With regards to the rogue armor nerf
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Originally Posted by
Ardbeg
I strongly disagree.
2) Damage output of tanks is neglectable, it is mostly important for the healing output of hor, aegis or sword procs deal the real damage. (Aegis pve, sword pvp).This statement is especialky true with glintstone set.
If it is so neglectable better let stay it at 400..why 800 ? that will bring about more balance for sure..:)
The current pvp problem roots in the damage output from the lava sprouts from the dragon sword proc, not in the skill or autoattack damage. Do some tests with or without gear with a tank friend and find out. The number is misleading.
With regards to the rogue armor nerf
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Originally Posted by
Lawpvp
While i agree with your premise as for lvl 56, and i understand you said you cant comment on twinks, the main driving point behind this thread is that sts destroyed the balance of all twink levels, severely hurt the balance of pvp in endgame all for the sake of slightly and improperly trying to balance endgame pve. This still did not solve the issue of tanks being mostly unwanted in runs. I proposed possible alternatives to counterract that, and proposed other moderate changes that would buff mages at endgame, reduce the rogue armor nerf severely but still leave them slightly weaker than before the nerfs, adjust the arcane sword which im sure u admit, is absurd, aswell as fixing bugs associated with twink weapons that allow warriors to dominate those levels even more, in addition to changes to venge and jugg that would buff endgame tanks slightly in exchange for a small arcane sword nerf and bring twink warriors more in line with the other classes. This i came up with in a matter of 5 minutes before i took a shower this morning.
In addition I have developed what i believe to be one of the most complete and comprehensive arguments for why the armor nerf has hurt the state of the game, this thread now has over 3600 views and 140 comments, more than any other recent thread on these forums with the exception of those made my mods/devs. This is a clear problem given the attention its received and I have asked sts to comment on this issue seeing as how it coincidentally coincided with the release of a new arcane pet giving armor and they have remained nearly quiet.
STS PLEASE TELL US ANYTHING, are rogue alterations being considered for twinks and endgame, are they not being considered, failure to give us anything will simply result in me creating another thread until we have your attention.
As i understand it, at least Endgame pvp balance problems root in the Dragon sword proc, one single item, not a class superiority. This could be corrected. The twink level most probably needs to be looked at deeply.
However, tanks who know how to handle their aegis and antistun pets are really in high demand now. which is a good thing.
The armor of Munch mouth looks like a fishy coincidence with the nerf, but a lot of people complained after each new arcane pet there s no armor. Just saying, there s still room for a natural explanation.