Too hard to sell anything.

Is it just me or is it too hard to sell anything? I feel like there isn't enough gold in the economy right now so no one is buying anything. Because no one is buying anything everyone is just getting bored. Also very hard for lots of players to get max lvl gear when there is no gold to get it with. I hate to complain but im having a hard time selling things myself and if I can't sell anything then I cant buy anything... I love this game but its starting to get boring because of this problem. I hope its fixed by having some sort of gold event very soon.

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Is it just me or is it too hard to sell anything? I feel like there isn't enough gold in the economy right now so no one is buying anything. Because no one is buying anything everyone is just getting bored. Also very hard for lots of players to get max lvl gear when there is no gold to get it with. I hate to complain but im having a hard time selling things myself and if I can't sell anything then I cant buy anything... I love this game but its starting to get boring because of this problem. I hope its fixed by having some sort of gold event very soon.

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Couple months ago problem was to much gold, now its not enough gold xD some people can't be satisfied I guess.

I remember people complaining about high gold inflation [emoji53]

I would suggest that devs do some kind of a gold sink get prices into there fair range again.

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Is it just me or is it too hard to sell anything? I feel like there isn't enough gold in the economy right now so no one is buying anything. Because no one is buying anything everyone is just getting bored. Also very hard for lots of players to get max lvl gear when there is no gold to get it with. I hate to complain but im having a hard time selling things myself and if I can't sell anything then I cant buy anything... I love this game but its starting to get boring because of this problem. I hope its fixed by having some sort of gold event very soon.

-Grimthewar

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thats weird,if you make a graph the amount of gold relative to the amount of products and player are imbalance.Probably it has something to do with the players numbers instead of the gold

hard to sell when selling it at high price

No, There is much gold in circulation because of gold loot awakenings. The problem is just that the number of players significantly decreases. :(

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No, There is much gold in circulation because of gold loot awakenings. The problem is just that the number of players significantly decreases. :(

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Its gonna be a rough couple of months if you plan on selling anything cosmetic. Remember we also have awakening event right around the corner.

Elite Sunken I yield at least 2.5m in a decent team and up to 4m an hour. Just as good as DM, except this is open 24/7. I suppose a lot of people haven't tried it yet.

Yes, everything is dropping right now, because the majority of people stopped gold farming after nerfing DM, thinking it was all over.

I anticipate even higher prices in the coming months. The release of arcane gears, as well as the upcoming awakening event, will make things much easier, and more people will participate.

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selling of an items depends on many factors ,you can't just blame it on the economy .





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Elite Sunken I yield at least 2.5m in a decent team and up to 4m an hour. Just as good as DM, except this is open 24/7. I suppose a lot of people haven't tried it yet.

Yes, everything is dropping right now, because the majority of people stopped gold farming after nerfing DM, thinking it was all over.

I anticipate even higher prices in the coming months. The release of arcane gears, as well as the upcoming awakening event, will make things much easier, and more people will participate.

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yes ,i agree on the part where you said many haven't tried it yet . literally those who know how to run the map making banks everyday .



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Is it just me or is it too hard to sell anything? I feel like there isn't enough gold in the economy right now so no one is buying anything. Because no one is buying anything everyone is just getting bored. Also very hard for lots of players to get max lvl gear when there is no gold to get it with. I hate to complain but im having a hard time selling things myself and if I can't sell anything then I cant buy anything... I love this game but its starting to get boring because of this problem. I hope its fixed by having some sort of gold event very soon.

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This is what happens when the main gold circulators are made angry. They stop circulating and it trickles down all the way to the level 1 players.

The reason for this is because everyone had loads of gold a few months ago then we started getting hit with events where we are supposed to hoard stuff and so we hoarded stuff and now most don't have a lot of gold. Easter we hoarded eggs, most events after easter we hoarded vanities, Awakening event is around the corner so no one wants gears, Goblin is tomorrow so people are going to be buying loads of cheap speed sets.
Winter - Market is flooded with gold.
Spring - Market is getting many new pets and vanities. Gold is a bit less flooded.
Summer - Market is dry, there are a lot of things being hoarded.
Late Summer / Fall - Market uprise, item prices increase as we anticipated. Usually a gold event is brought up or a new way of making gold faster is added.

Its even like this in real life. Except for those gas prices.

when they nerf the golddrop in dm, started to drop the number of goldfarmer players they switch merch and hoard the items or hunt rare boss.

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Tbh running it over and over it’s hard not to be bored xd

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No, There is much gold in circulation because of gold loot awakenings. The problem is just that the number of players significantly decreases. :(

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Ye players reducing slowly , hence market is at it's lows, hope devs do something to make the economy active again , otherwise the game is on its way to die.

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Elite Sunken I yield at least 2.5m in a decent team and up to 4m an hour. Just as good as DM, except this is open 24/7. I suppose a lot of people haven't tried it yet.

Yes, everything is dropping right now, because the majority of people stopped gold farming after nerfing DM, thinking it was all over.

I anticipate even higher prices in the coming months. The release of arcane gears, as well as the upcoming awakening event, will make things much easier, and more people will participate.

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I tried to convince many players to farm gold at the elite sunken but they said they are borred to run there so they only run on event only,😢😢😢

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Tbh running it over and over it’s hard not to be bored xd

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Idk just they said better to sell their goldloot set switch to ms awake w8 till next event comes.😢😢😢

Tbh if stuff doesn't sell in auction at it's normal prices , then it's a major indicator of the game dieing.

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Bro, it's basic economics. Supply and Demand.

People want gold to buy awakening gems, so everybody is trying to sell stuff at the same time and not many people are buying so prices are tanking on everything. With regards to auras, those are tanking even more because the market has been flooded with tons of new auras lately so the supply is even greater on top of everyone selling.

It has always been like this over the last years and the emergence of AL. Don't know why so many are still surprised by how hard the prices fluctuate when new stuff gets added and older stuff replaced with better gear.

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The reason for this is because everyone had loads of gold a few months ago then we started getting hit with events where we are supposed to hoard stuff and so we hoarded stuff and now most don't have a lot of gold. Easter we hoarded eggs, most events after easter we hoarded vanities, Awakening event is around the corner so no one wants gears, Goblin is tomorrow so people are going to be buying loads of cheap speed sets.
Winter - Market is flooded with gold.
Spring - Market is getting many new pets and vanities. Gold is a bit less flooded.
Summer - Market is dry, there are a lot of things being hoarded.
Late Summer / Fall - Market uprise, item prices increase as we anticipated. Usually a gold event is brought up or a new way of making gold faster is added.

Its even like this in real life. Except for those gas prices.

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then your crops come in, you sell um at the mill and buy Ma & Pa Christmas presents.

There is an uncertanty in the game right now. The people that seem to have alot of gold usually stash away a savings account or what others like to call " hoarding stuff." ...I would use the gold I had on hand and if I really wanted or needed something i would sparingly pull from my savings and sell something for the gold I needed... But now we never know if what we have stashed is going to be re released or what ever making it worthless or something worthless is going to be a big hit.

I know people are going to say this event only happens one time per year but that doesnt stop things from being thrown in the store for plat sale anytime of the year. Its making less and less on hand gold to be moved around which in turn is making things harder and harder to sell (or buy.)

The staff that was re released with the yellow (orange) founder set recently I had called a natural selection staff. Before this event I sold it for 20m to a friend (Discount price.) If I had kept it then it would have been worthless. (Sorry my friend. I had no idea.)

Anyways... with uncertainty in the air people just arent making many moves or any moves at all, which is terrible for the economy. The people that want things to be readily available that are super hard to find dont realize that once their white whale or unicorn is everywhere it no longer holds the same "Magical feel" it once had. One of the funnest things in the game is wishing for something that seems so far out of reach and the search for it. take that away and people get bored quick with it when they get it. The Para arura is a perfect example.

My para is the real deal and yes its inserted into a ((Now) worthless lvl 30 amulet but my stats are so strong that it doesnt effect me at all to wear it all the time and it has the bluè firebugs and i can wear it with my other arura. much better than the re release arura. imo....

I know prices can change at any given moment but as long as there is no stability at all in item value then we will continue to see low buys & Low sales. justs a fact.

Deep marsh got nerfed and sunken is boring, less people gold farming = less people willing to buy expensive stuff. That and we don't know when arc gears are being released so yes, people are uncertain about useful gear. Most players don't wanna buy an artifact for 40m when a new one could be right around the corner.

The answer to all this: players are leaving, the filthy richies that keep increasing the prices can no longer do their work so the prices of every item will decrease, vanities have decreased significantly lately.

Reading too much into this. Look at the events, its not much deeper than that.

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Elite Sunken I yield at least 2.5m in a decent team and up to 4m an hour. Just as good as DM, except this is open 24/7. I suppose a lot of people haven't tried it yet.

Yes, everything is dropping right now, because the majority of people stopped gold farming after nerfing DM, thinking it was all over.

I anticipate even higher prices in the coming months. The release of arcane gears, as well as the upcoming awakening event, will make things much easier, and more people will participate.

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I need to answer for that post i have 800% gl and i have like 2m+ with good team there. In dm i had much more :/ also this map is hard you need to wear expensive items and warrior in team to make reasonable runs. In dm we had 5 bosses there is just one :/ the only one advantage of this map its 24/7 but how long we can grind? Im bored after 2 hours really... I was able to run dm or evg by 10 hours and it was fun for me.

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I need to answer for that post i have 800% gl and i have like 2m+ with good team there. In dm i had much more :/ also this map is hard you need to wear expensive items and warrior in team to make reasonable runs. In dm we had 5 bosses there is just one :/ the only one advantage of this map its 24/7 but how long we can grind? Im bored after 2 hours really... I was able to run dm or evg by 10 hours and it was fun for me.

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This is what i feel too while running at esf, I miss the time we wait for dm to open then exite to run party even in even the low geared player on random can farm there and they got the gold to buy something they need or something they want to test the items and then sell it if they are not satisfied, buy and sell at cs and to paradise pier continues to flow.

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I need to answer for that post i have 800% gl and i have like 2m+ with good team there. In dm i had much more :/ also this map is hard you need to wear expensive items and warrior in team to make reasonable runs. In dm we had 5 bosses there is just one :/ the only one advantage of this map its 24/7 but how long we can grind? Im bored after 2 hours really... I was able to run dm or evg by 10 hours and it was fun for me.

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The quickest teams also needed one tank for DM and EvG.

Note that you were running Evg and DM with gears from future expansions. We currently don't have any Lv81 arcanes, yet we're capable of earning 2-4m/hr.

Have you tried farming gold in DM back in 2018 with just mire sets/Ebon weapons? They had it much worse relative to what we're earning with current gears.

Elite Sunken is more fun since it requires more skill and team coordination to efficiently kill the mini's and bosses.

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Too many items are being released at once, a flooded market. Tooo many options to choose from makes me aarrrrgggg.

Idk if it's just me but
DM was boring and EVG was too long.
I like ESF because it's short, quick, open 24/7 and still drops decent amount of gold.

Gold sink:


That would not solve the problem. The problem has always been the gold looting system. It was a good idea at first but not anymore... There is a huge gap between players. 80% of players own 20% of the wealth and 20% of players own 80% of the wealth. Numbers are just for imagination. These 20% of the players, THEY DO REALLY affect the market a lot.

Some people do not even have a chance to get a gold loot set. Mostly, it is the new guys.

1. Can they farm elite locks? - They can, but how long till they get bored?
2. Can they make a lot of gold from events? - They can but they don't know how.
3. Can they make money from merching? - Huh? They are newbies...
4. Can they make money from free platinum offers? - They can but they don't know what to spend it for. And at first, they would have to love the game in order to even want to explore what the game has to offer.

The point is - it might be fair. The more you play the more you have. Nothing is ever supposed to be easy. But there really is a huge gap. Game is supposed to be fun. Sometimes this game really reminds me of reality I am trying to escape for a while. But all I really see is a reflection of our world. Of the greediness, ever wanting lust, hate, competing and all of it.

It actually makes me not want to do anything in the game but to sit in a city and talk to people and or help people. Everyone just wants everything they forget about the beauty of the game.

These type of games have whales who are 1% of the community but that's the target audience.
Most mobile mmorpgs roll on this money maker.
As the previous said most wealth is concentrated between a few people, that's also because they are probably the whales who pump these games with money to distinguish themselves from others., like a status symbol.
Meanwhile the free to play is going to get there but time and effort is synonymously the money they have to put in which is tedious that too, at this point of the game.

Great point!

Free to play games, of course, have to be funded somehow. It's always been the top x% whom we should thank. But it has nothing to do (for example) with the gold looting system...

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These type of games have whales who are 1% of the community but that's the target audience.
Most mobile mmorpgs roll on this money maker.
As the previous said most wealth is concentrated between a few people, that's also because they are probably the whales who pump these games with money to distinguish themselves from others., like a status symbol.
Meanwhile the free to play is going to get there but time and effort is synonymously the money they have to put in which is tedious that too, at this point of the game.

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Ngl tho economy a little drained. Just wait until the awaken event hits [emoji23] we going into the great depression [emoji1787][emoji1787]


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Ye players reducing slowly , hence market is at it's lows, hope devs do something to make the economy active again , otherwise the game is on its way to die.

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This may come as a shock to you, Itzmemohsin. You are the only human who has played the game in the last 5 years.