Why is lvl 71 hardcore aps for mage rog and tank part of it? I mean its an odd for those who accomplished it already granting them 1500 free aps. Personally, shoud'nt all in seasonal start from ground 0 aps? What's your thoughts?
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Why is lvl 71 hardcore aps for mage rog and tank part of it? I mean its an odd for those who accomplished it already granting them 1500 free aps. Personally, shoud'nt all in seasonal start from ground 0 aps? What's your thoughts?
u have 3 months to finish it anyways lol
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think you can Finnish all 3 of those in 3 months unless you buy plat or have people carry you
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Didnt do those aps still can be in leaderboard eventho its almost impossible to get top10
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yeahh but once you done it you have easy 1500 beginning aps pts in every season? Isn't that unfair and astray from the description of a seasonal? This hardcore aps should only apply to your main character. I mean if u have it done already the aps points will apply next season.
Nope, you only have to do once for account, then u will have those aps forever and isn't unfair, if u play hard u can even Lv to 71 three alts at same time in one 2x xp event
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explain? "seasonal" means aps are only to be get this season, how is it that aps gotten from 2 years before be include in the new season? makes sense right? I can take criticism this is a forum but be expound it and it just doesnt make sense seasonal should all start from ground 0 or should redo those hardcore aps, the done hardcore aps should not be counted.
So you are asking them to change it so that everybody has to grind another 3 hardcore mode chars to lvl71 in that particular season you run the seasonal lb to get the aps?
Yes its more fair because technically they are aps you did before that season. However, I doubt anyone likes to grind another 3 hc chars every season and thats why I give it a -1. Because fun is more important to me than strict rules.
Why not? lol you already gain advantage to it 1500 aps from your last seasons and you still want it to carry in all seasons? for 1500 early advantage. You have to work hard same as those newly started in a season that's why it is called "SEASONAL". Still nobody disputing here that seasonal should be fair and all start from ground 0. 1500 pts its a huge factor btw It doesnt really makes sense how 1500 aps done in last 2 years carry on in all seasons. This people defending it because they have it but cannot even make an argument since they know its really flawed, They are like "No" but no continuation because they really have nothing to support it. This is so unfair and fun? you guys are only benefitting from it then the new players will hold the agony of doing these aps while you even if you started anew in seasonal have the benefit of 1500 aps?
I think I know what's ur point, those hardcore aps are granted once u create new character in your account, ironically, those aps are the only ones that are Account Aps, means that every character in ur account gonna get it, so if u think it's unfair, just thought u need to have 3 hc toons every 1 toon u wanna get to lb, that's the really unfair. and the last thing, 1.5k isn't a big deal u can do once as I said in two days, normal season is about how much gold & time u spend, as u can see, there are 2 ppl who could get all aps in 3 months and indeed had it like 2-3 weeks before season ends, so why u couldn't take 2 days more for lv ur hc toons (or if u don't want force yourself too much, 1 day every 2x xp for three times), hc season is about how much time u spend (if u aren't plat user or have millions of gold to spend ofc) so don't think 4 yourself only, Also think for the community, when u learn how to lv hc toons, you will see that's annoying lv to 71 every season.
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I don’t run seasonal at all and I have to agree with op. Everyone running seasonal lb should start at 0 aps. Or just remove the 3 hc family from seasonal lb. this will be fair for all players (new and repeating seasonal runners)
You dont have to get 3 hardcore aps in every char unless you signed for a seasonal since you should then compete with others ground 0 then you have to redo the aps again same as those new players who signed in. It's easy? then why sorrow for redoing it again? If you find it hard then think of the agony of the new players. All should be fair and square in "SEASONAL" your hardwork should be same as others not this vip thing which grant you 1500 aps no sweat.
How about you just get the aps so you can stop complaining that you dont have them? Thats like complaining about APs that take gold/items to acquire, and saying people that earned the gold/items before the season are at an unfair advantage because they have said gold/item.
The APs were added(if you ask me) to keep people playing HC. It isnt going to change so i suggest you either do the HC APs or give up on it.
what aps need gold? all go in quests buddy gold can only expedite the process, thats not the same thing with 1500 free aps points when your running "SEASONAL" and mind the fact that its LB, It's like your in a racing contest then your 3 laps ahead in starting line fair right? Keep doing HC? Hows that correlate to this thread you think those who earned the aps already will still do it? since its no longer a requirement for them in seasonal?, those who will keep doing HC are the new players and the players who got the HC aps before will no longer run fair right? "SEASONAL LB" btw.
Dont deviate the topic mister, Dont try to fit a bone in the needle. Pets house, gear? It's common sense ofc you really need a decent gold also to compete you think orc set? is enough for you to compete? pets can be get to egg zavier and aps does not carry on next season, the houses? locations? you can borrow give someone a fair collateral and you can lend it. HC aps? if you wanna meddle with Seasonal then you should start fair with all. Just funny how include gold here as a leverage ofc it is.
Seasonal is a combination of
1. Hardwork in earning aps
2. Dedication
3. Resiliency
4. Gold? you can earn it along the way there a serious sequence of events that will give you, if you dont want gold be a factor then go SEASONAL HC
but 1500 aps headstart? unjustifiable
Sir, if u really think u know stuff about seasonal, better go do 1 season then back to argue (indeed I did normal and hc season 19 and that's really annoying cus at least normal one was easy asf), u asked about gold then u still arguing when have no idea how to refuting, pls stop making drama and complain with sth that it's good enough, I'm done with this, have a nice day to everyone :)
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Season 1? Haha there is no seasonal lb in season 1. Wait wait let me help you what you wanna say is "Hey dysnasty im gnarsito and I did my hardcore aps 2 years ago already and I want it to carry on in all new seasons since I have an advantage, redo? NO SIR im too lazy for that I want the new players to work hard for me and I'll just enjoy my 1500 free aps and get my easy top 10 spots thank you!" Precisely said?
Indeed I did my hc toons last season, i mean with "season 1" in running one season, also, don't misunderstand things at your favor, that's ugly to see ;) some dev @Cinco or @Remiem Close this thread Ty
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I don't have to do it again cus I won't do seasonal again xd, i want to they to close cus this is a forum for everyone express their opinion, not a debate where u refute everything cus you don't like it and as I saw you don't lose, u always won as a typical kid so is useless keep talking, you should better post that on suggestions to see if they do that, i really dc too much for me, I'm caring for community ty in advance ;)
And another thing, don't answer my comment again this start to be tedious, hope u understand ^^
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I agree that they should be removed or changed. I don't run for LB but it clearly an advantage for those players who already have their HC characters at level 71.
No you did understand me wrong. Completely wrong. In the case you want them to make it fair: everybody has to create 3 new hardcore chars in the same season you played and old ones dont count for aps. So 3 new hc chars in that particular season to make them count for seasonal. Nobody who likes grinding should have problem with that ;) removing aps seems lazy to me.
I dont see anything wrong with that since that it creates new seasonal HC players and pretty much forced too, since new seasonal players would really have to make HC characters, if they wanted to vye for the top
Why not make all players share the same burden and hardship since its seasonal to be fair it should be 0 aps start :) . Dont get me wrong your hard earned HC aps are not prejudiced since it is still a must in your main HC character/ main normal character but just not "Seasonal" since it does not fit the definition of it.
Honestly this AP is not very difficult to do and as a seasonal player myself I had the foresight to grind out my hc char APs last season. But then again each one only took a day of grinding to hit 71, on my mage I hit lvl 73 in a single day. These APs are not very difficult at all and I do think it makes sense for these APs to not be carried over from previous seasons but atm I think it is to late to implement a change as drastic as this. Ofc like you said earlier seasonal lb requires hard work and resilience so I would keep that in mind instead of complaining here on forums you could be working hard to lvl up your hc characters. Anyways cheers. And nice to see you on forums Gnarsito ;) - Atoned
The season had just started so its not too late to change, nothing drastic would really be affected just that this season is more fair,
Those who have the HC aps will have to redo same as others and I dont see anything wrong with that. I agree that aps are achievable but it should not be an excuse that others can play with headstart and advantage. The point is all should share the same hardwork in a seasonal, no headstart.
Less complaining more grinding ;)
If you knew about this you could plan in advance lmao, like I said "less complaining more grinding"
If u think the 71 apps are the problem you're ignoring the fact that there are many advantages plat offers the seasonal.
If I res my hc it has many seasonal advantages due to plat, I have heroic & arcane pets, crafted ebon vanity, 150-200 pet apps, + idk how many other apps would carry.
Question is should all plat based advantages be allowed in seasonal?
Allow plat = not fair for ftp.
Vs
don't allow plat advantage & sts has less reason to even allow this game feature.
If someone uses plat to level during the season, what reason should they not benefit as if helps the game over all?
Just some thoughts
I have no problem with HC seasonal and yeah I heard there are minor issues there like locations to be purchase by plats but all can be achieved by f2p imo there are designated events for those egg zavier to name one. The dillema here is that players getting 1500 aps headstart every new season.
I'm responding because I find this topic amusing. As a new seasonal lb runner who appears to be new to forums as well, asking to change something that has been In the game for a while because it is not to your advantage to make top 10 or 25 on lb seems quite childish. And yes I see others saying this is a good idea but I disagree with this idead and since this is a public forum I am allowed to post and say my opinion on topics like this so that's another reason I'm responding. Is it fair that I have 25 arcane and 75 hero pets before season start? or all materials for glint set and enough points for dark apostle rank? Is that also unfair for you "new" seasonal players? Should we all just start with 0 gold and no equips and not be able to transfer stuff from our other characters?
Though this forum account is fresh I'm not new. Im not asking for advantage I'm asking for fairness as you see phrase alone "1500 headstart points for all seasons" very iniquitous and unfair, the goal of the seasonal lb is to gather as much aps as possible within a season, how come aps from prior season are carried over?. Pets? I mentioned it several times already in this thread that there are specific events for those, materials and etc. those are to be acquired toiling or monetarily and lastly ofc gold is a factor if you have much gold you can expedite aps and its pretty normal and fine since this account if you wanted can be bound to be your main account. This is becoming monotonous I said enough just reiterating, It's for the Arlorians to read and Devs thank you.
You do realise some of em worked real hard and took em months to get those aps , whereas you’re assuming they got the aps the easy way, to some extent, some players might’ve found em easy and done those aps within weeks , but for a lot of ppl, they’ve taken out their time to do hardcore everyday just to achieve those aps.