4 days till his all mighty return (which is ludacris) or #2 which was to let them find a sub for him to take his spot (the thing is they have a sub named shooterpoo) and when I told him he already had a sub his only response was " I don't know yet " what ever that means? I then explained that there was a 3rd option that was being forgotten, he and his team could forfeit the match and allow us to move on to the finals which I can honestly say he wasn't very thrilled at the notion. After a drawn out conversation he concluded the same way he started stating that he was leaving and we would fight upon his arrival in 4 days and that "Its not his problem"... which is absurd to say the least!

Sam I want to say I totally love this concept and can't wait for there to be more tourney's like this, I understand that this is a learning experience for everyone involved and hope there is a lot taken away from this. But with that said WE ALL need to be able to follow the rules aswell as know that if these rules aren't followed there will be repercussions such as disqualification from the event. Because I fully believe that should be the case here I want to push for a full disqualification due to forfeiture of match for not showing up at the mutually agreed upon time frame. We waited for 2 hrs and didn't even get the chance to win or lose .... I have to say besides feeling like I wasted not only my time I feel like I wasted the time of my team and walk away from this feeling demoralized.

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Sam,

Maybe I missed the response, from you on extending this out a few days. I have yet to hear from the team I am lined up with, due to time zone differences. I hope we can accomplish this tournament within the duration given. I have kept my team on standbye, but some of us have work tomorrow. Any insight will be greatly appreciated

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Ok, so up until now I had been lucky enough to not have to deal with the inability of others to organize a small group people. As everyone knows team COT B was scheduled to fight Unity this afternoon even tho they obviously broke the rules once by having a sub/alt that wasn't even listed on there team roster play for them. So earlier this morning I logged online to arrange the meeting of our groups on the CTF field. I went to the leader of the guild Kanital and explained how 2 of my people for guild were in way different sides of the world and how we would be totally ready and willing to do battle at 5pm PST to which I was told that was no big deal and we agreed to meet back here in PL at that time. Well long story short, I arranged with my team to log on at that time and even gathered other means to communicate with them (ie: fring, skype, text, ect) to ensure we would all be here for the monumental event. Thing is we were all here and team Unity was nowhere to be found for a good 45-50min after which Kanital finally logged on. When I went to speak to him he logged off again, it was actually another 20min before he logged back in. So again I went to speak to him and ask if his team was on. He said NO, and then out of nowhere said he's leaving for 4 days and I had 2 options # 1 being we wait the 4 days till his all mighty return (which is ludacris) or #2 which was to let them find a sub for him to take his spot (the thing is they have a sub named shooterpoo) and when I told him he already had a sub his only response was " I don't know yet " what ever that means? I then explained that there was a 3rd option that was being forgotten, he and his team could forfeit the match and allow us to move on to the finals which I can honestly say he wasn't very thrilled at the notion. After a drawn out conversation he concluded the same way he started stating that he was leaving and we would fight upon his arrival in 4 days and that "Its not his problem"... which is absurd to say the least!

Sam I want to say I totally love this concept and can't wait for there to be more tourney's like this, I understand that this is a learning experience for everyone involved and hope there is a lot taken away from this. But with that said WE ALL need to be able to follow the rules aswell as know that if these rules aren't followed there will be repercussions such as disqualification from the event. Because I fully believe that should be the case here I want to push for a full disqualification due to forfeiture of match for not showing up at the mutually agreed upon time frame. We waited for 2 hrs and didn't even get the chance to win or lose .... I have to say besides feeling like I wasted not only my time I feel like I wasted the time of my team and walk away from this feeling demoralized.

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I second this motion for a disqualification

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Originally Posted by TANKKAAR

Ok, so up until now I had been lucky enough to not have to deal with the inability of others to organize a small group people. As everyone knows team COT B was scheduled to fight Unity this afternoon even tho they obviously broke the rules once by having a sub/alt that wasn't even listed on there team roster play for them. So earlier this morning I logged online to arrange the meeting of our groups on the CTF field. I went to the leader of the guild Kanital and explained how 2 of my people for guild were in way different sides of the world and how we would be totally ready and willing to do battle at 5pm PST to which I was told that was no big deal and we agreed to meet back here in PL at that time. Well long story short, I arranged with my team to log on at that time and even gathered other means to communicate with them (ie: fring, skype, text, ect) to ensure we would all be here for the monumental event. Thing is we were all here and team Unity was nowhere to be found for a good 45-50min after which Kanital finally logged on. When I went to speak to him he logged off again, it was actually another 20min before he logged back in. So again I went to speak to him and ask if his team was on. He said NO, and then out of nowhere said he's leaving for 4 days and I had 2 options # 1 being we wait the 4 days till his all mighty return (which is ludacris) or #2 which was to let them find a sub for him to take his spot (the thing is they have a sub named shooterpoo) and when I told him he already had a sub his only response was " I don't know yet " what ever that means? I then explained that there was a 3rd option that was being forgotten, he and his team could forfeit the match and allow us to move on to the finals which I can honestly say he wasn't very thrilled at the notion. After a drawn out conversation he concluded the same way he started stating that he was leaving and we would fight upon his arrival in 4 days and that "Its not his problem"... which is absurd to say the least!

Sam I want to say I totally love this concept and can't wait for there to be more tourney's like this, I understand that this is a learning experience for everyone involved and hope there is a lot taken away from this. But with that said WE ALL need to be able to follow the rules aswell as know that if these rules aren't followed there will be repercussions such as disqualification from the event. Because I fully believe that should be the case here I want to push for a full disqualification due to forfeiture of match for not showing up at the mutually agreed upon time frame. We waited for 2 hrs and didn't even get the chance to win or lose .... I have to say besides feeling like I wasted not only my time I feel like I wasted the time of my team and walk away from this feeling demoralized.

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Although at first I was against a disqualification, I have to admit, I'm all for it now.

I was in team B, set an alarm at 2AM, just so I could be there for my buddies. And I was there, standing next to tank when Kanital logged off, and let us wait. I was really looking forward to this. I have a busy life, but see PL as a kind of a hobby of mine. I can understand that things don't always go as planned, but the way Kanital talked to us, offended me to be honest. It sounded like HE made the rules, and that we were just a bunch of noobs getting our butts kicked anyway. I don't want to go into further details, because I'm not here to flame. I'm just annoyed by the fact I lost sleep over this, while I have to get up for work early in the morning again.

Sam, I really think it's a great thing you did here. You gave us something to look forward to, while waiting for the SL and the PL update, and that's much appreciated. But, you have to step up here IMO. It can't go unpunished if a team keeps offending the rules. It's not about the punishment here, it's about the lesson people can learn from this. In real life and in sportsmanship it's also important to obey the rules. If you don't follow them you get either fired/disqualified. I don't see how that should be any different here. It's a game, yes, but this is a competition, isn't it?

This post was meant as constructive feedback, I'm sorry if it might have sounded a little harsh. I just feel people should think about other's private life before making schedules they don't follow.

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Originally Posted by TANKKAAR

Ok, so up until now I had been lucky enough to not have to deal with the inability of others to organize a small group people. As everyone knows team COT B was scheduled to fight Unity this afternoon even tho they obviously broke the rules once by having a sub/alt that wasn't even listed on there team roster play for them. So earlier this morning I logged online to arrange the meeting of our groups on the CTF field. I went to the leader of the guild Kanital and explained how 2 of my people for guild were in way different sides of the world and how we would be totally ready and willing to do battle at 5pm PST to which I was told that was no big deal and we agreed to meet back here in PL at that time. Well long story short, I arranged with my team to log on at that time and even gathered other means to communicate with them (ie: fring, skype, text, ect) to ensure we would all be here for the monumental event. Thing is we were all here and team Unity was nowhere to be found for a good 45-50min after which Kanital finally logged on. When I went to speak to him he logged off again, it was actually another 20min before he logged back in. So again I went to speak to him and ask if his team was on. He said NO, and then out of nowhere said he's leaving for 4 days and I had 2 options # 1 being we wait the 4 days till his all mighty return (which is ludacris) or #2 which was to let them find a sub for him to take his spot (the thing is they have a sub named shooterpoo) and when I told him he already had a sub his only response was " I don't know yet " what ever that means? I then explained that there was a 3rd option that was being forgotten, he and his team could forfeit the match and allow us to move on to the finals which I can honestly say he wasn't very thrilled at the notion. After a drawn out conversation he concluded the same way he started stating that he was leaving and we would fight upon his arrival in 4 days and that "Its not his problem"... which is absurd to say the least!

Sam I want to say I totally love this concept and can't wait for there to be more tourney's like this, I understand that this is a learning experience for everyone involved and hope there is a lot taken away from this. But with that said WE ALL need to be able to follow the rules aswell as know that if these rules aren't followed there will be repercussions such as disqualification from the event. Because I fully believe that should be the case here I want to push for a full disqualification due to forfeiture of match for not showing up at the mutually agreed upon time frame. We waited for 2 hrs and didn't even get the chance to win or lose .... I have to say besides feeling like I wasted not only my time I feel like I wasted the time of my team and walk away from this feeling demoralized.

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I agree. Rules are meant to be followed. If not not Sam, sadly to say, further abuse of the rules and regulations will be further taken by people, and will totally have future tourneys disfuctional if not properly fixed.

- ty

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Originally Posted by Samhayne

No, I feel strongly that they're a lot of fun - just a lot of stuff to iron out to get them rolling.

As for people with poor sportsmanlike conduct, well, we'll just prevent them from joining future events - problem solved :)

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Yeah me and my buddy had fun too. Its actually been a while for us to be able to gather, but we have a reason to now, as we all doing CTF practice and gather for the match. And im happy to fight by their side at the competition. Im sure all others team felt the same way :)

Well, thats a good solution! Hope this will teach some people what good sportmanlike.

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Originally Posted by Kanitall

Your just scared to fight us so u want us to be disqualified. End of convo. Dont even try

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Lol..?

What's funny is that I was standing there in Balefort watching the drama. Was kind of surprising, with some of the names involved :(

Hopefully it can get ironed out, and more tourneys like this can happen. Time zone issues are always going to be there, hopefully a good system can be devised.

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Originally Posted by Kanitall

Your just scared to fight us so u want us to be disqualified. End of convo. Dont even try

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Shows how serious you take this competition -.-

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Originally Posted by TANKKAAR

Ok, so up until now I had been lucky enough to not have to deal with the inability of others to organize a small group people. As everyone knows team COT B was scheduled to fight Unity this afternoon even tho they obviously broke the rules once by having a sub/alt that wasn't even listed on there team roster play for them. So earlier this morning I logged online to arrange the meeting of our groups on the CTF field. I went to the leader of the guild Kanital and explained how 2 of my people for guild were in way different sides of the world and how we would be totally ready and willing to do battle at 5pm PST to which I was told that was no big deal and we agreed to meet back here in PL at that time. Well long story short, I arranged with my team to log on at that time and even gathered other means to communicate with them (ie: fring, skype, text, ect) to ensure we would all be here for the monumental event. Thing is we were all here and team Unity was nowhere to be found for a good 45-50min after which Kanital finally logged on. When I went to speak to him he logged off again, it was actually another 20min before he logged back in. So again I went to speak to him and ask if his team was on. He said NO, and then out of nowhere said he's leaving for 4 days and I had 2 options # 1 being we wait the 4 days till his all mighty return (which is ludacris) or #2 which was to let them find a sub for him to take his spot (the thing is they have a sub named shooterpoo) and when I told him he already had a sub his only response was " I don't know yet " what ever that means? I then explained that there was a 3rd option that was being forgotten, he and his team could forfeit the match and allow us to move on to the finals which I can honestly say he wasn't very thrilled at the notion. After a drawn out conversation he concluded the same way he started stating that he was leaving and we would fight upon his arrival in 4 days and that "Its not his problem"... which is absurd to say the least!

Sam I want to say I totally love this concept and can't wait for there to be more tourney's like this, I understand that this is a learning experience for everyone involved and hope there is a lot taken away from this. But with that said WE ALL need to be able to follow the rules aswell as know that if these rules aren't followed there will be repercussions such as disqualification from the event. Because I fully believe that should be the case here I want to push for a full disqualification due to forfeiture of match for not showing up at the mutually agreed upon time frame. We waited for 2 hrs and didn't even get the chance to win or lose .... I have to say besides feeling like I wasted not only my time I feel like I wasted the time of my team and walk away from this feeling demoralized.

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+1, totally agree.

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Originally Posted by Kanitall

Your just scared to fight us so u want us to be disqualified. End of convo. Dont even try

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Unsportsmanlike conduct will not get you invited back.

Clearly, there's a lot of work to do to get these set up and working. Everyone's time is very valuable and yes, matches must be agreed upon and people show up or no-shows are disqualified.

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Originally Posted by Kanitall

Your just scared to fight us so u want us to be disqualified. End of convo. Dont even try

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Sam, we have further screen shots of him flaming tank in game. Using profound and unecessasry language. And that is exactly what I said when I read what kan said in game: "unsportsman-like and not classy"

Atleast have suggestive reasoning kan, and not go out of line with the following comment made. You were already given a chance with the illegal substitute.

But w/e, what was said was said, and it shouldn't be condoned by others for the sake of pl's future for tournaments.

http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/x...731_225105.png

Kanital, I think the true question here is..... where's your "Honor"?

Didn't want to take sides here, especially since I'm not directly involved. Though my not participating in the tourney does give me an unbiased opinion.

I have to agree with Tank's team. Like any sport, meeting, agreement, or whatever, if you agree on a time to compete and one team doesn't show, unless it was agreed upon before the set time if a no-show happened, it's an automatic DQ for the no-show group.

It's natural sportsman conduct, doesn't and shouldn't have anything to do with being scared. Tank's team did show up in the first place to compete didn't they?

Just speaking from experience, been on both sides of the coin here.

Hope it works our for the best.

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Originally Posted by Samhayne

Unsportsmanlike conduct will not get you invited back.

Clearly, there's a lot of work to do to get these set up and working. Everyone's time is very valuable and yes, matches must be agreed upon and people show up or no-shows are disqualified.

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Maybe you could make an official thread where we can arrange our times better. If 2 teams agree upon a time, you update the post with that time. This time is then absolute. You forfeit if you don't show up at that time. Now, you could make it a bit flexible so teams can reschedule 24hrs before the match or so. A link to a timezone converter might be cool too :)

If you don't have the time to put this together, with the pending releases of your new products, I'd be happy to step up and make that thread. Or you could appoint any forum member to make that thread, I'm sure most involved people wouldn't mind taking that workload off of you.

About the Unity no-show... Will these rules you mentioned be applied?

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http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/x...731_225105.png

Kanital, I think the true question here is..... where's your "Honor"?

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Gratz man you win.
Btw we never settle time idk why do you say that we didnt show.

Hey is this the right time to pull out my "Kanital being mad" screenshot collection?

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hey is this the right time to pull out my "kanital being mad" screenshot collection?

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lol :d

It is amazing to see some of the reactions based off of this tournament. But I'm even more amazed at the lack of spartsmanship for a video game. Wow

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It is amazing to see some of the reactions based off of this tournament. But I'm even more amazed at the lack of spartsmanship for a video game. Wow

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As am I... as am I :::shakes head:::

Kan, its not about winning. Its about following rules and and having good conduct. I'm all in support for Sam's idea of tournaments, making it fair for others and to show examples that shouldn't and hopefully not be tolerated over a game, which is to have fun.

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Kan, its not about winning. Its about following rules and and having good conduct. I'm all in support for Sam's idea of tournaments, making it fair for others and to show examples that shouldn't and hopefully not be tolerated over a game, which is to have fun.

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I know but why lying ? We never scheduled a time and he is saying that we didn't show.

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Originally Posted by Kanitall

I know but why lying ? We never scheduled a time and he is saying that we didn't show.

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Really Kan?? You really wanna go there? After everything else you have called me now you wanna call me a liar too?? Dude your hole just keeps getting deeper ......

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Originally Posted by Kanitall

I know but why lying ? We never scheduled a time and he is saying that we didn't show.

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Ok...can you agree you telling tank you will be gone for 4 days in game? (Going off tanks comments on recent events)

EDIT: do you agree that he also asked you about using your registered sub, shooterpoo?

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Originally Posted by TANKKAAR

Really Kan?? You really wanna go there? After everything else you have called me now you wanna call me a liar too?? Dude your hole just keeps getting deeper ......

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Wow.. We never agreed on a time..and your saying that we did..
-1 respect for you.
Prove me that you arent one.Show me the screenshot if u like em so much..

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Originally Posted by Mysticaldream

Nono, it says in the thread if there's no sub and someone is gone, you can fight with the people you have there. It could've been 5v4 but unity wanted a fair fight, and had me sit and ONLY played 4v4. It was a fair fight.

I also asked you a question, if you guys won, would you be asking for a rematch? Or take the win? Honest answer, you ignored by question both times I asked...

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myst it also says you can't use subs that are on your team as you were not on the team you should not have been there watching or not.