So im sure you guys at sts are aware of people running event lbs only to get bored or tired or broke with a week left or a few days.. And they just end up doing a Tie. Its meant to be a top 10 LB for ppl goingr for the gold tier prizes.. Why is there 18 rogues who will get a Top 10 prize?? 8 Extra ppeople will be running around with a vanity and precise jewel.. And thats just one class. That doesnt even make sense. As a company you are losing income cos people stop and decided to get lazy and tie. This is also unfair to those who work really hard only to be messed up by others doing ties, then being threatend to stop running. There needs to be a way to solve this tie issue going on in the future... Its been happening for years.
08-09-2018, 10:38 AM
Spheresome
They should be top 10 of each class permanently regardless of ties, so if people end up tying, the tied people should be differentiated by who has done the most runs and killed most bosses imo, this is ridiculous lol
08-09-2018, 10:59 AM
PatD
i find those ties a remarkable example of human kindness and coop, gz to all those 18 rogues!!!! :)
08-09-2018, 11:52 PM
Spices
Eh, the ruling is clear. Tied runner should be rewarded accordingly. It's like a sport, really. Or law. Changing the rule is possible for future event. Past tied runner will not be mad, I think. They will just say, "It's good while it lasted."
Congrats to winners!
08-10-2018, 02:12 AM
yofyo
cut it out! this is not the first event where people have made ties.
08-10-2018, 07:47 AM
PatD
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Originally Posted by avikk
Also a remarkable example of everything OP listed. GZ to devalued items and plat!
on the opposite bro, if no ties, in the middle of event only 10 player will still run for top 10, with ties it give hope to other players, and as for items values, they are untradable, so why so selfish??
08-10-2018, 08:07 AM
slaaayerrr
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Originally Posted by PatD
on the opposite bro, if no ties, in the middle of event only 10 player will still run for top 10, with ties it give hope to other players, and as for items values, they are untradable, so why so selfish??
lb at event is competition but not agreement, ties for nabs
08-10-2018, 09:36 AM
PostNoob
Top 10 is top 10, not 15/20.
First one to get the "tied" placement would get the reward of owning that number .
Pretty soon this is going to get exploited and changed, or wait..
08-10-2018, 11:25 AM
flexible
Competition on this event was non existing, I remember having nearly double of points on some previous events compared to some top 10 players on this event and i was placed around 14-16 place. Some players rushed first 4-5 days during this event and just stopped because they were safe until the end due so many ties lol right !
08-10-2018, 12:14 PM
Shubham
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Originally Posted by PatD
on the opposite bro, if no ties, in the middle of event only 10 player will still run for top 10, with ties it give hope to other players, and as for items values, they are untradable, so why so selfish??
Is not selfish is unfair to those who runs 200k points all day n night n a 70k point ppl still gets wt he gets ..
08-10-2018, 12:17 PM
Shubham
There should be a limitation to tie maybe 2 or 4 ppl max apart top 10 so the first to make tie secures the spot ..if the other person wants it so bad keep running till the event ends
08-10-2018, 01:00 PM
Kakashis
yes, agreed, there should be a cap on how many are given out.
08-10-2018, 01:20 PM
PatD
Very easy to fix then, next event get 10 players of each class who don't like ties and run lb!! :P
08-10-2018, 01:37 PM
Kaaziii
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Originally Posted by PostNoob
Top 10 is top 10, not 15/20.
First one to get the "tied" placement would get the reward of owning that number .
Pretty soon this is going to get exploited and changed, or wait..
Agreed...
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Originally Posted by avikk
Hopefully it will be the last
Yes I hope so..
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08-10-2018, 10:18 PM
yofyo
Quote:
Originally Posted by slaaayerrr
lb at event is competition but not agreement, ties for nabs
Please elaborate on the "competition" part
Event is about who has the most gold not about a competition, lets be real the person who has more gold has the upper hand on events.
I ran 4 days straight with only 6 hours of sleep and got about 60k pts or so while someone in guild was at 30k pts running only dolls, in the end he farmed the whole event using dolls. please calculate 140k pts worth of dolls and you will see that there is no competition it is all about who has the most gold.
if you do decide to do these calculations doll runs are 109 pts, in a party of 4 that is about 436 pts not including the bosses you get such as helena, ursoth etc
lets say you run 50 dolls and you bought at 300k each that would cost 15m gold, you would have between 25k-27k pts depending on which boss you get. that guy who only ran dolls his final points was 140k so calculate yourself about how much gold he spent on that event before you come here and talk about competition
bear in mind dolls are only obtained when you stock from last year or if you have bought its not plat purchased, idk where that guy gets the energies in terms of plat or gold, all i know is that he spent ALOT, again its not a competition in these events it is who ever has the most gold
08-10-2018, 10:58 PM
PostNoob
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Originally Posted by yofyo
Please elaborate on the "competition" part
Event is about who has the most gold not about a competition, lets be real the person who has more gold has the upper hand on events.
I ran 4 days straight with only 6 hours of sleep and got about 60k pts or so while someone in guild was at 30k pts running only dolls, in the end he farmed the whole event using dolls. please calculate 140k pts worth of dolls and you will see that there is no competition it is all about who has the most gold.
if you do decide to do these calculations doll runs are 109 pts, in a party of 4 that is about 436 pts not including the bosses you get such as helena, ursoth etc
lets say you run 50 dolls and you bought at 300k each that would cost 15m gold, you would have between 25k-27k pts depending on which boss you get. that guy who only ran dolls his final points was 140k so calculate yourself about how much gold he spent on that event before you come here and talk about competition
bear in mind dolls are only obtained when you stock from last year or if you have bought its not plat purchased, idk where that guy gets the energies in terms of plat or gold, all i know is that he spent ALOT, again its not a competition in these events it is who ever has the most gold
Someones triggered.
In your own opinion, i could safely say that even that situation would be considered a "competition" of who has more gold.
Also, dolls can be completely free, your not forced to hoard or buy from cs. Good luck looting as many as you said but my statements stand true.
08-11-2018, 01:58 AM
yofyo
Quote:
Originally Posted by PostNoob
Someones triggered.
In your own opinion, i could safely say that even that situation would be considered a "competition" of who has more gold.
Also, dolls can be completely free, your not forced to hoard or buy from cs. Good luck looting as many as you said but my statements stand true.
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!
I dont even know where to begin with this non sense of yours, seriously! just stop!
08-11-2018, 04:42 AM
Shubham
Quote:
Originally Posted by yofyo
Please elaborate on the "competition" part
Event is about who has the most gold not about a competition, lets be real the person who has more gold has the upper hand on events.
I ran 4 days straight with only 6 hours of sleep and got about 60k pts or so while someone in guild was at 30k pts running only dolls, in the end he farmed the whole event using dolls. please calculate 140k pts worth of dolls and you will see that there is no competition it is all about who has the most gold.
if you do decide to do these calculations doll runs are 109 pts, in a party of 4 that is about 436 pts not including the bosses you get such as helena, ursoth etc
lets say you run 50 dolls and you bought at 300k each that would cost 15m gold, you would have between 25k-27k pts depending on which boss you get. that guy who only ran dolls his final points was 140k so calculate yourself about how much gold he spent on that event before you come here and talk about competition
bear in mind dolls are only obtained when you stock from last year or if you have bought its not plat purchased, idk where that guy gets the energies in terms of plat or gold, all i know is that he spent ALOT, again its not a competition in these events it is who ever has the most gold
Now this is lol u cant complain in everything ..its a event ppl will run as they want .no one ever said u to not used dolls ..apart this the events are very competitive n is fun ..
08-11-2018, 05:51 AM
yofyo
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Originally Posted by Shubham
Now this is lol u cant complain in everything ..its a event ppl will run as they want .no one ever said u to not used dolls ..apart this the events are very competitive n is fun ..
you see me complaining?
i am stating facts in terms of how this game is now a days
08-11-2018, 06:01 AM
yofyo
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Originally Posted by avikk
One thing I've learned over the years is you gotta spend gold to make gold.
I walked away with quite a few vanities(3 daggers b2b2b, yessir, even called them out, took clips will post if people want me to :3), many burn locks which are slowly going up in price due to the rarity of mireguard artifacts, quite a few Eggs and most of the runs I funded were from drops I received from the f2p-chests. This Elondrian event was probably my 3rd favourite nott just coz the loot but the people I connected with.
I saw quite a few people loot two vanities with just one doll, of course they were drier than the Saharan Desert after. One friend from guild even walked away with two vanity weapons from his first doll, which peturbed one of my friends who was running doll for a loss. So yes luck has a role to play in this, literally, people weren't using reroll, when they should've been.
You say its nott a competition because it's about gold? How many event Lbs have you run?
Gold is only a small part of events, you require a support system in the form of friends/guildies, you require the gear and the skill to know what you're doing and most importantly you need time. Time is such a crucial factor for events. Of course these ties have made sure time is less of a factor than the other two.
Even if competitions were only about gold(which they are Nott), are we nott working hard for that gold? Do we nott spend time, energy and RL money(in some cases) to accumulate the gold to get our just LB rewards? Is it nott similiar to how Olympic athletes' spend their time, energy and capital to gain muscles, to gain skills that they then showcase at the podium? What would you have them do?
How would it sound like if someone was to walk up to Michael Phelps and say "No No No, this is unfair you should keep your muscles, genes and skills that you've honed over the past years out of the swimming pool before you dive in. This isn't fair to the others who lack the same genes as you or who haven't shown the same amount of dedication and motivation as you."?
Honestly?
I dont know why it matters how many events i have run for lb, that is just irrelevant.
but if you really think that it is a competition to run for top LB then i wish you luck on the next event.
Events is easy as long as you have the funds to keep going in terms of supplying energy and what ever item gives you more points for advantage.
you wont make it on top 10 by running on free energy you loot and running from free dolls thats just absurd
Seems like some of you need a reality check
08-11-2018, 06:54 AM
PostNoob
Quote:
Originally Posted by yofyo
you see me complaining?
i am stating facts in terms of how this game is now a days
We understand your mad because someone had more gold to waste than you, and proved it with the experience you mentioned on the first page.
At this point your just taking it out on anyone here you can. Maybe if you didnt have such a personal issue with this specific event, you could be more objective.
You got triggered by the word competition, and here we are now. Just stating facts. Also i have the assumption you or some1 close to you tied on lb this event.
08-11-2018, 08:30 AM
Rauitri
I agree with the cap of number of ties, as it will give some considerations.
Pros:
Problem with the #10 is that many want them. There was a case that #10 had 130k pts, #11 has 128k, and #12 has 115k pts. You can see that how the #11 wanted the #10 reward as much as how the #10 sees it.
The player at #11 would try to convince the #10 to have a tie as both nearly spent the same effort. In the end both will benefit from the reward.
Point of the ties is for consideration.
Don't forget that people are encouraged to keep running #10 due to this, as they have friends that will let them tie.
Cons:
We all know there are numerous cases that people suddenly break ties last minute. It really hurts, makes drama, arguements and threatens to leave game. That is why some dont like ties.
Another thing is that regular lb runners are dependent of the ties, thats why if you notice, we see some same name ties.
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08-11-2018, 02:38 PM
yofyo
Quote:
Originally Posted by PostNoob
We understand your mad because someone had more gold to waste than you, and proved it with the experience you mentioned on the first page.
At this point your just taking it out on anyone here you can. Maybe if you didnt have such a personal issue with this specific event, you could be more objective.
You got triggered by the word competition, and here we are now. Just stating facts. Also i have the assumption you or some1 close to you tied on lb this event.
idk what your issue is but theres no need to insinuate
08-11-2018, 02:57 PM
Rogueaustin
Lol if people want to tie let them it doesn't hurt in anyone irl so why your u guys complaining also ties won't stop so let them happen
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08-11-2018, 11:36 PM
Verbie
In the past tying was the difference in making gold vs making nothing. Since the top 10 LB prizes are UNTRADEABLE by popular demand it's probably not going to change now.
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08-12-2018, 06:56 AM
Shubham
Quote:
Originally Posted by yofyo
you see me complaining?
i am stating facts in terms of how this game is now a days
It has been same as it was earlier in terms of event .i guess ur new to it so ur not used to it .the person sepnding gold on dolls obviously wants it more den u..u say the fact he used dolls might even see the fact he spend more den you much more? Apart wt u did is just farm saved ur gold n wanted to be a winner?.if u wsnt something work for it dats competition .all i see is u crying .sts brought dolls in the first place coz it made easier points .u had ur chance of using it u didnt stop complaining.
08-12-2018, 09:57 PM
yofyo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shubham
It has been same as it was earlier in terms of event .i guess ur new to it so ur not used to it .the person sepnding gold on dolls obviously wants it more den u..u say the fact he used dolls might even see the fact he spend more den you much more? Apart wt u did is just farm saved ur gold n wanted to be a winner?.if u wsnt something work for it dats competition .all i see is u crying .sts brought dolls in the first place coz it made easier points .u had ur chance of using it u didnt stop complaining.
please show me proof as to where i started crying about the use of dolls because i could not afford to run dolls
I stated my experience in running ursoth event to top 10, and made a fact that in any event held by arcane legends if you want top 10 its all about having the most gold. hence the reason i said "IT IS NOT A COMPETITION". if you have 200m use it it will be guaranteed top 10, again not a competition
08-13-2018, 03:27 AM
Blazerland
Having tons of gold is not a guarantee for top 10. Sure it is an important factor. If you wanna be on top but dont have tons of time to play you spend more gold. On the other hand if you have plenty of time to play you dont have to spend as much coz you can for things like energy essences. I say having the gold is not a guarantee coz there are times you have energy or doll yet you cant find a party to run with. There is more just to having the gold. You need a good support system too.
Regarding the main topic of this thread, I personally dont like ties. I consider it a manipulation and i do wish something is done about this. Ive done tons of LB and agreed to tie once and didnt like it,why? Simple because it somehow takes out the fun for me. I cant run whenever i want to coz i have to wait for the person who is tied with me so we can run together.
I think one major factor people opt to tie though is they dont wanna spend more money running the rest of the event which i somehow understand. Ties has caused so much drama specially the previous events (bla bla bla broke the tie last minute).
08-13-2018, 06:51 AM
QuaseT
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Originally Posted by Blazerland
Having tons of gold is not a guarantee for top 10. Sure it is an important factor. If you wanna be on top but dont have tons of time to play you spend more gold. On the other hand if you have plenty of time to play you dont have to spend as much coz you can for things like energy essences. I say having the gold is not a guarantee coz there are times you have energy or doll yet you cant find a party to run with. There is more just to having the gold. You need a good support system too.
Regarding the main topic of this thread, I personally dont like ties. I consider it a manipulation and i do wish something is done about this. Ive done tons of LB and agreed to tie once and didnt like it,why? Simple because it somehow takes out the fun for me. I cant run whenever i want to coz i have to wait for the person who is tied with me so we can run together.
I think one major factor people opt to tie though is they dont wanna spend more money running the rest of the event which i somehow understand. Ties has caused so much drama specially the previous events (bla bla bla broke the tie last minute).
Never did a tie and wont ever do that. If i go for lb i wanna be better than the others and not same. All or nothing >.<
08-13-2018, 08:51 AM
Kakashis
Are the vanities tradable?
08-13-2018, 07:36 PM
Verbie
No.
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Originally Posted by Kakashis
Are the vanities tradable?
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08-13-2018, 07:51 PM
Dadansn
See,by that logic,if everyone only used only 1 energy in the next event,we would ALL be on the lb,and would get the ALL rewards.
Shouldn't we do that then?
08-14-2018, 07:31 AM
Rauitri
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Originally Posted by Dadansn
See,by that logic,if everyone only used only 1 energy in the next event,we would ALL be on the lb,and would get the ALL rewards.
Shouldn't we do that then?
Slight correction. Only 50 people in each class will get the top 10 reward, and not everyone. As the LB is only capable of giving away rewards to 50 people each class, regardless of the ties.
If you think about it, yes there is a cap in ties, which is upto the other 49 people with the same points.
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08-15-2018, 02:00 AM
shadowronn
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Originally Posted by avikk
You know what's absurd?
You commenting on something without proper knowledge and/or experience about said somethings.
You ask "why it matters how many events i have run for lb", isn't this conversation literally about event LB's? that is why it's relevenat.
/smh
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08-16-2018, 07:43 PM
EynSeren
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Originally Posted by PatD
i find those ties a remarkable example of human kindness and coop, gz to all those 18 rogues!!!! :)
