Skills Kinda Useless

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07-10-2011, 05:18 PM
Junside

Skills Kinda Useless

Engineers don't put up a very good fight by themselves. Luckily we have healing and makes it somewhat possible, but still, I only use 5 skills.

Empathy (6)
Revive (1)
Protection (1)
Transference (6) *best skill by the way, so far*
Pain (6)

I should put one into Supression though, it's a good skill for mob control. But overall, it's not a very fun class, compared to say, the Enchantress.

Feel free to discuss. This is just my opinion(you can agree/disagree), and I am aware that there will probably be a rebalance. But for now, Engineer is strictly best as a support role.
07-10-2011, 05:22 PM
Phoenixking

It kind of takes me back to when a enchantress could get killed super quickly till the rebalance
07-10-2011, 05:30 PM
Junside

Maybe I'm so used to the mage class dropping nukes that I am a bit dissatisfied with the lack of AOE damage output.
07-10-2011, 05:40 PM
Phoenixking

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Originally Posted by Junside

Maybe I'm so used to the mage class dropping nukes that I am a bit dissatisfied with the lack of AOE damage output.

Well then love the dot adore the dot and yearn the dot then you might like engie lol jk
07-10-2011, 05:44 PM
Lesrider

The skills sound so similar to PL. Are there really no passive skills?
07-10-2011, 06:00 PM
Junside

Protection is an armor buff. There's a force field (shield)

I imagined something craftier for each class. Engineers able to alter genetics, summoning things like mutants, or build turrets/minions. There's 4 more skills to unlock so we'll have to wait and see.
07-10-2011, 07:25 PM
Otukura

Quote:

Originally Posted by Junside

Protection is an armor buff. There's a force field (shield)

I imagined something craftier for each class. Engineers able to alter genetics, summoning things like mutants, or build turrets/minions. There's 4 more skills to unlock so we'll have to wait and see.

3* more skills. I with operatives, I feel like there's too many skills to choose from. Any suggest builds? I can't decide which I want.
07-11-2011, 01:14 AM
Diodge

I think the engineer is elite.
07-11-2011, 01:27 AM
Lesrider

Sounds like an engineer is a healer class instead of the healer/Mage that enchantresses are. ...?
07-11-2011, 01:34 AM
Otukura

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lesrider

Sounds like an engineer is a healer class instead of the healer/Mage that enchantresses are. ...?

Correct -- but I've had my armor buffed by over 120 at once by them, and their heals are huge -- no way I'd run without one. Pot usage is zero too.
07-11-2011, 01:37 AM
Lesrider

Aww only reason I liked enchantresses so much is bc they could deal tons of damage and then heal. Not a fan of all-support classes.
07-11-2011, 01:41 AM
Pharcyde

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lesrider

Aww only reason I liked enchantresses so much is bc they could deal tons of damage and then heal. Not a fan of all-support classes.

I'm lovin Operative. It's insane DPS
07-11-2011, 02:23 AM
Diodge

The engineers damage and heals are dot style.

I dont know what you want to call a engineer./. heals/dot damage/stun
07-11-2011, 06:42 AM
Derajdefyre

Would one of you mind posting what the engineer abilities are? Do they get anything that heals the blue bar?
07-11-2011, 07:56 AM
Junside

Blue bar for mana, no there is no skill to regenerate it. There are no mana regen gear at the moment either.
07-11-2011, 01:12 PM
grayfox99

Quote:

Originally Posted by Junside

Blue bar for mana, no there is no skill to regenerate it. There are no mana regen gear at the moment either.

Actually the force field ability regens mana at a pretty good pace if it's maxed out. I agree with the majority of posts tho I thought the class would have higher DPS but after a lot of playing I can say that this class truly is a support class. The DoT's really only seem there for the occasional solo play, but in a full group you rarely even get two ticks off before the mob dies so while grouped you mainly spam transferrence, and your AE heal, and use forcefield on cooldown...altho I may drop forcefield because mana doesnt seem to be a problem at the moment.

One question I do have tho is why does all the green engineer gear have Dex and strength prominent on it??? I ahve white and yellow gear that adds intellect but upgrading to the neutronic green set for engineers usually removes mana and intellect and adds dex and strength, and that gear is class specific for engineers.
07-11-2011, 01:26 PM
Lesrider

Sounds like engineers will have a super-low kill count.
07-11-2011, 01:29 PM
Otukura

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lesrider

Sounds like engineers will have a super-low kill count.

Not at all... Jun goes in and combos 5/8ths of their HP, then I kill steal the rest when we've played together. But if all kills were distributed by total damage delt, Jun might have more. Or If I went in first and Jun went in second, it would be different.

EDIT: I'm a op, Jun is a eng.
07-11-2011, 01:42 PM
Diodge

Quote:

Originally Posted by grayfox99

One question I do have tho is why does all the green engineer gear have Dex and strength prominent on it??? I ahve white and yellow gear that adds intellect but upgrading to the neutronic green set for engineers usually removes mana and intellect and adds dex and strength, and that gear is class specific for engineers.

Have you seen the i gear?. I have a green 20 Ihelmet. 7int,1hit, 10health, 15mana, 32 armor...
07-11-2011, 01:50 PM
Derajdefyre

All gear for all classes seems to come in a version favoring each stat. So all engineer armor has three versions at least, each favoring a different stat. If you haven't found the int yet keep trying!
07-11-2011, 02:05 PM
grayfox99

No I haven't seen any "I" gear everyone has been telling me I need to be using Neutronic green stuff, I haven't seen any "I" stuff on the auction house or as a drop in any dungeons yet. But mos tof the class stuff i've seen is taking between 10-15 mana away, and adding 3 str and 6 dex, or in some cases removing up to 5 int.
07-11-2011, 02:26 PM
Otukura

Quote:

Originally Posted by grayfox99

No I haven't seen any "I" gear everyone has been telling me I need to be using Neutronic green stuff, I haven't seen any "I" stuff on the auction house or as a drop in any dungeons yet. But mos tof the class stuff i've seen is taking between 10-15 mana away, and adding 3 str and 6 dex, or in some cases removing up to 5 int.

Neutronic is a close second to the iStuff. There was an iHelmet for 500 credits this morning.
07-11-2011, 02:29 PM
Lesrider

No fair, you guys are getting iStuff while we iFolks can't even play :(
07-11-2011, 03:01 PM
Diodge

Most people here are just tradeing gear to each other for free.
07-11-2011, 03:21 PM
Junside

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otukura

Not at all... Jun goes in and combos 5/8ths of their HP, then I kill steal the rest when we've played together. But if all kills were distributed by total damage delt, Jun might have more. Or If I went in first and Jun went in second, it would be different.

EDIT: I'm a op, Jun is a eng.

Otu brought to my attention that I reached 5th in Engineer most kills leaderboard lol picture that
07-11-2011, 05:04 PM
Physiologic

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Originally Posted by Lesrider

No fair, you guys are getting iStuff while we iFolks can't even play :(

No worries...there is actually absolutely nothing that we can get, equipment-wise, that gives Beta players an advantage (monetary and itemized) over non-Beta players.
07-11-2011, 05:06 PM
Lesrider

I was actually just playing around. Bc of the name. Thought it was funny that you're getting iStuff as droiders ;)
07-11-2011, 05:30 PM
Physiologic

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lesrider

I was actually just playing around. Bc of the name. Thought it was funny that you're getting iStuff as droiders ;)

You should see the descriptions for some of the items......they really outdid themselves.
07-11-2011, 05:32 PM
Lesrider

Are there any on par with the ones from PL made from dead orphans?
07-11-2011, 05:37 PM
Physiologic

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lesrider

Are there any on par with the ones from PL made from dead orphans?

They are some of the most bizarre, random, funny, or witty quotes I've seen :p
07-11-2011, 05:38 PM
Lesrider

Quote:

Originally Posted by Physiologic

They are some of the most bizarre, random, funny, or witty quotes I've seen :p

Cool, will have to look out for them :)
07-11-2011, 05:52 PM
Diodge

Quote:

Originally Posted by Physiologic

They are some of the most bizarre, random, funny, or witty quotes I've seen :p

I agree
07-11-2011, 08:22 PM
Arterra

i found out just now i had no health pots on me, used them at some boss with a pretty bad group. didnt really need them at all for normal mob clearing lol...
07-15-2011, 09:54 AM
SknyAndy

I dont think we should worry too much about this. we don't know what skills we will have in the coming lvls. I'm sure the dev's have something up their sleeves that will help work all of this out. I think they learned a lot in PL and I'm sure they have used all that wisdom in SL.
07-15-2011, 11:00 AM
Silentarrow

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otukura

Not at all... Jun goes in and combos 5/8ths of their HP, then I kill steal the rest when we've played together. But if all kills were distributed by total damage delt, Jun might

I wish they did....
07-21-2011, 08:29 AM
Dosumn1978

Meh likey Meh engineer. Miner gets pwnted.
08-03-2011, 08:55 PM
Thegodofgreen

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How are skills dmg or heals calculated? Cause I just put 3 skill points into empathy and it's still reading +3 pics attached. Might be glitch?
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08-03-2011, 11:22 PM
Raulur

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Originally Posted by Thegodofgreen

How are skills dmg or heals calculated? Cause I just put 3 skill points into empathy and it's still reading +3 pics attached. Might be glitch?
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Empathy always gives 3 heals, but it heals more per time as you put more points into it. It's worth the skill points.