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Yeahh..Rog ult need to be buff !! 🥹🥹
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I agree bow attacks needs haste to work idk why they won't implement it, if that's the case then remove haste on auto attack for all classes. War ult needs nerf that is obvious.
Arc weapons all need to be heavily buffed except dags. These things are ups and downs in numbers, not sure why it's taking so long to implement these
got few good points
Lets see whats the reaction of warrior/mage user on your thread bro :3
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To be honest I don't have problem if new dagger's kill extreme fast bosses, because the user is the 1 that not waiting the others and not the weapon.
About warriors ultimate: some warriors not strong enough and after gother enemies waiting his ultimate to do some damage.
About mage ultimate energized: it gives to all ,so I don't find a reason to lower it.(if lowering maybe better make it give to mage only)
About rogues ultimates : for sure they need some development!
About bows and haste: I don't have opinion, I see my gun attacks faster only with ebon armor not from energized ultimate.
I agree with this:
1.I accept that kraken daggers needs a nerf. There was even lots of threads popping up everyday.So majority of us wish for a nerf.
2.War ultimate will become more and more broken as lv cap goes up.Note that it is not 6x damage but 6x str buff. I mentioned this many times. Either they should nerf it or give other classes a similar buff.
3.Mage haste is not broken that much, because it's possible to reach 70% haste even without that ult. So I don't agree with this since the buff benefits other classes too except rouge bow.
Additional comments:
1.It's very clear that all classes wants to deal damage the most. I feel it's better to increase wars base damage for every str stat point so they don't have to rely on the 6x str ult.
2.I find that the game is progressing in a way where all classes are able to do everything. New arcane weapons are designed in a way where every class will be able to kill mobs and bosses.
3.Also people are mentioning that mage should do aoe damage, war should tank and rouge should kill bosses. But this is not how the game is going currently. I feel slowly there will be no difference between each class.
What do you guys think? Feel free to share your thoughts. If I'm wrong, correct me with valid reasons.
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Ultimate "skill" vs Broken "Equipment"
Dumbos tend to make this two similar when it's not Equipment and skill are two different thing
Energizer is fine as it is mage intend to support more for the team as mob cleaner u can see its skill set made for AoE damage. Problem is rogue are crying about dagger getting it's deserve nerf because they don't have a decent ultimate (main problem) which is fair enuf couz it's true they don't , i was suggesting rogues gets new set of Ultimate full rework but i think admins dislike my idea of Ultimate skill rework and just went straight delete my thread in suggestions section with no explanation why
Excuse me? This is completely biased and im shocked you even tried to say "balance"
Daggers are completely broken. PERIOD
The moment you can run naked and still wreck everything around you, it should be obvious. Increase the dmg aura overall? Is it a joke? These daggers can be last nail in game coffin, so they better nerf them
Your calculations on energize dmg output are "surprisingly" wrong. You switch words intentionally to create a false statement, because energize does NOT give double dmg, it gives faster ATTACK SPEED and reduces cooldown, which is not the same. Time is huge factor on haste effectiveness, as well as enemy you are fighting.
I love when you say "ppl have haste effects anyway so ppl will reach 50-60% haste anyway" but you forgot to apply this logic to daggers nerf xD
For example, we could say "ppl have dmg-increasing procs anyway so ppl will reach high dmg output anyway, so let's nerf daggers hard"
I am ok, thanks for caring. If you read what OP said, you may understand that while asking for a nerf at boss, the intention is to make daggers even stronger at mobs, and right after the talk derails about nerfing other 2 classes.
That's the way i see it, and im not the one implying anything, im always pretty clear
Warrior with ultimate can still easily die to temple mobs / zodias gauntlet mobs at higher waves. To think about it the devs might be making the arcane weapons for the gauntlet map but the thing is those weapons will be too op for every other map in the game.
Warrior ult definitely needs to get nerfed, but not like what you said. as time passes they gain even more STR therefore if we just nerf it to 3-4x STR we'll find ourselves arguing about this skill again and again.
Instead, STS should stop making Stats multiplier and make a fixed amount of stats somewhere between 1800-3500 STR.
I agree that the Kraken Daggers needs to be nerfed I understand as a Rogue myself. But I don't have anything in mind on what changes it needs but a nerf it is.
Energize should stay as it is.
+1 Add haste on bows
+1 Buff UAS by a bit.
I don't understand why people get mad, just give your own input and respect OP's opinion. We're gathering information as to what people think is the right changes, why y'all have to make it so hard. lol
what you are saying make no sense.
first answer this question:
If I do 100 Damage per second, and then I get 50% haste (which is x2 attack speed) so you are saying I will not do 200 damage per second?
Logic to the daggers nerf is right there,you might wanna read it again.
Yeah, temple 120 wave mobs, rahabkor poison pools and the exploading robo-bugs on zodias maps.
1% of all things in the game.
TBH I feel like warrior rage ult should also be nerfed to shorten the time you can run in temple events.
Will be shorter runs in warrior LB
Guys, don't get this thread closed like how rogues did with the other one
War temple was a complete joke this time, rog temple was rng, mage I didn't run. Nerfing ulti won't shorten temple runs, you don't need ulti in temple, you need 3k str and all fish oil elixirs. Nerfing warriors ult won't change anything, I don't even get to use it for most of the maps I run tbh. Sunken bosses dead before I can even proc neptaris, 3 portals no one gets ulti, event bosses die fast so there isn't a need for ulti. Ulti is useless.
who expect a war to have a time to charge their ult on top tier pt for sunken and other places,people keep talking about war ult,its only for slow run nab,are you expecting us to lag behind charging ult when all these mage and rog just rush to boss without needing to worry about ultimate and doing just fine.
People are focused on the wrong things, if you make an expansion only about killing bosses: you can do entire expansion without killing a single mob (except gauntlet) obviously op procs are gonna be what everyone relies on instead of class roles, There won't be any "balance" until the maps get changed so tanks and mages are needed for what they were before.
Also, Give us a new mausoleum please!
Kraken Aegis for Mobs.. is amazing. (If you don't own yourself one, use TB+Skull Dozer) and Mobs are taken care of since your not always running alone in PVE. The 75% Debuff and pulls from the Kraken Aegis is by far one of the best and enjoyable procs in the game especially regarding Mobs being taken care of by Warrior. It's a "TB + Dozer Mix" and people love it when the proc happens cause it helps with melting them like butter + pulling them. Any player that's running Elite Sunken and goes to the Mini Boss areas, love it when the Kraken Aegis procs because it cleans those corners real good due to the pulling and your team just running to ya to nuke the mobs whenever the proc comes, they love it. I have no issues with it. I switch to Nepa at boss and Use Ulti.Vb,Marked Eel Shocks and Boss is dead with the help of the other debuffing armor % new arcane weapons from my teammates and it's nice and fun playing right now.
The only thing that needs more work is the Kraken Sword of Punishment and the Kraken Bow. If you compared the Kraken Bow to the Marianos Bow, They are nearly the same visuals as Sea Blast but that's not the main issue. The main issue is that the 50% Additional Boss Damage% doesn't feel like it's applied from the stats stated on the Kraken Bow. It says debuffs 75%armor on top of that yet a pieces or marianos feels the same and there's no "-75% Armor Debuff nor 50%+ Boss Additional Damage" on either Pieces or Marianos. That's the only issues I'm having.
Regarding Mage Arcane Weapons. I have no idea since I do not play mage anymore but the mages I play with are currently loving using the Kraken Staff on mobs. It's so fun with the Arcane Kraken Staff and Kraken Aegis together. He loves it but will not use it on bosses. I've seen him use my Kraken Staff I looted on Hydra/Fly Lord and his previous Aquarius Set felt better on bosses.
Warrior's Ulti should be kept..I don't think it needs a nerf since everyone enjoys it when you have a warrior that can do that in a map and help out the team. It's doesn't really apply in a duel or pvp clash so it shouldn't be changed. I feel like they should keep it the way it is.
now what u re expecting top tier war to kil mini using dozer axe or kraken aegis have a nice time!
Energizer is mostly used on boss fights - but everyone would be using several haste aa's, Ebon/Kraken armor's, arc pendants, Hero Garlic/Arc Sentinel hb's + Zaarus sets on it also - players would already surpass beyond 70% haste. Energizer basically does almost nothing, just add's 7%-10% haste since its significantlg diminished beyond 70%.
You're contradicting yourself here.
I'd argue that Meteor does a better job in maps like ES than Energizer.
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The only thing that needs change regarding this Kraken Dagger is that the Damage 100% Given should be reduced to 75% but even I wouldn't even recommend it since I personally love running with Rogues already that have this weapon and invested in it. The runs feel nice and fun and smoother and I feel like Rogues should be happy for a while with this and be able to at least enjoy it.Attachment 249851
open your eye and watch that ,count how many time the war try to proc his weapon to kill mini but by the time the weapon proc its already dead,arcane helm coulnt even help the mage just destroy everyhing.
https://youtu.be/8A3riB9okxo
for me no need to balance by class @Dev balance it by weapon, while dagger has op killer of boss and mobs the bow proc damage is not in 50% of damage of dagger i tought bow is a boss killer and dagger is a clean type weapon, please break the silence to all dev. also the other boss damage like sword and gun buffs the boss killer type.
Wow bump for doing a math on this trend
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I only made about 2 threads , discussion about dagger being broken and suggestions for rogue ultimate skill rework i would love to see your proof about me making "left and right" threads care to show me?
I'm calling dumbo those people pretending to be blind about the dagger matter literally destroys anything without proper gear
And if you're curious I'm playing all classes but mainly i farm gold for mage and honor pvp for war and events/dmg test pvp rogue
And so what else? Are you one of those people that pretends to be blind about this weapon? Shrug?
See now also you didn't read my comment. I mentioned to nerf the dagger too.
But why do you keep insulting others calling them dumb, blind? are you disabled or something?
if they don't understand, try to explain it.That's what bothered me. If you feel offended, then ignore it
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I read ur comment your yes you stated you find me keep making thread by mean keep making more than 2 right and only about nerf of the dagger left and right? And i explain idk why are writing i didn't read
If ur offended about me calling that way then yes i was wrong and sorry for that but still I'm kinda confused why people turning a blind eye about this matter and still saying the dagger is not broken that what i meant and why would you assume I'm disabled or something are you okay? Couz for you bringing that up you need some serious help
I've explained a dozen of times people even provided video proof of buck naked rogue only equipping dagger and still destroys bosses performing way more better than a full set zaarus and you still asked if i didn't explained clearly? They're literally turning a blind eye to this what else to discuss