EndGame PvP/PvE Build

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A Guide highly made for Non-Mythic Tanks

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Chest splitter -3/5(relentless strike & Staggering blow
Skyward - Thundering Hammer & Quaking Earth
Horn of Renew - Inc range, Inc duration and Prot Shield.
Vengefull blood - Max
Juggernaut - Max

This isn't a build that I made. It is mainly a compilation of opinions from other warriors/friends that I put together.

PvP Build
Tank Mode:

Juggernaut
Skyward Mash
Horn or Renew
Chest Splitter
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A) Juggernaut - Skyward - Slag Panic Arcane - Chest Splitter - Horn of Renew
B & C) Horn - Skyward - Slag Panic Arcane - Juggernaut - Chest Splitter -
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Note: Ofc, there will be times that this skill pattern that i used are ineffective. For sometimes, I get stun+panic lock, or skills get canceled by stun/panic. skills being canceled is realy annoying. My suggestions of using skills are based on my judgement through my experience in PvP. Other people might use better skill patterns so it is really on each players judgement of the situation they're in. Later, maybe you
Can make your own set of skill pattern.

"Theory is to Guide, Experience is to Decide"

Tanking alone VS ......

A) A team with Curse Bomber

1. I would suggest to delay your Invulne shield and use it
after the smurf release Curse.


B) A team with 2tanks - Based on my experience,

1. Organized the team and ask them to "move forward,Dive in, ignore the tanks and Aim the backliners(rogue/smurf)"
2. Become the Great Wall!!!!! stay infront, absorb and eat all the damage.


C) A team with a "kiter" aka runner rogues -

1. Best you can do is act like you're chasing him/her, But don't chase! A rogue who kites will always run even if you move just lil bit closer. Once he backs off, it will become 4v5, the rogue being far away not able to help his team GG.

d) A team with 5mauls + Samael - LEAVE! -_-

1v1

You VS smurf/ Rogue/warrior

Chest splitter
Skyward Smash
Vengefull
Horn of Renew
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Note: You can also use TankMode Build VS Smurf/Rogue

PvE Build
Elite Maps:

Chest Splitter
Juggernaut
Skyward Smash
Horn of Renew
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I use 3taunt skills to "grab" arggo. In AL it is too challenging for a tank to Grab aggro and
It's impossible to "Keep" the arggo.

Note: Try to save and use Horn's protective shield only for the boss' killer blow.
Example: when you notice Inan'ash trying to do his skill (red lights on the ground) then that is the best time
You should use your shield, so no one will die.








Alternative Hybrid build
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Windmill - max
Skyward - 3/5
Horn - max
juggernaut - max
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Might
Dex
Int
Dmg

Update: Jan14, fixed some grammars and added some words.

Lol scotch, 5 sams & 5 mauls leave xD true true, good thread buddy

haha, cant beat Team'OP.

and ty, i hope it would help those people that
keep making threads and asking for pve/pvp builds

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Originally Posted by Cero

haha, cant beat Team'OP.

and ty, i hope it would help those people that
keep making threads and asking for pve/pvp builds

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Good stuff my man & true hehehe

you keep writing "arggo" for "aggro".

I have a question: My current skill build is VB, Jugg, CS and HoR and I specialize in pve. I changed the Smash to VB for the buff VB gives, do you think that's a good idea?

theres nothing wrong about it cos VB is also a offense deffense buff imo.

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Originally Posted by Cero

d) A team with 5mauls + Samael - LEAVE! -_-

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hhahahha, omg best part of this whole guide.

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Originally Posted by Cero

1v1

You VS smurf/ Rogue/warrior

Chest splitter
Skyward Smash
Vengefull
Horn of Renew
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Note: You can also use TankMode Build VS Smurf/Rogue

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thats for 1v1?

I suggest throwing wm against warriors
1. split mana killer-
2. no need to feeble
3. faster kill, overall damage is higher
against rogues.. good to have cs.. only problem with it is u gotta aim - and id suggest throwing jugg against rogues...axe works nice, cooldown not so great

not bad thread

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Originally Posted by inkredble

thats for 1v1?

I suggest throwing wm against warriors
1. split mana killer-
2. no need to feeble
3. faster kill, overall damage is higher
against rogues.. good to have cs.. only problem with it is u gotta aim - and id suggest throwing jugg against rogues...axe works nice, cooldown not so great

not bad thread

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IMO Feeble is needed so they wont crit. Especialy now that rogues and mages can crit high with the new mythics.
CS downside is always mana usage and the aim.
and as what i said on my "note", you can use the tank build which has juggernaut.
and yes, WM has overall dmg, but it doesnt have feeble to minimize other class' overall dmg.
anyways, chosing builds are mostly decided from ones experience. AL can be played with different build which is good for players that like other skills.


and thanks.

Axe throw also gives feeble effect :)
just saying
Keeping agrro is hard - why not use 4 taunt skill instead of just 3?

Good stuff Cero!

Cero, I thought you were a sorcerer. I feel cheated :disillusionment:

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Originally Posted by bhutkeyur:1273074

Axe throw also gives feeble effect :)
just saying
Keeping agrro is hard - why not use 4 taunt skill instead of just 3?

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Yes, I also like axe but in pvp not in pve.
Axe can

as for me, to have axe in pve isnt effective since only hit 1target and pauses the toon while casted. but of course if you prefer having all taunt skills, Its cool, It is your own build that would support your playstyle.

Man. I didn't know you use same skill set as me.

nice thread. :)

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Originally Posted by mstj

Man. I didn't know you use same skill set as me.

nice thread. :)

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I think there are a few warriors who use this kind of setup.

Update:

Added Alternative Hybrid

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Originally Posted by Cero

IMO Feeble is needed so they wont crit. Especialy now that rogues and mages can crit high with the new mythics.
CS downside is always mana usage and the aim.
and as what i said on my "note", you can use the tank build which has juggernaut.
and yes, WM has overall dmg, but it doesnt have feeble to minimize other class' overall dmg.
anyways, chosing builds are mostly decided from ones experience. AL can be played with different build which is good for players that like other skills.


and thanks.

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im talking about warriors critting, my post wasnt targeted 1v1 against rogue/ smurf,
both warriors having around 1800 armor, ur crit damage wont be that much unless you have a maul
thats what i meant by split not needed against wariors, i personally prefer wm against warriors

but ofcourse.. like i said for rogue and smurf, good to have cs / jugg <

ofcourse theres many diff strategies too :)

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Originally Posted by bhutkeyur

Axe throw also gives feeble effect :)
just saying
Keeping agrro is hard - why not use 4 taunt skill instead of just 3?

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4 taunt skill hmm
WM / JUGG/ HOR / AXE ?
im not sure if axe would work great for pve ..
only attached to 1.. so really your "keeping agro" of " one"

(WM/HOR/ JUGG / SMASH ) 3 taunt is your best bet when theres a lot of mobs.. other wise if you use axe to keep agro.. youre wasting time and skill slot. The cool down takes too long and only hits one mob

axe is pretty good against the boss , maybe like double feeble, two taunts

Axe / CS/ HOR / JUGG - only good against boss - u might be force to do 5 skills and switching skills at boss
this build isnt really great againt mobs



though for me, i find CS/ SMASH/ HOR / JUGG best for pve elites
you split more than one mobs for sure.. reduces crit.. cool down for cs is awesome

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d) A team with 5mauls + Samael - LEAVE! -_-

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Hahaha LOLL

:P no comment

Hi cero,

Could u pls Post the whole build including passives?

I dont know how much points u spend for each skill and u posted different builds... So I am a little bit confused :)

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Originally Posted by inkredble

4 taunt skill hmm
WM / JUGG/ HOR / AXE ?
im not sure if axe would work great for pve ..
only attached to 1.. so really your "keeping agro" of " one"

(WM/HOR/ JUGG / SMASH ) 3 taunt is your best bet when theres a lot of mobs.. other wise if you use axe to keep agro.. youre wasting time and skill slot. The cool down takes too long and only hits one mob

axe is pretty good against the boss , maybe like double feeble, two taunts

Axe / CS/ HOR / JUGG - only good against boss - u might be force to do 5 skills and switching skills at boss
this build isnt really great againt mobs



though for me, i find CS/ SMASH/ HOR / JUGG best for pve elites
you split more than one mobs for sure.. reduces crit.. cool down for cs is awesome

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umm u missed - cs/jugg/hor/wm (for thrash mobs) and for single target boss fight cs-wm-at-hor

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Originally Posted by Unxund

Hi cero,

Could u pls Post the whole build including passives?

I dont know how much points u spend for each skill and u posted different builds... So I am a little bit confused :)

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hey man, sorry if it took too long to edit my guide but here it is:)

Thanks for the write up , very useful to me

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Originally Posted by Cero

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Attachment 56699

A Guide highly made for Non-Mythic Tanks

Attachment 55875
Attachment 55876


Chest splitter -3/5(relentless strike & Staggering blow
Skyward - Thundering Hammer & Quaking Earth
Horn of Renew - Inc range, Inc duration and Prot Shield.
Vengefull blood - Max
Juggernaut - Max

This isn't a build that I made. It is mainly a compilation of opinions from other warriors/friends that I put together.

PvP Build
Tank Mode:

Juggernaut
Skyward Mash
Horn or Renew
Vengefull Blood
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a) Juggernaut - Vengefull - Skyward - Slag Panic Arcane - Horn of Renew
b&c) Horn - Vengefull - Juggernaut - Skyward - Slag Panic Arcane
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Note: Ofc, there will be times that this skill pattern that i used are ineffective, for sometimes, I get stun+panic lock, or skills get canceled by stun/panic. skills being canceled is realy annoying. Sometimes I let my self get stunned to get immunity and start using skills.

Tanking alone VS ......

a) A team with Curse Bomber - I would suggest to delay your Invulne shield and use it
after the smurf release Curse.

b) A team with 2tanks - Based on my experience,
b.a)Organized the team and ask them to "move forward,Dive in, ignore the tanks and Aim the backliners(rogue/smurf)"
b.b) Become the Great Wall!!!!! stay infront, absorb and eat all the damage.

c) A team with a "kiter" aka runner rogues -
Best you can do is act like you're chasing him/her, But don't chase! A rogue who kites will always run even if you move just lil bit closer. Once he backs off, it will become 4v5, the rogue being far away not able to help his team GG.

d) A team with 5mauls + Samael - LEAVE! -_-

1v1

You VS smurf/ Rogue/warrior

Chest splitter
Skyward Smash
Vengefull
Horn of Renew
-----------------------
Note: You can also use TankMode Build VS Smurf/Rogue

PvE Build
Elite Maps:

Chest Splitter
Juggernaut
Skyward Smash
Horn of Renew
-----------------------
I use 3taunt skills to "grab" arggo. In AL it is too challenging for a tank to Grab arggo and
It's impossible to "Keep" the arggo.

Alternative Hybrid build
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Windmill - max
Skyward - 3/5
Horn - max
juggernaut - max
----------------
Might
Dex
Int
Dmg

Most Vital thing you must do is to know the class skills, cooldowns and its upgrade of what they can add. The more you know them the more you can play the class to its peek.

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you will be always my hero , omg i feel so guilty and ashamed sorry for misunderstanding ;(, and thx for your delicate way in replying .

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Originally Posted by Xbadboyx

you have made a promise bro...

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I send you the reply
And as you can see i did not broke my promise.

Very nice build. I changed to it and it helped me a lot, I'm on way to make a positive kd))) But idk how it can be compared to 6 skill build. I lose to warriors with 6 skill build cuz they have 3 attack skills while I have only 2...

hi Cero, just want to as what pet to use in pvp same as well in pve.. mali should do the trick? or prance/orion?

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Originally Posted by S3adra:1412723

hi Cero, just want to as what pet to use in pvp same as well in pve.. mali should do the trick? or prance/orion?

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For pvp i use valkin because it gives mana which is needed for the lack of mana the gears gives.
But on some other situation like having to face 3+ warriors then i use vixen to scatter them up.
Pets are there for different purposes. So knowing what the pets do is your best trick.

thanks

Do u think (( axe,CS,jugg,hor )) will be great in pvp

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Originally Posted by Jamal_idris2

Do u think (( axe,CS,jugg,hor )) will be great in pvp

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Nice necro-.-