A New System

Hi,

This is very unnecessary, may cause inflation, but I might as well share. Just share some thoughts, don't take this seriously.... Not a matter of +1 or - 1, just wanna hear your thoughts.

Was thinking how closely AL resembles real life in some aspects. Farmers = Workers, Merchant = Entrepreneurs, Hoarders = Investors/Stock Brokers

How people take a loan from bank, players may be able to take loan from the system.

Debt system: Players can take debt from the game....

Players will have to earn Trust Points.

1) By capping.
2) Having high PvE scores.
3) Having an old account.
4) Having purchased plats with irl money
5) Daily Log in
6) Running maps frequently
7) Chat time.
8) Being favorited by other players in their friend list.
9) Having Arcane Gears (Unequipping will lower the trust points)

Basically anything that allows the system to determine whether the player values their account

The more trust point you have, the more gold you can borrow: 5m/10m/15m

4 weeks time to pay back the gold, after which your account goes in red zone.

All items received by the player will be held by the system including gold.

After 8 weeks, the account will be perma-banned....

Cheers.



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Was all good until perma ban, cuz there might be times where players come across unexpected situations and unable to login for a period of time

Lol rofl lol rofl lol. Just like a bunch of locked houses when STS charged us rent. Nothing but closed accounts cuz kids can’t control their urges to spend! :p “Trust me”

Artificial numbers to represent how trustworthy you are? No thanks.
Only times ive lent our gave people a loan is when i have good experiences with that person or know them very well.
This is the way it should be in my opinion, i dont need artificially exploitative numbers telling me how trustworthy i am.
To each their own i suppose, in the end if you cant afford something then save up till you can, youre gonna have to pay for it regardless

Capping account? Sure, something that can be done in a week with some good effort, doesnt really sounds watertight to me

Pve scores? Guess botting hauntlet is coming back.

Having an old acc says nothing in 90% of the cases, i have a few emails with accounts dating back to 2013 and 2014, totally clean accounts who would get favor points by the system for no reason

Purchasing plat is a double edged sword, and doesnt mean someone will value their account at all.
What i would do if i was a scammer, just buy 1.7k plat on an acc, buy ... with it and transfer it to my main acc, free trust points = free gold to scam from your system

Daily login once again doesnt make an account any more valuable nor is it hard to do this in mass

Running maps frequently adds onto #2, hitting 2 birds with one stone

Also why should unequipping gear result in -points? Basically means no gl gear, no glintstone set, no upgrading gear, no switching gear etc etc

Chat time very easily exploitable aswell, and so is being favorited.

Basically, the only way your account should become more valuable in the eyes of the system is vanities and gear, bonus points for leaderboard items.
Upon loaning all account items should be locked,
Other option would be account values should be measured upon trying to loan, giving points to each individual item that would be locked.
This alone would disencourage 99% of the people from loaning in the first place, as it renders your account pretty much frozen.

Long story short, work for ya shet

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Originally Posted by Spooked

Artificial numbers to represent how trustworthy you are? No thanks.
Only times ive lent our gave people a loan is when i have good experiences with that person or know them very well.
This is the way it should be in my opinion, i dont need artificially exploitative numbers telling me how trustworthy i am.
To each their own i suppose, in the end if you cant afford something then save up till you can, youre gonna have to pay for it regardless

Capping account? Sure, something that can be done in a week with some good effort, doesnt really sounds watertight to me

Pve scores? Guess botting hauntlet is coming back.

Having an old acc says nothing in 90% of the cases, i have a few emails with accounts dating back to 2013 and 2014, totally clean accounts who would get favor points by the system for no reason

Purchasing plat is a double edged sword, and doesnt mean someone will value their account at all.
What i would do if i was a scammer, just buy 1.7k plat on an acc, buy ... with it and transfer it to my main acc, free trust points = free gold to scam from your system

Daily login once again doesnt make an account any more valuable nor is it hard to do this in mass

Running maps frequently adds onto #2, hitting 2 birds with one stone

Also why should unequipping gear result in -points? Basically means no gl gear, no glintstone set, no upgrading gear, no switching gear etc etc

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Hmm, it could be having arcane gears in inventory atleast at all times.

Just a way a system can know that thier account is worth to them more than the gold they borrowed.

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No. Would be too many bans for those unable to pay back.
Trust isn't something you gain by having stuff its earned by being very close to people. You really have to know the person's personality before you lend to them. Things I judge by: Way they chat, Age, How often do I speak to them, How long have I known them, If they are friends with my close friends, History with them.
Don't do trust tests ever. If someone asks for a trust test just leave them.
Maybe about 40 people I know I can trust atm.
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Originally Posted by Spooked

Artificial numbers to represent how trustworthy you are? No thanks.
Only times ive lent our gave people a loan is when i have good experiences with that person or know them very well.
This is the way it should be in my opinion, i dont need artificially exploitative numbers telling me how trustworthy i am.
To each their own i suppose, in the end if you cant afford something then save up till you can, youre gonna have to pay for it regardless

Capping account? Sure, something that can be done in a week with some good effort, doesnt really sounds watertight to me

Pve scores? Guess botting hauntlet is coming back.

Having an old acc says nothing in 90% of the cases, i have a few emails with accounts dating back to 2013 and 2014, totally clean accounts who would get favor points by the system for no reason

Purchasing plat is a double edged sword, and doesnt mean someone will value their account at all.
What i would do if i was a scammer, just buy 1.7k plat on an acc, buy ... with it and transfer it to my main acc, free trust points = free gold to scam from your system

Daily login once again doesnt make an account any more valuable nor is it hard to do this in mass

Running maps frequently adds onto #2, hitting 2 birds with one stone

Also why should unequipping gear result in -points? Basically means no gl gear, no glintstone set, no upgrading gear, no switching gear etc etc

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He tried to share his opinion and it looks pretty good and pls stop saying fully negative stuff about new ideas as u cant think or will never do anything to help the community here ..

I think all the bad things that u have told u are still doing and trying it. Scammer ,botting?????? All seems like a perfect synonym for ur Attitude and mindset...

Dont pollute the forum with ur toxic comments in the case you want to post such stuff u can private dm him or as usual tell something here and het ignored as the community knows the type of person u are ...

No personal vendetta but its sad u always come up with bad comments when new ideas are shared .....

-FA

Nononooo.. not needed at all

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Yeah +1

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Originally Posted by Lookupnabs

He tried to share his opinion and it looks pretty good and pls stop saying fully negative stuff about new ideas as u cant think or will never do anything to help the community here ..

I think all the bad things that u have told u are still doing and trying it. Scammer ,botting?????? All seems like a perfect synonym for ur Attitude and mindset...

Dont pollute the forum with ur toxic comments in the case you want to post such stuff u can private dm him or as usual tell something here and het ignored as the community knows the type of person u are ...

No personal vendetta but its sad u always come up with bad comments when new ideas are shared .....

-FA

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I am so utterly confused right now.
He asked for feedback and i gave my view on it..
If you think its a good idea why dont YOU make some sound arguments? Your reply is totally uncalled for and out of place.
Its absolutely mind boggling, i dont see how this idea of his can be for the better of the community, although i gave him my opinion and i gave him some ideas to add ontop of it incase others do find it a good idea, then you come in here not even speaking upon the OP's initial post criticizing me for basicallu giving my opinion?
Basically according to you unless its positive feedback i shouldnt post at all, doesnt sound like what forums are made for if you ask me

Reading back on your post i see you hinting at me being a scammer? Would you like to tell that to the people who have lent me hundreds of millions? - and have obviously gotten it back.
Interesting to say the least but lets see if you can defend that point you made because that sounds alot like slander to me

I won't give a -1 because you said no +/-1s, but this idea is not good at all.

People build trust in other ways, not with some AI score. Risking a permanent ban for not paying back in time is also a terrible idea.

If you have friends that really trust you, you can just ask them for a loan.

LOL!


I usually just get my pimp hand-prepared by using talcum powder to be ready to slap the gold out my members backsides... works a charm...


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Originally Posted by Utilise again

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Smb just tried to do your job xD

Terrible idea


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I’m sorry but this idea is ludicrous. Farm or purchase plat

I like the idea of having an Arlorian Bank, but I don’t like any of the conditions you proposed.

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Originally Posted by Spooked

I am so utterly confused right now.
He asked for feedback and i gave my view on it..
If you think its a good idea why dont YOU make some sound arguments? Your reply is totally uncalled for and out of place.
Its absolutely mind boggling, i dont see how this idea of his can be for the better of the community, although i gave him my opinion and i gave him some ideas to add ontop of it incase others do find it a good idea, then you come in here not even speaking upon the OP's initial post criticizing me for basicallu giving my opinion?
Basically according to you unless its positive feedback i shouldnt post at all, doesnt sound like what forums are made for if you ask me

Reading back on your post i see you hinting at me being a scammer? Would you like to tell that to the people who have lent me hundreds of millions? - and have obviously gotten it back.
Interesting to say the least but lets see if you can defend that point you made because that sounds alot like slander to me

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Always negative will ruin the future of AL try to appreciate the idea first and then share your views , all your threds are negative and will kill further ideas

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Originally Posted by Spooked

Artificial numbers to represent how trustworthy you are? No thanks.
Only times ive lent our gave people a loan is when i have good experiences with that person or know them very well.
This is the way it should be in my opinion, i dont need artificially exploitative numbers telling me how trustworthy i am.
To each their own i suppose, in the end if you cant afford something then save up till you can, youre gonna have to pay for it regardless

Capping account? Sure, something that can be done in a week with some good effort, doesnt really sounds watertight to me

Pve scores? Guess botting hauntlet is coming back.

Having an old acc says nothing in 90% of the cases, i have a few emails with accounts dating back to 2013 and 2014, totally clean accounts who would get favor points by the system for no reason

Purchasing plat is a double edged sword, and doesnt mean someone will value their account at all.
What i would do if i was a scammer, just buy 1.7k plat on an acc, buy ... with it and transfer it to my main acc, free trust points = free gold to scam from your system

Daily login once again doesnt make an account any more valuable nor is it hard to do this in mass

Running maps frequently adds onto #2, hitting 2 birds with one stone

Also why should unequipping gear result in -points? Basically means no gl gear, no glintstone set, no upgrading gear, no switching gear etc etc

Chat time very easily exploitable aswell, and so is being favorited.

Basically, the only way your account should become more valuable in the eyes of the system is vanities and gear, bonus points for leaderboard items.
Upon loaning all account items should be locked,
Other option would be account values should be measured upon trying to loan, giving points to each individual item that would be locked.
This alone would disencourage 99% of the people from loaning in the first place, as it renders your account pretty much frozen.

Long story short, work for ya shet

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Well, you considered every aspects but All that trouble for just 15m lol .
( Not efficient ) - no one will do that.
I recommend instead of players being banned , they must pay in small amounts i.e gold being taken automatically from stash or inventory .
And the other thing this loan system must be guild based like only recuiters / officers can loan . And to become a guild that can loan they must put a certain criteria
It would be more consistent .
Guild funds can be introduced .
If you put you gold in guild fund you'll get some interest as well.( Banking system ).
No need to criticize it's not gonnaa happen anyways so just chill its for fun.

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Originally Posted by namansharma99910

Well, you considered every aspects but All that trouble for just 15m lol .
( Not efficient ) - no one will do that.
I recommend instead of players being banned , they must pay in small amounts i.e gold being taken automatically from stash or inventory .
And the other thing this loan system must be guild based like only recuiters / officers can loan . And to become a guild that can loan they must put a certain criteria
It would be more consistent .
Guild funds can be introduced .
If you put you gold in guild fund you'll get some interest as well.( Banking system ).
No need to criticize it's not gonnaa happen anyways so just chill its for fun.

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See now here is actually an interesting idea, a guild bank/stash of sorts.

The idea of having say certain ranks in guild only be accessible is good start a gym being able to select which ranks could make use of the bank/stash.

Having start with say a stash that’s shared, when a member deposits an items into stash, it automatically hearts it so it cannot be sold or traded etc only used, also just like have a guild log for people who come and go, have a similar log attached to stash so you can see who deposited what items and also who was the last person to withdraw it, only the original owner of items would be unable to heart the gears so they could take out of the guild stash and sell if still wanted to.

Having a monetary system for guild would indeed be difficult with borrowing and returning etc,

So a good alternative would be that the potions sold via guild hall to members, if the gold made from that could go into a guild pot instead of just being Burnt like it currently does, that guild pot however whilst it accumulates gold, the collected gold however can only be used by a GM and only for purchasing furniture for the guild hall from a vendor.

That way it takes the worry away that a guild master would run off with the gold or use it for their own benefit. Money collected by guild members can only be spent on guild furniture for everyone to enjoy and benefit from... the gold gets burnt anyways so why not make more of an incentive to use the potion vendors in guild halls along with a good reason for people to decorate guild halls like they do houses.

Of course if the guild gets deleted then all I teams bought with guild fund would be lost as well but that would be your best bet for having like a sort of banking system in game.

1<3

People have accounts from last 4-5 year old they will j have 3-4 my self lol
What they will do transfer items and get rhe most trust points and get loan and transfer back all item to their mains. And let them ban account.
Its useless bro
And will break the hame cause the item which is costing 1 m right now will start costing 10m in a week because of this.
So dont be offended but
-1 from my side


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Originally Posted by namansharma99910

Well, you considered every aspects but All that trouble for just 15m lol .
( Not efficient ) - no one will do that.
I recommend instead of players being banned , they must pay in small amounts i.e gold being taken automatically from stash or inventory .
And the other thing this loan system must be guild based like only recuiters / officers can loan . And to become a guild that can loan they must put a certain criteria
It would be more consistent .
Guild funds can be introduced .
If you put you gold in guild fund you'll get some interest as well.( Banking system ).
No need to criticize it's not gonnaa happen anyways so just chill its for fun.

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Its indeed a good idea, but adding a system that automatically takes gold isnt very safe.
Most scammers abandon their accounts after a big heist so the system will have nothing to take.
With games like these there will always be abusers of the system
A bank is a fun idea but in the end if someone ends up not paying their debt they run off with the money others deposited in good faith, even officers arent impervious to being scammers.
I would rather urge sts to put set punishments on scamming and acting when proper proof is delivered, consistently.




And to lookupnabs: the one starting the negativity here was you, not me.
Now get your justice boner out of my face its a feedback thread not an echochamber.

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Originally Posted by Spooked

Its indeed a good idea, but adding a system that automatically takes gold isnt very safe.
Most scammers abandon their accounts after a big heist so the system will have nothing to take.
With games like these there will always be abusers of the system
A bank is a fun idea but in the end if someone ends up not paying their debt they run off with the money others deposited in good faith, even officers arent impervious to being scammers.
I would rather urge sts to put set punishments on scamming and acting when proper proof is delivered, consistently.




And to lookupnabs: the one starting the negativity here was you, not me.
Now get your justice boner out of my face its a feedback thread not an echochamber.

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If u have over 100k PvE, and the account is very old, abandoning the account for 15m gold isn't very smart tho

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Originally Posted by umarrahim

If u have over 100k PvE, and the account is very old, abandoning the account for 15m gold isn't very smart tho

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Thats true to some extent, but im sure there are plenty of people who would choose 15M over some pve stats and account age