what is the difficulty?

Many have criticized me for asking for difficulty in the game and others complain because they die easily, here I will tell you what the main problem with this is, the difficulty goes up and down in seconds... we see this every day, without processes we are cockroaches, but with processes we kill everything just by passing by the enemies, both cases are wrong, the difficulty is not in receiving 1 fatal attack without being a fatal attack for example... the mausoleum magician does not hit hard but his attack special was to cause the same death, the current case is... the enemies hit hard because they are destined to withstand you with the processes of strong weapons, the problem now is that the benefit of weapons and other weapons make you overcome the difficulty that this intended to withstand the enemy by making them the cockroach and not us, to have a balance in the game we need enemies with unique abilities and hard to kill but they cannot kill you equally easily, we need to play with weapons capable of creating benefits without strongly harm the player's statistics, we are at a limit where the developers are already obliged to impress us with an extra benefit so that we buy that weapon, I think it is normal that they do this for that reason but there really are a thousand ways to generate money without harming the weaponry of the game, for example creating an elite or super elite version of the weaponry, which gives a little more main statistics to be a little stronger... not breaking the game, just feeling the strength without having an exaggeratedly large benefit, Along with this, obviously visual improvements to attract attention, also having many gems in the game with benefits for everything and so we all put together our personalized set with X gems for X usefulness, it is not difficult to combat this, just make the weapons weaker and everything Whatever they get from now on, the game does not need statistical multiplication, it needs balance on both sides

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Originally Posted by Activista

Many have criticized me for asking for difficulty in the game and others complain because they die easily, here I will tell you what the main problem with this is, the difficulty goes up and down in seconds... we see this every day, without processes we are cockroaches, but with processes we kill everything just by passing by the enemies, both cases are wrong, the difficulty is not in receiving 1 fatal attack without being a fatal attack for example... the mausoleum magician does not hit hard but his attack special was to cause the same death, the current case is... the enemies hit hard because they are destined to withstand you with the processes of strong weapons, the problem now is that the benefit of weapons and other weapons make you overcome the difficulty that this intended to withstand the enemy by making them the cockroach and not us, to have a balance in the game we need enemies with unique abilities and hard to kill but they cannot kill you equally easily, we need to play with weapons capable of creating benefits without strongly harm the player's statistics, we are at a limit where the developers are already obliged to impress us with an extra benefit so that we buy that weapon, I think it is normal that they do this for that reason but there really are a thousand ways to generate money without harming the weaponry of the game, for example creating an elite or super elite version of the weaponry, which gives a little more main statistics to be a little stronger... not breaking the game, just feeling the strength without having an exaggeratedly large benefit, Along with this, obviously visual improvements to attract attention, also having many gems in the game with benefits for everything and so we all put together our personalized set with X gems for X usefulness, it is not difficult to combat this, just make the weapons weaker and everything Whatever they get from now on, the game does not need statistical multiplication, it needs balance on both sides

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I think that the issue of how new players would be able to get enough gold to purchase decent gears should be addressed before something like that could be implemented.
They are struggling to afford almost everything nowadays and that's because there is nothing to loot from maps and the events aren't very forthcoming when it comes to purchasing things from the vendor that's tradeable.
The current event has been ok for selling eggs but that's short-lived.
The balance we did have between free to play and pay to play has been tipped in the favour of pay to play. I use the word "play" loosely as I don't see as many people playing and that is because of the decisions made by the developers. Sorry Devs but it's true, it's done now and I do realise that decisions weren't made in haste and there had to be a good reason otherwise you wouldn't have made them.
So you see, your ideas aren't going down well because new players are unhappy and some are resentful because they can't afford to purchase plat to get on in the game, they become apathetic and leave.
I spend a lot of my time helping but even then they don't stay.
How many players regularly run the woods?
It's still a good game and I do like the fact that lower levels are getting some encouragement lately. I like playing lower level characters for the difficulty and nostalgia. It would be even better if lower levels would team up and try getting through places like maus and all the other maps made for their level without asking to be carried by high levels. Let's face it, we can't keep blaming the developers for new players being too lazy to try. We had to do all the maps without some super strong player carrying us through.
I've just talked myself into realising that new players have it a lot easier now.🤔

Maybe we'll get a truly challenging forest map, when they add elite forest. I hope, that they realize kraken cannot be strong enough to easily kill mobs there, if they wanna sell us new arcanes.
Maybe we even get a similar situation with sb set, as with zaarus set, where the price will drop to a point, where it becomes affordable.

True but sts is too far gone. Ebon weapons were the last op gear but not insanely op. Then 76 Arcs came and everything became hotbars procs. If they remove this all the players who bought and invested in op gear will cry. Why revert? All they need to do is in next expansion nerf and balance. That's it. Too much op Arcane gear. Why even have legend or epic or common gear? If it's basically useless having full legend gear in 86 new map or even in 81 map. In the past you could solo bosses with legend gear, although it takes time it was actually possible with Devour weapon in shuyal. Like rem's philosophy in an old sts vid it's all about balance. Now skills are useless. All you need is kraken and proc and hot bar.

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Originally Posted by Susanne

I think that the issue of how new players would be able to get enough gold to purchase decent gears should be addressed before something like that could be implemented.
They are struggling to afford almost everything nowadays and that's because there is nothing to loot from maps and the events aren't very forthcoming when it comes to purchasing things from the vendor that's tradeable.
The current event has been ok for selling eggs but that's short-lived.
The balance we did have between free to play and pay to play has been tipped in the favour of pay to play. I use the word "play" loosely as I don't see as many people playing and that is because of the decisions made by the developers. Sorry Devs but it's true, it's done now and I do realise that decisions weren't made in haste and there had to be a good reason otherwise you wouldn't have made them.
So you see, your ideas aren't going down well because new players are unhappy and some are resentful because they can't afford to purchase plat to get on in the game, they become apathetic and leave.
I spend a lot of my time helping but even then they don't stay.
How many players regularly run the woods?
It's still a good game and I do like the fact that lower levels are getting some encouragement lately. I like playing lower level characters for the difficulty and nostalgia. It would be even better if lower levels would team up and try getting through places like maus and all the other maps made for their level without asking to be carried by high levels. Let's face it, we can't keep blaming the developers for new players being too lazy to try. We had to do all the maps without some super strong player carrying us through.
I've just talked myself into realising that new players have it a lot easier now.🤔

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New players are luckier than us because nowadays they help more than before but... they must also suffer what we suffer, there are more questions than personal effort to know something, they have become very vague lately

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Originally Posted by Leebazhafe

True but sts is too far gone. Ebon weapons were the last op gear but not insanely op. Then 76 Arcs came and everything became hotbars procs. If they remove this all the players who bought and invested in op gear will cry. Why revert? All they need to do is in next expansion nerf and balance. That's it. Too much op Arcane gear. Why even have legend or epic or common gear? If it's basically useless having full legend gear in 86 new map or even in 81 map. In the past you could solo bosses with legend gear, although it takes time it was actually possible with Devour weapon in shuyal. Like rem's philosophy in an old sts vid it's all about balance. Now skills are useless. All you need is kraken and proc and hot bar.

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Useless weapons were made because the current arcane is baptized as the strongest and by far, that is why it loses value almost instantly, they are just waiting for the arcane equipment to take things seriously, I have seen it a lot in these expansions, they called me many times ways to ask for nerf to kraken but I know I'm right, those weapons are very exaggerated

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Originally Posted by Leebazhafe

True but sts is too far gone. Ebon weapons were the last op gear but not insanely op. Then 76 Arcs came and everything became hotbars procs. If they remove this all the players who bought and invested in op gear will cry. Why revert? All they need to do is in next expansion nerf and balance. That's it. Too much op Arcane gear. Why even have legend or epic or common gear? If it's basically useless having full legend gear in 86 new map or even in 81 map. In the past you could solo bosses with legend gear, although it takes time it was actually possible with Devour weapon in shuyal. Like rem's philosophy in an old sts vid it's all about balance. Now skills are useless. All you need is kraken and proc and hot bar.

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Oh this is so true. Legendary gears back then were useful. I have hotbars but I don't use them for gears. I use mine for lixes and pets.
Only time I used mine was to switch from pisces to Mari.
Yes I remember using my legendary gears in elite maps and even when Maus first came about. It's the reason why I have so many deaths on my main. That's the problem too, people spend too much time looking at your kdr and calling you out if you have a lot of deaths.
Well they should try planar tombs in their level 40s or elite shuyal with the gears we had and the pets weren't as powerful. Strategy and skills were used then.

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Oh this is so true. Legendary gears back then were useful. I have hotbars but I don't use them for gears. I use mine for lixes and pets.
Only time I used mine was to switch from pisces to Mari.
Yes I remember using my legendary gears in elite maps and even when Maus first came about. It's the reason why I have so many deaths on my main. That's the problem too, people spend too much time looking at your kdr and calling you out if you have a lot of deaths.
Well they should try planar tombs in their level 40s or elite shuyal with the gears we had and the pets weren't as powerful. Strategy and skills were used then.

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strategies that no longer exist, that's the bad thing about the current era, it's just activating weapons and that's it, everything around you dies

I personally like the way of using gear procs then switch gear for higher damage etc that brings game more strategy in terms of gameplay but...

That requires a pretty well balancing around them and this is where STS failed at it.

So let's talk about kraken sword/gun/bow those 3 weapons got a 75% armor reduce on proc I mean what? And they been designing bosses based on that gear+dps combo which means you need that certain gear to achieve something in the game. There is no other alternatives but aren't new players supposed to be able to farm something without needing that OP gear (cause as you know you literally need a lot gold for that kind of gear) or help to make progress in game?

New players can't do anything when they are at like fester due to lack of gear then when they are finally at 71 there is a xp quest shows up to kill elite bosses? They can't even kill the normal mobs in fester so how come we got here lol.

Long story short starting from festerfang gameplay must be redesigned for new players with new gear and stuff and as second these overloaded procs should stop it doesn't bring a better gameplay at all.

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Originally Posted by Squlo

I personally like the way of using gear procs then switch gear for higher damage etc that brings game more strategy in terms of gameplay but...

That requires a pretty well balancing around them and this is where STS failed at it.

So let's talk about kraken sword/gun/bow those 3 weapons got a 75% armor reduce on proc I mean what? And they been designing bosses based on that gear+dps combo which means you need that certain gear to achieve something in the game. There is no other alternatives but aren't new players supposed to be able to farm something without needing that OP gear (cause as you know you literally need a lot gold for that kind of gear) or help to make progress in game?

New players can't do anything when they are at like fester due to lack of gear then when they are finally at 71 there is a xp quest shows up to kill elite bosses? They can't even kill the normal mobs in fester so how come we got here lol.

Long story short starting from festerfang gameplay must be redesigned for new players with new gear and stuff and as second these overloaded procs should stop it doesn't bring a better gameplay at all.

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It's like I said, hahaha, the enemies are designed to withstand an arcane process, but the weapons are designed to crush those enemies far above what they should, that is, the balance of stability moves a lot in seconds, before and after having a process. of weapons, they need to nerf the weapons to have better monetary access to buy, they are expensive due to their over-exaggerated strength, this expansion everyone can play elderwood with previous arcane, that should not be like that, some do not even feel the urge to buy the new weapons or the amulet, nor is it necessary

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Originally Posted by Activista

Many have criticized me for asking for difficulty in the game and others complain because they die easily, here I will tell you what the main problem with this is, the difficulty goes up and down in seconds... we see this every day, without processes we are cockroaches, but with processes we kill everything just by passing by the enemies, both cases are wrong, the difficulty is not in receiving 1 fatal attack without being a fatal attack for example... the mausoleum magician does not hit hard but his attack special was to cause the same death, the current case is... the enemies hit hard because they are destined to withstand you with the processes of strong weapons, the problem now is that the benefit of weapons and other weapons make you overcome the difficulty that this intended to withstand the enemy by making them the cockroach and not us, to have a balance in the game we need enemies with unique abilities and hard to kill but they cannot kill you equally easily, we need to play with weapons capable of creating benefits without strongly harm the player's statistics, we are at a limit where the developers are already obliged to impress us with an extra benefit so that we buy that weapon, I think it is normal that they do this for that reason but there really are a thousand ways to generate money without harming the weaponry of the game, for example creating an elite or super elite version of the weaponry, which gives a little more main statistics to be a little stronger... not breaking the game, just feeling the strength without having an exaggeratedly large benefit, Along with this, obviously visual improvements to attract attention, also having many gems in the game with benefits for everything and so we all put together our personalized set with X gems for X usefulness, it is not difficult to combat this, just make the weapons weaker and everything Whatever they get from now on, the game does not need statistical multiplication, it needs balance on both sides

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That’s an issue I adressed many times.

You do no damage without proc because the ennemies have enormous amount of health and skills do not do enough damage.

But with procs on you turn the game on easy mode. You just run on everything.

Moreover the awaks in % are just broken.

I totally agree with you. They should make proc weaker. Ennemies weaker too with better abilities. And mostly remove damage multiplier procs or just nerf then to a really low number like 30% max would’ve been cooler to play.

Moreover they should make the itemisation progression smoother. It’s too drastic to pass from 1%stat to 8%stat with full flawless boosted by damage multiplier procs.


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That’s an issue I adressed many times.

You do no damage without proc because the ennemies have enormous amount of health and skills do not do enough damage.

But with procs on you turn the game on easy mode. You just run on everything.

Moreover the awaks in % are just broken.

I totally agree with you. They should make proc weaker. Ennemies weaker too with better abilities. And mostly remove damage multiplier procs or just nerf then to a really low number like 30% max would’ve been cooler to play.

Moreover they should make the itemisation progression smoother. It’s too drastic to pass from 1%stat to 8%stat with full flawless boosted by damage multiplier procs.


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The percentages of statistics are very complex, a long time ago I saw how much the percentage affected 1 player, and the change is exaggerated considering the multiplications of statistics, I think they should lower the drop percentage of "X" enchantment, or reduce the existing maximum, I feel That in the next expansion that will be very exaggerated (imagining that they continue adding multiplications of statistics)

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It's like I said, hahaha, the enemies are designed to withstand an arcane process, but the weapons are designed to crush those enemies far above what they should, that is, the balance of stability moves a lot in seconds, before and after having a process. of weapons, they need to nerf the weapons to have better monetary access to buy, they are expensive due to their over-exaggerated strength, this expansion everyone can play elderwood with previous arcane, that should not be like that, some do not even feel the urge to buy the new weapons or the amulet, nor is it necessary

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it is not necessary cause as I called it we got the 75% armor reduce on proc anyways so who cares xD new weapons and stuff not capable of doing that even if they got way higher stats compared to older ones.

Here I can address some needed nerfs actually:

Krak bow/gun/sword 75% armor reduce on opponent GIGABROKEN

Krak armor x3 damage multiplier TOO BROKEN (idk why an armor gives x3 dmg as well but w/e)

Star beast amulet x2 damage multiplier and 200% armor TOO BROKEN as well considering we got way more stats on star beast sets this one is going to cause trouble in the future.

Edit: I can't talk of new star beast weapons since haven't seen them on the work properly but their stats seem broken as well just hiding on the shadow under the kraken gear.

So maybe then you can have a decent gameplay which is im hoping for tbh.

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it is not necessary cause as I called it we got the 75% armor reduce on proc anyways so who cares xD new weapons and stuff not capable of doing that even if they got way higher stats compared to older ones.

Here I can address some needed nerfs actually:

Krak bow/gun/sword 75% armor reduce on opponent GIGABROKEN

Krak armor x3 damage multiplier TOO BROKEN (idk why an armor gives x3 dmg as well but w/e)

Star beast amulet x2 damage multiplier and 200% armor TOO BROKEN as well considering we got way more stats on star beast sets this one is going to cause trouble in the future.

So maybe then you can have a decent gameplay which is im hoping for tbh.

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When they removed the spaces per token in Glinstone and other maps, there were complaints for months but they already got used to it, if they nerf the weapons and everything now... they will get used to it in a few months, there will be a lot of complaints but it is necessary for a more stable future because just Now even though they give me 1 weapon, I'm not going to play PVE at a high level, I even prefer to play at a low level, it causes me more excitement than playing at level 86

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When they removed the spaces per token in Glinstone and other maps, there were complaints for months but they already got used to it, if they nerf the weapons and everything now... they will get used to it in a few months, there will be a lot of complaints but it is necessary for a more stable future because just Now even though they give me 1 weapon, I'm not going to play PVE at a high level, I even prefer to play at a low level, it causes me more excitement than playing at level 86

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That’s true the old vibe of Arcane legends when legendary gear was decent enough to play PVE and procs where not mendatory to be able to play PVE is gold.
Even if runs take longer if there is something to drop it’s fine.
Now you play like a brain dead machine a 30 sec run and remap all days it’s just so dumb and crap.


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The downside to playing a lower level is when you're at level 50 plus. It gets lonely.

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The downside to playing a lower level is when you're at level 50 plus. It gets lonely.

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When I started at level 25 I started with a friend and now we have a mini community in the guild of that level, for a level to work we have to support and teach people, as an officer I tell them all the advantages it has in the event and weapons costs, if at high level it is uneven I think it is better to encourage people to play at low level

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I think that the issue of how new players would be able to get enough gold to purchase decent gears should be addressed before something like that could be implemented.
They are struggling to afford almost everything nowadays and that's because there is nothing to loot from maps and the events aren't very forthcoming when it comes to purchasing things from the vendor that's tradeable.
The current event has been ok for selling eggs but that's short-lived.
The balance we did have between free to play and pay to play has been tipped in the favour of pay to play. I use the word "play" loosely as I don't see as many people playing and that is because of the decisions made by the developers. Sorry Devs but it's true, it's done now and I do realise that decisions weren't made in haste and there had to be a good reason otherwise you wouldn't have made them.
So you see, your ideas aren't going down well because new players are unhappy and some are resentful because they can't afford to purchase plat to get on in the game, they become apathetic and leave.
I spend a lot of my time helping but even then they don't stay.
How many players regularly run the woods?
It's still a good game and I do like the fact that lower levels are getting some encouragement lately. I like playing lower level characters for the difficulty and nostalgia. It would be even better if lower levels would team up and try getting through places like maus and all the other maps made for their level without asking to be carried by high levels. Let's face it, we can't keep blaming the developers for new players being too lazy to try. We had to do all the maps without some super strong player carrying us through.
I've just talked myself into realising that new players have it a lot easier now.🤔

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Those lazy new players! LOL.

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Those lazy new players! LOL.

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Yes, some are. I've helped loads of players and there are some that just want carrying through almost every map. I'm not saying all new players are lazy by the way and some don't ask until they really need and I dare say that you have encountered players that just won't even try. In fact some aren't even new, they are alts. 😑

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Yes, some are. I've helped loads of players and there are some that just want carrying through almost every map. I'm not saying all new players are lazy by the way and some don't ask until they really need and I dare say that you have encountered players that just won't even try. In fact some aren't even new, they are alts. 😑

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Everything you said is very true. I have spent alot of time helping new players and some just want help through a map or ask questions and I do my best to help but then you run into the ones that just want a handout. I have given away alot of things in the game to players but I avoid the ones that are just lazy. I dont really consider myself as a "player" anymore, I personally think the game has become to busy with all the new options and it just doesn't appeal to me anymore but I do still enjoy the social aspect of it.

I think it would be really great if there was a group of like minded people that could gather together and help as many serious new players as possible. Some type of Cult or whatever they wanted to call it... Maybe someone should start one. 🤔

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Everything you said is very true. I have spent alot of time helping new players and some just want help through a map or ask questions and I do my best to help but then you run into the ones that just want a handout. I have given away alot of things in the game to players but I avoid the ones that are just lazy. I dont really consider myself as a "player" anymore, I personally think the game has become to busy with all the new options and it just doesn't appeal to me anymore but I do still enjoy the social aspect of it.

I think it would be really great if there was a group of like minded people that could gather together and help as many serious new players as possible. Some type of Cult or whatever they wanted to call it... Maybe someone should start one. ��

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People still take advantage of it. I mean by people those are veterans btw usually. This is why leveling path starting from fester has to be reworked to be able to run alone for them. Hopefully skill revamp going to help a little but won't be enough for sure I can say.

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Everything you said is very true. I have spent alot of time helping new players and some just want help through a map or ask questions and I do my best to help but then you run into the ones that just want a handout. I have given away alot of things in the game to players but I avoid the ones that are just lazy. I dont really consider myself as a "player" anymore, I personally think the game has become to busy with all the new options and it just doesn't appeal to me anymore but I do still enjoy the social aspect of it.

I think it would be really great if there was a group of like minded people that could gather together and help as many serious new players as possible. Some type of Cult or whatever they wanted to call it... Maybe someone should start one. 🤔

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I can't help myself from helping though. It's usually happens when I'm on my low level in travellers ( by the way, why isn't there a pub in Travellers? I mean, after the long journey through the goldmine...) anyway, I see it, someone says, "help!". Then it gets louder and more urgent and sort of with a pleading that I just can't ignore. "Please can someone help me?", they cry.
Quick as a flash I switch to my main, look in the open chat and party the poor soul.
Big mistake, off we go, through all the maps to Nordr and beyond.
It doesn't end there. Through our journey I start gifting them with pets, gears, ankhs, a starter house and sometimes vanities. By the time we get to underhul, oh I hate that map, the hibiscus quest is so difficult to explain to new players, I have headache and I'm sweating, my battery is getting lower and I'm thinking of excuses to go but by then they just keep going.....to festerfang and I'm beginning to dislike the person I'm helping and feeling resentment because they've stopped thanking me and are now treating me as their personal slave.
Sometimes STS have come to my rescue, and broadcasted and update. Oh the relief, I can say bye, "best to go now, we will be disconnected", I type. Then take I my leave after lots of "take cares" and "Cya laters", I inwardly vow that I'll never ever do that again, but I'm the person who just can't seem to can't ignore that word "help". Maybe it's me who needs help, someone teach me how to say no. 🥺

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I can't help myself from helping though. It's usually happens when I'm on my low level in travellers ( by the way, why isn't there a pub in Travellers? I mean, after the long journey through the goldmine...) anyway, I see it, someone says, "help!". Then it gets louder and more urgent and sort of with a pleading that I just can't ignore. "Please can someone help me?", they cry.
Quick as a flash I switch to my main, look in the open chat and party the poor soul.
Big mistake, off we go, through all the maps to Nordr and beyond.
It doesn't end there. Through our journey I start gifting them with pets, gears, ankhs, a starter house and sometimes vanities. By the time we get to underhul, oh I hate that map, the hibiscus quest is so difficult to explain to new players, I have headache and I'm sweating, my battery is getting lower and I'm thinking of excuses to go but by then they just keep going.....to festerfang and I'm beginning to dislike the person I'm helping and feeling resentment because they've stopped thanking me and are now treating me as their personal slave.
Sometimes STS have come to my rescue, and broadcasted and update. Oh the relief, I can say bye, "best to go now, we will be disconnected", I type. Then take I my leave after lots of "take cares" and "Cya laters", I inwardly vow that I'll never ever do that again, but I'm the person who just can't seem to can't ignore that word "help". Maybe it's me who needs help, someone teach me how to say no. 🥺

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From personal experience, never give them anything, the only thing I give are elixirs of experience, when faced with any request, I ignored them because before you helped a lot and they left the guild, it is very rare that they appreciate the help nowadays, they need to suffer this generation, they want everything for free

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From personal experience, never give them anything, the only thing I give are elixirs of experience, when faced with any request, I ignored them because before you helped a lot and they left the guild, it is very rare that they appreciate the help nowadays, they need to suffer this generation, they want everything for free

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I have met some of my closest friends by helping them out when they first started. Yes I agree that the majority of people you help takes advantage of it with no appreciation but... There are always those few that actually do appreciate the help and helping people makes me personally feel good even if they dont appreciate it

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I inwardly vow that I'll never ever do that again, but I'm the person who just can't seem to can't ignore that word "help". Maybe it's me who needs help, someone teach me how to say no. ��

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I seen some really top hardcore player that get bombarded with pms for help.. he would show me the mail messages for help and even friend requests that just lead to begging for help only. It's more crazy during double exp because there's sets of folks.. not just one or two.. there would be another 3 players waiting till he's done helping others just to be in line.. and he wouldn't get anything done for himself but that's the sacrifice he would take and that's the worst part about having such a good heart for others. I guess it seems like after he realized that they only used him.. the top hardcore guy would decline them respectfully and move on with his own thing but the folks that asked for help begin to hate him because he respectfully declined. I've seen it first hand which is by far the scariest part.
It's true that some folks will just use you and not appreciate the time you spent for them.. it's so shameful.

but I seen him using this line lately and it works great for him

What he would do is.. he would look at the stats and he will say you're decent enough to solo but if it's someone who's genuinely a noob, then he would help by giving a item or two and that's about it. nothing more and nothing less.
if they keep asking for help.. then he would say, I'm busy atm working on my own char I'm not really obligated to help you but try to ask your guild.
and if they do it the third time and again he would say
I'm not obligated to help you, it's my account and I control it, not you. Sorry noty. Please join a guild and seek the loyalty of someone that will help you because I'm busy atm.

after that line he wouldn't respond to anything and just move on continuing to play with his guild and spouse and play the game. That's what I witnessed that seems to work so far.

Don't give away your precious time to those that don't appreciate your time and assistance sis <3

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Originally Posted by Susanne

I can't help myself from helping though. It's usually happens when I'm on my low level in travellers ( by the way, why isn't there a pub in Travellers? I mean, after the long journey through the goldmine...) anyway, I see it, someone says, "help!". Then it gets louder and more urgent and sort of with a pleading that I just can't ignore. "Please can someone help me?", they cry.
Quick as a flash I switch to my main, look in the open chat and party the poor soul.
Big mistake, off we go, through all the maps to Nordr and beyond.
It doesn't end there. Through our journey I start gifting them with pets, gears, ankhs, a starter house and sometimes vanities. By the time we get to underhul, oh I hate that map, the hibiscus quest is so difficult to explain to new players, I have headache and I'm sweating, my battery is getting lower and I'm thinking of excuses to go but by then they just keep going.....to festerfang and I'm beginning to dislike the person I'm helping and feeling resentment because they've stopped thanking me and are now treating me as their personal slave.
Sometimes STS have come to my rescue, and broadcasted and update. Oh the relief, I can say bye, "best to go now, we will be disconnected", I type. Then take I my leave after lots of "take cares" and "Cya laters", I inwardly vow that I'll never ever do that again, but I'm the person who just can't seem to can't ignore that word "help". Maybe it's me who needs help, someone teach me how to say no. ��

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Lmaoo I feel this. I do help new players, but I specifically tell them which quests they need help with and to keep me updated. I can't spend hours helping one player. I also give new players gold if they're asking for liike "6,000 to buy legendary sword" I give them 60k or 600k because that amount is insignificant to me and maybe it helps them out alot. Also if I have extra eggs I give them, they usually are very happy about any little thing they can get and it brings a little joy to me.

In the past I have made many posts about how new players need help and I stick to that. The reason I do help people is because I remember how it felt to need help with the dreaded Alpha boss in Nordr years ago.
Now some of you may remember just how difficult the bosses were back then. The cap was level 36 but I wasn't quite there, gears were usually a mixture of legendary and epic.
I'll never forget it. People from the guild I was in and a warrior friend came into the map. I was told to hide behind a rock (not me physically, my rogue) and when it was time, they would tell me to join in. That boss was hard, it reflects but not many new players notice that now because it's easy these days to solo but it took them quite a while to kill it. They used skill and strategy.
All the bosses back then were hard.
I'm glad new players do get the help they need and my post earlier was to raise a smile because I know most of us have been there. We want to help, it makes us feel good but sometimes we do get tired.
In fact sometimes it's easier to give them items and gold but time is more precious.
Giving advice, answering questions just chatting and sending them a friend invite besides helping out with items is usually what they need.
I would sooner they asked for help with bosses and gave the maps a try though and yes, as someone mentioned, guilds should be helpful too.
New players need to team up but it never happens nowadays. Even old players don't team play as much, in fact some feel the need to solo Rahab, Hedo etc..then brag about it. Sorry for rambling on. I'll zip it now. 🤐

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Originally Posted by Susanne

In the past I have made many posts about how new players need help and I stick to that. The reason I do help people is because I remember how it felt to need help with the dreaded Alpha boss in Nordr years ago.
Now some of you may remember just how difficult the bosses were back then. The cap was level 36 but I wasn't quite there, gears were usually a mixture of legendary and epic.
I'll never forget it. People from the guild I was in and a warrior friend came into the map. I was told to hide behind a rock (not me physically, my rogue) and when it was time, they would tell me to join in. That boss was hard, it reflects but not many new players notice that now because it's easy these days to solo but it took them quite a while to kill it. They used skill and strategy.
All the bosses back then were hard.
I'm glad new players do get the help they need and my post earlier was to raise a smile because I know most of us have been there. We want to help, it makes us feel good but sometimes we do get tired.
In fact sometimes it's easier to give them items and gold but time is more precious.
Giving advice, answering questions just chatting and sending them a friend invite besides helping out with items is usually what they need.
I would sooner they asked for help with bosses and gave the maps a try though and yes, as someone mentioned, guilds should be helpful too.
New players need to team up but it never happens nowadays. Even old players don't team play as much, in fact some feel the need to solo Rahab, Hedo etc..then brag about it. Sorry for rambling on. I'll zip it now. [emoji850]

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I totally agree that nowadays gameplay is more into gear than skill.
The best advice you can give to people is to buy the latest gear and they will step on everything.


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Originally Posted by Fahtsssss

Lmaoo I feel this. I do help new players, but I specifically tell them which quests they need help with and to keep me updated. I can't spend hours helping one player. I also give new players gold if they're asking for liike "6,000 to buy legendary sword" I give them 60k or 600k because that amount is insignificant to me and maybe it helps them out alot. Also if I have extra eggs I give them, they usually are very happy about any little thing they can get and it brings a little joy to me.

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That's so nice of you. Seeing these posts made me smile. It's nice to know there's good people out there.
I know it's "just a game" but like I always say, this game mirrors real life.

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Originally Posted by Susanne

That's so nice of you. Seeing these posts made me smile. It's nice to know there's good people out there.
I know it's "just a game" but like I always say, this game mirrors real life.

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Susanne, You make me proud to know you. Yes, the game is just a game but the people playing it are real so you are doing actual good for sure. If they appreciate it or don't doesn't make you any less of a good person. So keep being awesome! :-)

i agree with this

not with the writer.

its very easy very hard

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Originally Posted by Susanne

I can't help myself from helping though. It's usually happens when I'm on my low level in travellers ( by the way, why isn't there a pub in Travellers? I mean, after the long journey through the goldmine...) anyway, I see it, someone says, "help!". Then it gets louder and more urgent and sort of with a pleading that I just can't ignore. "Please can someone help me?", they cry.
Quick as a flash I switch to my main, look in the open chat and party the poor soul.
Big mistake, off we go, through all the maps to Nordr and beyond.
It doesn't end there. Through our journey I start gifting them with pets, gears, ankhs, a starter house and sometimes vanities. By the time we get to underhul, oh I hate that map, the hibiscus quest is so difficult to explain to new players, I have headache and I'm sweating, my battery is getting lower and I'm thinking of excuses to go but by then they just keep going.....to festerfang and I'm beginning to dislike the person I'm helping and feeling resentment because they've stopped thanking me and are now treating me as their personal slave.
Sometimes STS have come to my rescue, and broadcasted and update. Oh the relief, I can say bye, "best to go now, we will be disconnected", I type. Then take I my leave after lots of "take cares" and "Cya laters", I inwardly vow that I'll never ever do that again, but I'm the person who just can't seem to can't ignore that word "help". Maybe it's me who needs help, someone teach me how to say no. ��

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Lol so true. But wait, it doesn't stop there. You befriend every one of the players who needs help, and of course now they receive notifications whenever you join the game. Prepare yourself for 10+ dms the second you open the game, no matter what time of day it is. Now you can't remove them from your friends list because that would be rude, right? And they would notice right away since, well, you're their only friend right now hahaha. Now you have to come up with excuses everytime you play the game, and send them all the same message.

Its like in that saying "give someone a hand, and they'll take your whole arm". Somehow I can understand them, but on the other side it takes so much time to help everyone run through same boring maps 100 times for quests or xp farm. At some point it gets old and u become tired of getting so many dms from people asking for help. I mean sure, we all have been newbies at some point, but tbh I don't think I've ever stressed someone out like that asking them everyday to help me or give me stuff. Perhaps that's the whole problem with the difficulty of the game nowadays, and this is where sts should start investigating some options to make newbies' lives easier.