Where oh Where are all the Tanks Gone?

I've been rogue since I began playing Arcane Legends 2 1/2 years ago. Over the course of time, I've noticed a distinct prejudice against the warrior class. "They are too slow". "They have little damage". To my dismay, it appears many tanks are giving up the battle, they are slowly becoming extinct. I hate to see this, I've always enjoyed parties that include tanks. Why is the few minutes less time the end all and be all? It's is sad that when you look through friend list these days, many of our old friends are gone. I realize that each class has its pros and cons but it will be a sad day when all the tanks have vanished, the loss of such a great class is sad, Arcane Legends will be a two class game, and we will all have lost an essential component of this game.

+1 to this

Ign cheoeqar pt me sometime im a war and would love to run some elit maps

All the tanks and mages are (and have been for a while) quitting game... Don't blame them... I'm sick of waiting for things to get fixed too.

I used to main a tank, my guildmates would always try to invite tanks to parties but usually everywhere else no one wanted a tank. So I sold my bulwark and now I play on a rogue. Its missing a mythic bow and mythic ring but I still get invites to parties. Funny when a half mythic geared rogue gets more invites than a full mythic/arcane tank

Jt needs to be made rogue legends. Not arcane legends....

Always seems to be tons of them when you do pub event parties. Pretty common to get 3 of them and have epic long battles. One is great, 3 is bad.

I know how it is Rosna, I've seen a LOT of my friends changing to rogue, and the bad thing is they were good tanks, i always liked to play with them even in arena ( everyone say arena a place just for rogues) but when i ran with one of my friends in arena sometimes it was better than a full party of rogues. I hope the rest of the players that play as a warrior don't give up,there's still people who like to have a tank in pt,im one of them.

Well said all, I love to party with tanks and mages. I guess I'm old school but I love a party with all classes. I like the people I meet, all classes, we run arena, elites, tombs and have a blast. Isn't that what this game is all about?

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Originally Posted by Rx8

Jt needs to be made rogue legends. Not arcane legends....

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Lol... +1

I held out as long as I could with tank, but it just got too boring and I gave it up (cry).... Now I'm having same problem as mage (cry) ..

And I totally agree that it really ridiculous that a half geared rogue is more useful than maxed geared mage or tank for majority of runs.

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Originally Posted by Bellaelda

Lol... +1

I held out as long as I could with tank, but it just got too boring and I gave it up (cry).... Now I'm having same problem as mage (cry) ..

And I totally agree that it really ridiculous that a half geared rogue is more useful than maxed geared mage or tank for majority of runs.

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Not just that, sometimes I'll get a pm from a different party group wanting for me to join them so they can have a full pt to run with them. If I tell them I'm in a pt they'll tell me to leave and join their group..

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Originally Posted by Sakurahb

I know how it is Rosna, I've seen a LOT of my friends changing to rogue, and the bad thing is they were good tanks, i always liked to play with them even in arena ( everyone say arena a place just for rogues) but when i ran with one of my friends in arena sometimes it was better than a full party of rogues. I hope the rest of the players that play as a warrior don't give up,there's still people who like to have a tank in pt,im one of them.

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i like having a tank in my party as well.

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Originally Posted by Noobx

Not just that, sometimes I'll get a pm from a different party group wanting for me to join them so they can have a full pt to run with them. If I tell them I'm in a pt they'll tell me to leave and join their group..

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Yeah... Every group is short on rogues (mostly cause that's the only class that kills anything without taking forever) ... That's all I see in guild chat, or in towns, or in tombs... Need rogue... Blah blah blah... Gear doesn't even matter for most part... It's sad

A legendary tank or mage can stand around begging for groups for hours or days, but if u legendary rogue you'll find one no problem... It's just beyond my understanding how they can allow such as great class divide to go on for so long.

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Originally Posted by Bellaelda

Yeah... Every group is short on rogues (mostly cause that's the only class that kills anything without taking forever) ... That's all I see in guild chat, or in towns, or in tombs... Need rogue... Blah blah blah... Gear doesn't even matter for most part... It's sad

A legendary tank or mage can stand around begging for groups for hours or days, but if u legendary rogue you'll find one no problem... It's just beyond my understanding how they can allow such as great class divide to go on for so long.

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Stat doesn't even matter nowadays. I've seen full legendary rogues with around 470 damage and 27% crit (just estimate) get invited to parties over mages with 620+damage(mythic gun), and this is when the mage(s) had been asking for a few minutes with no one else around. I've seen this happen because I was afk while eating dinner. And I saw the tank and 3 rogues go into t3, leaving the mage behind.

My main is warrior and these are my thoughts.
I have noticed that a lot of tanks don't know how to tank. So this is maybe part of the problem with people not inviting them. I have a couple lower level chars and I am always baffled at how so many people playing the war class have no idea of how to play their role. So when people get to end game they have stopped running with tanks because they where useless at the start so why use them at the end.
I also think people get discourage playing war because the war is slower to level and harder to solo, so they just switch class.

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Originally Posted by Noobx

Stat doesn't even matter nowadays. I've seen full legendary rogues with around 470 damage and 27% crit (just estimate) get invited to parties over mages with 620+damage(mythic gun), and this is when the mage(s) had been asking for a few minutes with no one else around. I've seen this happen because I was afk while eating dinner. And I saw the tank and 3 rogues go into t3, leaving the mage behind.

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Yeah exactly!

I get invites, but only cause I'm maxed out... I feel so bad watching all the mages and tanks standing around begging and crying for a group and I feel their pain... I understand and appreciate classes having their individual roles, but the way things are pets do a much better job of being a mage or tank... Lol

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Originally Posted by Clickbangboom

My main is warrior and these are my thoughts.
I have noticed that a lot of tanks don't know how to tank. So this is maybe part of the problem with people not inviting them. I have a couple lower level chars and I am always baffled at how so many people playing the war class have no idea of how to play their role. So when people get to end game they have stopped running with tanks because they where useless at the start so why use them at the end.
I also think people get discourage playing war because the war is slower to level and harder to solo, so they just switch class.

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This was the case a long time ago, but the problem now isn't with the tanks as much as the class itself... Tanks just can't properly hold aggro... Their skills aren't built for it and one shot from a mage or rogue overrides their aggro... The best they can do is use all aggro skills, but even that isn't much help... Especially when pets can stun and pull mobs better than a mage or tank can.

Without Warrior ,you cannot Step on Elite Planar

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Originally Posted by Bellaelda

This was the case a long time ago, but the problem now isn't with the tanks as much as the class itself... Tanks just can't properly hold aggro... Their skills aren't built for it and one shot from a mage or rogue overrides their aggro... The best they can do is use all aggro skills, but even that isn't much help... Especially when pets can stun and pull mobs better than a mage or tank can.

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Very true!

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Originally Posted by Hoardseeker

Without Warrior ,you cannot Step on Elite Planar

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What? Lol

sounds like Tanks will only be found in twinking levels soon

All the Warriors are in PVP ganging meh :O

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Originally Posted by Ralchior

All the Warriors are in PVP ganging meh :O

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Even when ganging, warriors rarely get kills LOL

Its true im seeing less and less maxxed out warrior 41 or idk maybe they just dont go to pier anymore.

Guess they all moved to planar arena. So much tanks every time -.-

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Originally Posted by Rosna

I've been rogue since I began playing Arcane Legends 2 1/2 years ago. Over the course of time, I've noticed a distinct prejudice against the warrior class. "They are too slow". "They have little damage". To my dismay, it appears many tanks are giving up the battle, they are slowly becoming extinct. I hate to see this, I've always enjoyed parties that include tanks. Why is the few minutes less time the end all and be all? It's is sad that when you look through friend list these days, many of our old friends are gone. I realize that each class has its pros and cons but it will be a sad day when all the tanks have vanished, the loss of such a great class is sad, Arcane Legends will be a two class game, and we will all have lost an essential component of this game.

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its because the class isnt needed anymore..same but not that explicit is the sorcerers class..

Im still here for you rosna just pm me if u needed a tank, but not in pvp , I hang up my gear and retire in pvp :) . Have a good day ^^

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Originally Posted by Hoardseeker

Without Warrior ,you cannot Step on Elite Planar

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I'm not sure where u base this idea... Maybe you've had bad groups or bad lag... I dunno.... But tanks aren't needed on any level pve with good pets... And very few levels for mage

Needless to say, I used to be a warrior too and quited.

I started the game with a noob rogue but never leveled it up passed 20.
I was mainly a warrior (level 40). I deleted that toon Cuz my skills were messed up. I was noob I didnt know we could respec skills.
Don't judge my noobiness, cuz it was to it's extreme. I didnt even know what was Taunt. Lol.
I also deleted it because it was on FB. I disliked syncing it to FB as I had other games synced to my other fb. Hated switching FB accounts.

I deleted it and started mage on google +
I understood the game and learned stuffs while playing the mage.
Mage was so fun. After reaching it to 41, I started a new warrior. Thought to come back to warrior. As I played with it, I learned the other stuffs which I didn't yet.
I used to love playing warrior.
I liked it too much.
This time I knew whats taunt and what's a role of warrior.
playing with low level was fun as I met some knowledgeable low level in pugs, they used to compliment my tank job.
I miss those times when these Op gears wasn't introduced and I used to have No Arcane Ring friends in my friendlist.
I used to get alot of requests to join them in elite tarewa (when it was hard stuff).
A pavise weapon could make you great warrior.


Iam sure I don't need to say What happened now. I made the op class Rogue with my friend who deleted his op toon which had samael and hj. (Samael was 25m that time anf the best pet).
I quited my warrior. Its eating dust.
I have like 4 pve warriors. All are sharing dusts.

Iam a full time rogue now …
In my guild, we run in tombs arena elite maps with warrior.
But still there are alot of warriors who can't afford new toons new class. Getting pt for every warrior is not possible.
If we have 3-4 parties all running tombs/ elites, only 3-4 warriors get to play. Other 5 warriors stay in town chatting in guild chat waiting for their turns. They are making rogues too, a poor rogue as they spent too much already on their warrior.

When I scroll down my friend lists, I remember so many good friends or good people.. never online. Most of them are warriors.

Soon we will only see Rogues everywhere.
The only warriors we will see, will be either pvp twinks or new people who are yet to figure out that they should make a rogue.

All parties need 3 or 4 dps and 0 or 1 tank, i can see why sime warriors just gave up on waiting for a party.

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Originally Posted by Sakurahb

I know how it is Rosna, I've seen a LOT of my friends changing to rogue, and the bad thing is they were good tanks, i always liked to play with them even in arena ( everyone say arena a place just for rogues) but when i ran with one of my friends in arena sometimes it was better than a full party of rogues. I hope the rest of the players that play as a warrior don't give up,there's still people who like to have a tank in pt,im one of them.

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this!!!!! +1

I played since end of 2014, right when gob invasion started. I first started this game as a tank... leveled it to 30... it was so fun at first maps, when other classes die i dont... then someone asked me to trade my clash of clans account to 41 mage.. and my tank was on same google+ but i said yes and said bye to my tank.... so i played mage some time, i dont rly like it u die so easily and hard to find pts. Then i sold it around 800k, started bedmaster char as tank cuz i thought they could kill my mage fast in pvp so theyr good, spent that gold buying pets like yowie and equips... leveled it to 32 atm, but after i realized tanks arent needed i sold the equips and began gearing a rogue my friend gave me, which is my main now, lv36 atm. So sad that fun char was slow to kill... maybe prob is mage and rogue has skill that give 250% dmg on crit, maybe make ss and axe give 200% on crit and we will find pt too. With rogue i always had mana probs. My ping is always red so i cant act fast like rogues hav too, and i always die. As tank u can play with red ping... but only in low maps which dont need pts.

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Hi all,

I'd like to share my 2 cents here.

I'm an endgame warrior, you might have seen me naked in town a couple of times saying/doing something stupid, lately that's the most fun I can take out of the game, nothing new is happening for a long time.

Anyway, I would like to mention that I actually started the game as a Rogue. After having him capped for a while I decided to try and lvl a warrior, see how it is. I gotta say, I enjoy more playing as a Warrior than as rogue. Not that it is better or anything, personal preference, you can call me crazy if you want.

Nonetheless, I eventualy still use Rogue, specially on contests. Last time was on Tour of Arlor and I gotta say, I started to understand why some top geared end game rogues don't want a Warrior on PT. It is simply way faster with a full rogue pt. Now you are probably wondering, so why the hell won't you stick with rogue? You can farm more in less time, runs seems easier since they are faster, etc etc etc.... Well the simple truth is that I enjoy playing as a Warrior and even though it seems like for some of us the only option to keep playing is to change to a rogue I refuse to do so. The day I have to give up playing with the class I enjoy the most because of the inability of STS to balance PVE mechanics is the day I will quit the game (even though it seems closer by the day...).

Anyway, I'd like to thank my friends for having the patience to run with this "meat sack" here!!!!

I FULLY agree Ros. Its literally NO FUN PVE for Warriors. I TDM 100% of the time now outside of events. Totally BS
I actually made a Rogue on "Darkness Reborn" by Gamevil. REALLY REALLY fun now. Just too bad its taken me and my $ to another game.
Maybe after a bunch more uselss events, STG will get their heads outta their butts and actually fix some things... zzzzz

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Originally Posted by Kakashis

Even when ganging, warriors rarely get kills LOL

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pfft, i think i remember you dying by my bone a few times. I average 8 to 12 kills per round TDM. Never underestimate a Warrior swinging 600dmg, 750dps and 35crit (sorry for thread hack)

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Originally Posted by Samaeldavisjr

pfft, i think i remember you dying by my bone a few times. I average 8 to 12 kills per round TDM. Never underestimate a Warrior swinging 600dmg, 750dps and 35crit (sorry for thread hack)

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Please lets try to avoid the usual piss contest and drama from PVP to ruin this thread!

As a Warrior is quite nice to see threads like this!

suggestion on new cap, make all boss in new map one hit kill rogue and mage if getting closer and only tank can survive, after that ignore all rogue and mage begging about nerf that boss. So they must party with warrior to kill d boss.

I knew the tanks were having major issues, but until now did not realize that mages were being ostracized so much as well. Mages are awesome in pve, they are able to decimate mobs so well, I love running with mages too. Lol I guess I just like well balanced parties. Don't get me wrong I've run in all rogue parties, they are very fast, and a lot of fun. I guess the point I'm trying to make is that a all class party is fun as well!

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Originally Posted by xbadulaserosx

Im still here for you rosna just pm me if u needed a tank, but not in pvp , I hang up my gear and retire in pvp :) . Have a good day ^^

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Badulaseros: BTE (Best Tank Ever, add some missile and fireworks for better effect)

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Originally Posted by Axesam

suggestion on new cap, make all boss in new map one hit kill rogue and mage if getting closer and only tank can survive

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This already exists and proved to be no solution since mages and rogues are not a meelee class.

I think that only by changing a bit the current skills for warrs we might see some improvement. I'll not go further on what those changes would be since I already discussed them on several other threads, now is STS time to make a move, they already got plenty of input and suggestions by us.