Why every season other than season one and two suck.

P2W:

Before lockeds came, people farmed and worked for loot (not saying platinum buyers dont work) . We actually strived and did runs over and over again to drop loot and etc. Then all of a sudden lockeds came, at the time it seemed like a great idea, but the truth is like my friend Obee said on another post, this is becoming gambling, it would make it better with opening platinum for 15k each to open. But as of right now, I think it might be too late. :upset:


Items:

I hate how back then there was the so called "Banana Bow" that there are only... what; 5, 6? These bows dropped like copper chests and people quick sold them, what made people think selling it for 2million gold each a good idea. Although it is a cool looking bow and it's rare, why so expensive, just let it go! So if I traveled back in time and hoarded this item (back then people would call you dumb for doing so) and i would hoard them for 5months - 1 year then lets say i had 50 of em (yes,,, 50), I'm now 50million gold richer! this was the worst item back then... remember that. Then there was Crier, Hereldric, Forerunner, and Arcane Tabard. First of all; these items are worth the money, I'm not complaining, they should be 2-10mill each. But I keep thinking why there is NOTHING like this!!! Why hasnt any other season other than season 1 and 2 had this. All we get is useless ugly items that wear out fast, we had arlor vanity (platinum buy, just like every other vanity as of this day 20-35 platinum) and I wasnt there for this, but I KNOW this was amazing looking and well made, then now its 4-6mil set... WTH?!?!
Also there is Dark watch sword, this weapon I have no idea how to could have been gotten back then cuz i wasnt there, but ik it wasnt 7mil... *facepalm* my point is there is no item that was like these. Do you see any of this seasons common items that anyone can get raise to this? No! nothing will happen, only thing i have hope for is black and white jester, pets, and gilded... these MIGHT raise to 500-1mil set in the Far far far far future... IF arcane legends doesnt die out by then (I doubt A.L will die this soon). All these things damage my goals even more, you buy something thats been 5mil for 2 years, then next day drops to 500k...
I hate all these items, we should have something like this again, E.G. Take away something that people would never expect and need. (Etc dova, littlebear, but for common game, not event), makes the game more interesting...


Graphic / Looks:

I REALLY dont care much for looks and graphics, to be honest it doesnt bother me much, but it ticks me off how Steel Commando, Winters rage/fury, Purple Founder, Steel hereldric, and Red Arlor are so well graphic'd and well done. Not many pointy edges, blury render on vanity/armor, looks in general. Then I compare that to the vanities we have today; Regal/snow (LAZYYYYYYYY LAZZYYYYY VANITIES, PROBS THE MOST HATRED I HAVE AGAINST ANY VANITY ARE THESE TWO), mummy, kraken, berserker, Barbarious santa (SO BADLY MADE, BLURRY, GLITCHY, UGLY, FAKE AND DOESNT FEEL AT ALL LIKE RED ARLOR, WHY CANT WE HAVE THESE BEAUTIFUL VANITIES LIKE THIS ANYMORE?!?). Barb santa... go right now and look at the barb santa.... IT... IS...MORTIFYING... it's gltiched on the legs, the knee is dislocated which throws off the player on looking good, its blurry, the chest of the warrio shows,,, right? No, thats not a chest, that is fuzz, a.k.a badly done render on the vanity. Tsk Tsk Tsk. :grumpy:


Scam:

I feel like if these things all worked out; bringing people what they want, waht they need, what the game needs, why would there be scammers... Has anyone EVER asked Scammers why they scam...? Of course its not a good thing and they should be banned... but... why do they? I think like this, ask the enemy "WHY?" why do scammers scam people. because it's fun? because they're bad people? NO... they need to do so to continue, this game is swarmed by mean people, nice people, sketchy people, scammers, spammers, trolls, etc. and out of all of this, they need gold. Gold = Progress, if you walk around with 10k in your pocket in arcane legends, you cant do pvp, you cant do elite, cuz you'll run out of potions and you need gear, Gear = money, which scammers dont have. Rich scammers on the other hand scam because they can, but when you see a noob scamming, think to yourself "Why is he scamming?" he needs the gold. Locked? i dont think ANYONE "WANTS" to use money, they have to, or they need to. No one wants to but its a priority. And they scam because they cant get rich 50mil by farming, cuz thats just fake when people say you can make 100mil by farming, you cant... you need to merch, can you merch without gold? No. can scammers do anything? no. you give the people who need what they want? no. lockeds are what controlls arcane legends... without lockeds, either this game would be a bust, or heaven...


This is why I think this game went to *****, but its ok. Because now Sts did something good. Hope the Halloween, christmas, and arena events go well! :chuncky: :chuncky: :chuncky:

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Originally Posted by Meemaw

P2W:

Before lockeds came, people farmed and worked for loot (not saying platinum buyers dont work) . We actually strived and did runs over and over again to drop loot and etc. Then all of a sudden lockeds came, at the time it seemed like a great idea, but the truth is like my friend Obee said on another post, this is becoming gambling, it would make it better with opening platinum for 15k each to open. But as of right now, I think it might be too late. :upset:


Items:

I hate how back then there was the so called "Banana Bow" that there are only... what; 5, 6? These bows dropped like copper chests and people quick sold them, what made people think selling it for 2million gold each a good idea. Although it is a cool looking bow and it's rare, why so expensive, just let it go! So if I traveled back in time and hoarded this item (back then people would call you dumb for doing so) and i would hoard them for 5months - 1 year then lets say i had 50 of em (yes,,, 50), I'm now 50million gold richer! this was the worst item back then... remember that. Then there was Crier, Hereldric, Forerunner, and Arcane Tabard. First of all; these items are worth the money, I'm not complaining, they should be 2-10mill each. But I keep thinking why there is NOTHING like this!!! Why hasnt any other season other than season 1 and 2 had this. All we get is useless ugly items that wear out fast, we had arlor vanity (platinum buy, just like every other vanity as of this day 20-35 platinum) and I wasnt there for this, but I KNOW this was amazing looking and well made, then now its 4-6mil set... WTH?!?!
Also there is Dark watch sword, this weapon I have no idea how to could have been gotten back then cuz i wasnt there, but ik it wasnt 7mil... *facepalm* my point is there is no item that was like these. Do you see any of this seasons common items that anyone can get raise to this? No! nothing will happen, only thing i have hope for is black and white jester, pets, and gilded... these MIGHT raise to 500-1mil set in the Far far far far future... IF arcane legends doesnt die out by then (I doubt A.L will die this soon). All these things damage my goals even more, you buy something thats been 5mil for 2 years, then next day drops to 500k...
I hate all these items, we should have something like this again, E.G. Take away something that people would never expect and need. (Etc dova, littlebear, but for common game, not event), makes the game more interesting...


Graphic / Looks:

I REALLY dont care much for looks and graphics, to be honest it doesnt bother me much, but it ticks me off how Steel Commando, Winters rage/fury, Purple Founder, Steel hereldric, and Red Arlor are so well graphic'd and well done. Not many pointy edges, blury render on vanity/armor, looks in general. Then I compare that to the vanities we have today; Regal/snow (LAZYYYYYYYY LAZZYYYYY VANITIES, PROBS THE MOST HATRED I HAVE AGAINST ANY VANITY ARE THESE TWO), mummy, kraken, berserker, Barbarious santa (SO BADLY MADE, BLURRY, GLITCHY, UGLY, FAKE AND DOESNT FEEL AT ALL LIKE RED ARLOR, WHY CANT WE HAVE THESE BEAUTIFUL VANITIES LIKE THIS ANYMORE?!?). Barb santa... go right now and look at the barb santa.... IT... IS...MORTIFYING... it's gltiched on the legs, the knee is dislocated which throws off the player on looking good, its blurry, the chest of the warrio shows,,, right? No, thats not a chest, that is fuzz, a.k.a badly done render on the vanity. Tsk Tsk Tsk. :grumpy:


Scam:

I feel like if these things all worked out; bringing people what they want, waht they need, what the game needs, why would there be scammers... Has anyone EVER asked Scammers why they scam...? Of course its not a good thing and they should be banned... but... why do they? I think like this, ask the enemy "WHY?" why do scammers scam people. because it's fun? because they're bad people? NO... they need to do so to continue, this game is swarmed by mean people, nice people, sketchy people, scammers, spammers, trolls, etc. and out of all of this, they need gold. Gold = Progress, if you walk around with 10k in your pocket in arcane legends, you cant do pvp, you cant do elite, cuz you'll run out of potions and you need gear, Gear = money, which scammers dont have. Rich scammers on the other hand scam because they can, but when you see a noob scamming, think to yourself "Why is he scamming?" he needs the gold. Locked? i dont think ANYONE "WANTS" to use money, they have to, or they need to. No one wants to but its a priority. And they scam because they cant get rich 50mil by farming, cuz thats just fake when people say you can make 100mil by farming, you cant... you need to merch, can you merch without gold? No. can scammers do anything? no. you give the people who need what they want? no. lockeds are what controlls arcane legends... without lockeds, either this game would be a bust, or heaven...


This is why I think this game went to *****, but its ok. Because now Sts did something good. Hope the Halloween, christmas, and arena events go well! :chuncky: :chuncky: :chuncky:

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rare items. they are discontinued and cool looking. there arent many they are wanted. if that happened today guess what? EVERYONE WOULD HAVE ONE. so if there are a ton its worth nothing.

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Originally Posted by Saribeau

rare items. they are discontinued and cool looking. there arent many they are wanted. if that happened today guess what? EVERYONE WOULD HAVE ONE. so if there are a ton its worth nothing.

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What about banana bow? what about arlor and steel commando, thsoe 2 vanities were 25platinum -.-

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Originally Posted by Meemaw

What about banana bow? what about arlor and steel commando, thsoe 2 vanities were 25platinum -.-

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They were 25 platinum and untradable during that time. No one hoarded Steel Commando or Arlor.



Btw, I came back to edit my post.

The part of these past few seasons you are complaining about are the vanities and old veteran gear?? Have you not noticed the desolate Elite maps? Elite is dead. Fix Elite, than worry about some optional, vanities and old gear.

Those items are not necessary for endgame. So I do not consider them a good reason for the seasons "sucking"

You only scratched a small speck of the iceberg.

Iam not an old player so idk how cool were those season bt i can say this season didn't suck. Yes might be not that cool to you as season 1 & 2 were to you but clearly it didn't suck. We had so many cool and new items and events.

Im not an old player, but this season isnt too bad for my taste. Yes, people are gambling lockeds, but the farming is still there. I farm elite tarewa everyday. The best of the best may not exactly drop, but decent gear + chests (with low chances to get the best items) do drop. I used to have the same mindset that this game is all about gambling, but nah, since ive tried the hard elites i realized if i spent more time farming than complaining, i wouldve been able to buy the best gears to date.

I've been playing since s2, and from what I've seen, it's easier to make money back then instead of now. P2W is taking over AL

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Originally Posted by Ebezaanec

They were 25 platinum and untradable during that time. No one hoarded Steel Commando or Arlor.



Btw, I came back to edit my post.

The part of these past few seasons you are complaining about are the vanities and old veteran gear?? Have you not noticed the desolate Elite maps? Elite is dead. Fix Elite, than worry about some optional, vanities and old gear.

Those items are not necessary for endgame. So I do not consider them a good reason for the seasons "sucking"

You only scratched a small speck of the iceberg.

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Actually they were tradeable, I bought around 10 in the auction.

In season 4/5 I sold to various collectors..

"Banana bow"

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Originally Posted by Meemaw

What about banana bow? what about arlor and steel commando, thsoe 2 vanities were 25platinum -.-

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Originally Posted by Ebezaanec

They were 25 platinum and untradable during that time. No one hoarded Steel Commando or Arlor.



Btw, I came back to edit my post.

The part of these past few seasons you are complaining about are the vanities and old veteran gear?? Have you not noticed the desolate Elite maps? Elite is dead. Fix Elite, than worry about some optional, vanities and old gear.

Those items are not necessary for endgame. So I do not consider them a good reason for the seasons "sucking"

You only scratched a small speck of the iceberg.

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Originally Posted by Remember Me

Actually they were tradeable, I bought around 10 in the auction.

In season 4/5 I sold to various collectors..

"Banana bow"

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when they were released they were untradable until s3-4 i think. then STG made vanities tradeable.

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Originally Posted by Saribeau

when they were released they were untradable until s3-4 i think. then STG made vanities tradeable.

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They were always tradeable.... I never opened a plat chest before and managed have a some on my inv...

Most of the early AL players were former PL players. In PL, the plat purchased vanity items were never tradable. Then in season 1 & 2, the AL plat purchased vanities were also not tradable. Because of this, nobody figured they would ever be tradable, so nobody purchased more than 1 set. So when they became tradable, there was a very limited supply.

Now when they release vanities, many players buy extra sets figuring they will be worth a lot in the future. But the only way that will happen is if there is a big turnover of players in the game, and lots of new players show up who don't have these vanities.

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Originally Posted by obee

I've been playing since s2, and from what I've seen, it's easier to make money back then instead of now. P2W is taking over AL

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Obee gets my point. im not saying gameplay, im saying in looks of game and making money. Now you cant even make 4mil without useing 500+ hours of your time on A.L :/
My point is season 1 players who, sell now are rich as diamonds, but why cant season 3 ppl be , why not season 4, or 5? >:/

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Originally Posted by Energizeric

Most of the early AL players were former PL players. In PL, the plat purchased vanity items were never tradable. Then in season 1 & 2, the AL plat purchased vanities were also not tradable. Because of this, nobody figured they would ever be tradable, so nobody purchased more than 1 set. So when they became tradable, there was a very limited supply.

Now when they release vanities, many players buy extra sets figuring they will be worth a lot in the future. But the only way that will happen is if there is a big turnover of players in the game, and lots of new players show up who don't have these vanities.

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That makes sense, but what about the "Banana bow" ? why'd they remove that?!

Please stop ranting about how you can't make money. The reason why it's not like S1 and 2, because frankly, it's not S1 or 2. Indeed it was fun, but it's the past. We are getting new content and instead of complaining you could farm the fun maps to earn gold.

I'm from early in S2 and I was poor s2-s5, but this season I've made tons just farming and gemming/selling stuff. I went from "poor noob" in season 2 to "semi-rich noob" now. So stop complaining about discontinued gear that isn't coming.back, and go farm (it'll help you more than complaining) :)

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Originally Posted by Remember Me

Actually they were tradeable, I bought around 10 in the auction.

In season 4/5 I sold to various collectors..

"Banana bow"

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Vanities were not tradable when the Arlor and Steel commandos were discontinued

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Originally Posted by Meemaw

That makes sense, but what about the "Banana bow" ? why'd they remove that?!

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All bows come from locked crates and plat chests. Every season they change them up to new versions and the old ones are discontinued.

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Originally Posted by Remember Me

They were always tradeable.... I never opened a plat chest before and managed have a some on my inv...

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Vanitys were not always tradable lol.

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Originally Posted by Ebezaanec

Vanities were not tradable when the Arlor and Steel commandos were discontinued

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I was referring to weapons.

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Originally Posted by obee

I've been playing since s2, and from what I've seen, it's easier to make money back then instead of now. P2W is taking over AL

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Its not just Arcane legends. Every games are easier to make money when the game is new as the number of players happened to be less, so less hoarders and people stay unfamiliar to many tricks and values of stuffs.
When they get discontinued you can sell them higher.
When the game gets olders and for many reasons golds lose their values, people are forced to spend real money. I don't blame them, nor the stg.
Its just like real world economy.
The season didn't suck tho.

#1 AL is fairly balanced P2W/F2P. There is nothing wrong with fairness of the game.
#2 I agree with the fact the design of most vanities lately seem approximative and drawn by a elementary school student. Most of the time they are simply recycled and recoloured. It seems good ideas for vanities and armors stopped coming 1year ago and the quality of the artworks dropped due to the haste to frequently produce plat vanities.
#3 Talking about the high cost of some vanities:
a) When this vanities were released the active players were low.
b) Since the game was new few were wiling to spend cash on it ergo reducing the number of vanities bought via plat.
Less players/ Less plat farmers/ Less plat buyers = Less vanities bought related to now.


Now i wil tell you why anything newly released except on very rare occasions won't worth s*** in a life time:
a) The number of players willing to open their wallet and invest cash on AL has drastically increased due to fact the game is more balanced and seems a secure long term investment.
b) plat farm :)
When anything bought with plat is released in the store, whether its a egg or a vanity...while you are there thinking should i buy plat and hoard some, hundreds of players are busy farming plat and piling eggs and vanities on their alts.



Elites arent working.
Economy is broken.
Prices of rare items keep going up.
Prices of the basic items for making money keep dropping.
Number of plat farmers keep increasing.

Basically as the game currently is if you wanna make serious gold: Prepare to spend some hard cash on the game, scam or start plat farming.


GL.

Farming is still gambling IMO, since we don't know what we'll get
We work hard to gamble~
I'm always unlucky tho :P

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Originally Posted by Chrisaetoshawker

Farming is still gambling IMO, since we don't know what we'll get
We work hard to gamble~
I'm always unlucky tho :P

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It's not really gambling, because you always lose something when you gamble.
With farming, all you really lose is time

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Originally Posted by obee

It's not really gambling, because you always lose something when you gamble.
With farming, all you really lose is time

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Time is money~

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Originally Posted by Chrisaetoshawker

Time is money~

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Well yea true dat

Im pretty sure i cant b the only one that has 2 spend gold 2 run elites

I just hope arlors and commandos don't come back. Ever. It would cheapen the look and only the original jester would be worth something.

PL players only hoarded these cool stuffs.
yeah I was PL.player and I hoarded haha. but sold all hoarded vanity in S3 and S4.

Collecting items is part of the fun! Gives us something to merch and acquire in game.

STS has listened to the players and has instilled MANY options for F2P. You QQ over nothing.

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Originally Posted by Remember Me

They were always tradeable.... I never opened a plat chest before and managed have a some on my inv...

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Nope sir... youre wrong.. they became tradeable at s3...

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Originally Posted by Anarchist

#1 AL is fairly balanced P2W/F2P. There is nothing wrong with fairness of the game.
#2 I agree with the fact the design of most vanities lately seem approximative and drawn by a elementary school student. Most of the time they are simply recycled and recoloured. It seems good ideas for vanities and armors stopped coming 1year ago and the quality of the artworks dropped due to the haste to frequently produce plat vanities.
#3 Talking about the high cost of some vanities:
a) When this vanities were released the active players were low.
b) Since the game was new few were wiling to spend cash on it ergo reducing the number of vanities bought via plat.
Less players/ Less plat farmers/ Less plat buyers = Less vanities bought related to now.


Now i wil tell you why anything newly released except on very rare occasions won't worth s*** in a life time:
a) The number of players willing to open their wallet and invest cash on AL has drastically increased due to fact the game is more balanced and seems a secure long term investment.
b) plat farm :)
When anything bought with plat is released in the store, whether its a egg or a vanity...while you are there thinking should i buy plat and hoard some, hundreds of players are busy farming plat and piling eggs and vanities on their alts.



Elites arent working.
Economy is broken.
Prices of rare items keep going up.
Prices of the basic items for making money keep dropping.
Number of plat farmers keep increasing.

Basically as the game currently is if you wanna make serious gold: Prepare to spend some hard cash on the game, scam or start plat farming.


GL.

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I'm fine without paying, farming, or any of the above, I just got something rare for cheap and I'm set to go, I was just complaining about how game is, gameplay is much better than what it was in season 1 and 2 though. :) * p.s. I love your comment on how vanities look like they've been desighned by an elementery student XDDDDD *

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Originally Posted by Candylicks

Collecting items is part of the fun! Gives us something to merch and acquire in game.

STS has listened to the players and has instilled MANY options for F2P. You QQ over nothing.

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But now in these season we cant collect anything anymore... Only vanities.... :/