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I really want to know if raffles are allowed, im intrested in doing one too (No joke) since i know "Gambling" is against terms and conditions.
If sts can answer that would be awesome!
Ty
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I don't think so, if it says it on the ToS I wouldn't do it as it can lead to a permanent ban for violating their ToS.
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There's no gambling tho since winners have been choosen before it started lol
To those entering it is considered gambling, gambling is spending money with the chance of making more money. So yes raffles are considered gambling.Quote:
Originally Posted by synoptix
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My opinion is don't do it !! There is other ways to enjoy game and get money , etc me,my guild members always looking for man/woman for evg event runs and so on ..
This is game which children also play , furthermore gambling is ToS breaking , i would not do it on your place , and also many threads has been started since last few days about this .. Reminder ~~ STS see everything we do , every skill we use ,every msg we send
Don't do risky staff enjoy and play game (this ain't casino,slots)
If u so much about gambling (buy platinums and gamble on event locks) got me easy 200mil in lovecraft and lunar year of ox !!!
So long man and good luck !
No official statement from sts yet. And this raffle things started by marsu has been a few days already.
So we can assume its allowed by now.
Yes, i wanna try it too he made 180m in 1hr organizing 100m raffle 4m each ticket and accumulated 70 tickets. I cant do that in evg. I hope sts will answer im eager to host one now.
Good idea bro!!Quote:
Originally Posted by dynastygaming
yep +1Quote:
Originally Posted by dynastygaming
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+1 seems funQuote:
Originally Posted by dynastygaming
isnt mr.spendalot considered gambling too? hmm
Nah it's part of the game so what is raffle implemented in the game?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tookyo
So pathetic how ppl grovel over imaginary money..
Raffles are not sanctioned by STS - and you risk being scammed if you participate. If you believe that you have been exploited by a group offering a raffle payout, please submit a ticket to CS. We will be dealing with these issues in the coming days. Bans are likely.
4 people I personally know lost the raffle held by exile and marsuu and were ranting for a while and quit game.
Really it's a simple question.
There are people who sell drugs.Drugs are addictive like raffle promising huge money.
So are the drug dealers going unpunished?
You're doing more harm to the society than not and also amassing...and I mean it AMASSING 2X the money as profit and giving out awakened items as to avoid your selling .
Please stop and my friends did report you before quitting.
Like Cinco said You're doing it on Your own risk...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cinco
My probably Devs opinion is DON'T DO IT !!
Ye if it is allowed, why they removed some guy 1b raffle off forums?
Threads like those quickly escalate into unwanted drama, there have already been so many threads on raffle, just a matter of time for sts to close or remove all of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by gobbels
Bottom Line - Marsuu and Exile are scammers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cinco
I smell incoming tickets
Edit: https://www.spacetimestudios.com/sho...krip-1b-raffle
This is some juicy stuff *sips tea*
You literally can’t do nothing for this community everything you guys stated isn’t hidden and both host didn’t deny anything about the raffles and you guys literally see what they do on the stream how is anything a scam? How giving someone a chance to win millions a scam?
These dudes are literally depress because of these allegations Nd really at a point of giving up on this game. I feel like if people can’t do certain things like others or obtain anything they just going to bring hate and jealousy. They literally even try to do multiple winners because of the hate certain people were giving because one person getting all the winnings.
You guys could say friends or alts are getting the prizes all you want but developers will know because the streams are proof and if they need to know if any winners are fake account they have the power to check the IPS/Chat logs.
The fact that you guys call exile a scammer someone who give millions away without raffles majority of his content is just sad that you guys just target this man[emoji35]
#PVO#Justice
SMH...
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As long as the hosts are being transparent about everything; such as elaborating the mechanics, details and disclaimers, then there is no problem Knowing what is advertised becomes your call whether to engage or not.
If you feel cheated, then the customer service is there.
But just make sure you have receipts on your end to back up your doubt, and not bombard the forums with these repetitive threads that players fill with false accusations and defamation narratives.
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you know the point is not the host getting an alt acc and make it win, since its on livestream and its quite unlikely. The point is he is organizing a derby by enriching from others money which usually fish smaller players because they are enticed on huge money, dont get me wrong if they werent new they woudnt give their personal items like what u see most in their raffle livestream, they give ebon, desire set, endless set, they dont even have pure. And the host? he is doing a 100m raffle but still collecting up to 300m, whats that? he profit 200m easily? gullible others? okay u may say " no, no gun was pointed on them to buy a ticket" then why enrich? whats the purpose of the raffle? clearly the purpose is the host to earn millions of profit very easy organizing a derby and enriching from it. If he wants to make all happy with good intentions, the raffle prizes should come from his own pocket and if doing raffle when reached the amount of raffle prize, the raffle should start immediately, e.g 100m is reach bought in tickets then start no more asking for another tickets (though I personally disagree on whole raffle thing buying of tickets ). The concept is clear gambling should not be allowed and perpetrated by players. The devs have spendalot okay? but its petty gamble and is safe and secure, no other players/host benefitting from it. If in your logic this raffle gambling is considered then it can be considered a haven for the gold buyers etc. e.g Huge trades will be excused as "I won in pvp yes give me my 500m, 1b etc" Think..Quote:
Originally Posted by Ilove_Poopoo
My take is the backlash the hosts are receiving, despite them being transparent. I'm viewing this in a logical standpoint.Quote:
Originally Posted by dynastygaming
The morality of this raffle, as you've implied, is a different matter and has nothing to do, or to add in my initial post.
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what do you expect?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ilove_Poopoo
You must be unbiased and neutral, to give off better judgement with no strings attached..Quote:
Originally Posted by dynastygaming
To discern whether this raffle is bad or good, then yes I agree that this commissioned raffle is bad, and is expected to be frowned upon.
However, In terms of logical thinking, no, they don't deserve being defamed or falsely accused just because they profit from this, that's a personal attack fallacy. All the details were given with full transparency, the rest is unnecessary drama. Take care.
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Yeah they never hide that they made profit from these raffles? Someone must not have watch the stream to know this and I guess your one of them [emoji848]Everything you stated is just ignorance Nd you need to understand people have feelings especially when someone hasn’t done anything wrong. Your just one of those guys who didn’t win or just trying to start drama.Quote:
Originally Posted by dynastygaming
Once again if developers want to investigate the situation they have all the streams to look back on and they can IP track all these “alts” you claim won or these “friends” you stated with chat logs they can back track on. Every ticket has its price if someone choose to participate no one forces them to do it and the people who are doing the raffle inform about how the raffle works...
These individuals have a large platform and have a reputation to hold but only if you knew how these guys felt seeing all the negative things you guys are saying would make you apologize for the things your saying about these guys. The part that pisses me off that we could never have anything good because someone always have to ruin it. I guess people pockets is your business now hope you enjoy this moment[emoji106]
SMH
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It's actually because we're a community that we can make a change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roblox
The host didn't deny that he hosted such an event, granted. Yet blatantly refuses to say that he was hosting it with the sole intent of making profit, which was concerningly obvious.
On the contrary, these allegations don't fall under false grounds, putting it aside under such a bias would make it a logical fallacy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roblox
Oh, and also
Take this with a hint of salt, there are always 2 sides to a story as there are driven motives to an action. None of these were in any way bogus.Quote:
Originally Posted by QuaseT
Going by the recent threads that have made it in the forum, safe to say that said people have been proven guilty through their own actions.
-Resulting this point of your argument in one word, irrelevant.
But I'll hold it since I love to make a few rebuttals on your future remarks.
This is related to point 1 of the argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roblox
Said allegations have come to the surface to defend said host.
Unknowingly (or was it intentional?) revealing their correlation to said host, making it rather, hard to contemplate. As we all know, it is the internet.
And frankly, through the recent forum drama there seems to be a thin veil casted upon the event.
Not too shabby but if even the majority of the audience has come to voice their minds then doesn't it say smth, mmm no?
Their event was hosted in such a way that I would describe it as non-utilitarian.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roblox
The aim was making content, great.
Yet the execution that was made expresses such a bad light on itself and frowned upon by the community.
It might as well backfire, mmm no?
"My actions have consequences? Oh no"Quote:
Originally Posted by Roblox
So anyway....
Who was really playing the victim card all along.
Aside the pros and cons surely the devs has depicted and concured on several cases and bans are on their way.
At least, this is to buy time along the pressure of the masses.
Lets see how this plays out.
Lets not talk about that gnarl drama, which reminds me that mage... uhh.. Una? the guy that scammed Blizzmiz/Test? Oh yea...Quote:
Originally Posted by Roblox
And there goes your credibility
AL revolution petition, time for a movement folks..
*sips tea*
God help your soul mate I will no longer continue this with your ignorance.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsilentninjax
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My arguments were put aside unto a term of ignorance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roblox
Constructive criticism doesn't sit well with ya? say no more. I gotchu.
Proving my point further,
That reminds me of a proverb, The pot calling the cattle black? ah yes that's it.
But then again...
We live in a society
- I rest my case*
*Of course until said person (or acquaintances?) can come with a relevant rebuttal that is.
Honestly mate the only thing you're eager to do is start drama, talking of TOS pretty sure calling out people by IGN wasn't allowed but hey we only bring up the TOS when its in our favour.Quote:
Originally Posted by dynastygaming
Secondly I'd love to see an attempt at hosting a raffle which you make sound so easy lol.
Finally calling someone a scammer for doing a raffle where everything is thoroughly explained & fair mechanics are used to pick the winners (I even personally went through the list of names so everyone could see their names been entered on: https://wheelofnames.com)
The only thing I can see that is being moaned about is the profit making of the hosts which was never denied at any point. So I really don't know what you are blabbering about?
If you wouldn't mind sharing what exactly your concerns are regarding this raffle that was hosted apart from the mentioned above it would help me and everyone else if your responses are out of ignorance or bliss?
exactly, they disclosing their profits and should they be exonerated by that? thats blatant! and why keep insisting on alts? I clearly said that i doubt they making their alts to win because its livestream so unlikely. Again the point organizing a 100m raffle and collecting 300m. Anyone in any logic knows what is it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roblox
"100m raffle" then goes to collect 300m. that speaks for itself mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by marsu4u
Lol, once again why are your eyes on another man pockets? That’s a female trait homie. Now stop being a spoiled orange.Quote:
Originally Posted by dynastygaming
Like why is it even your business nothing they stated was a top secret and like I said if you watch the stream you would know this.
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"100m raffle" then goes to collect 300m. you rebutted air buddy and tried to be adhominem. idk how you are excusing that it is live. By your logic if ill kill someone, I should pre announce it first then after that since it was announced am I exonerated? Wrong is wrong live or discreet wrong is wrong. Do you get me right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Roblox
Dude what? How can you compare death to a raffle?[emoji23] I know for sure they didn’t held a gun to anyone head to join the raffle[emoji24]Quote:
Originally Posted by dynastygaming
Be a mature about the situation and stop watching another’s man pocket. Starting to think you do this in the real world [emoji51]
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you really have nothing to rebutt :) "100m raffle" then goes to collect 300m, I can say this all day. When its wrong I wouldnt be blindshutted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roblox
At this point you looking for attention and won’t be getting anymore. Don’t support ignorance and jealous people have a great day by your self.Quote:
Originally Posted by dynastygaming
Quit being a spoiled orange[emoji845]
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you never made any sense and cant argue :). Have a great day ahead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roblox
Theyre depressed because they cant make 100m+ for themselves by doing essentially nothing? Setting up a raffle even a kid can do? Now they have to merch or farm to get gold and thats why they're depressed? What a joke