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Before I get hate, hear me out..
I compared my damage to a warrior friend with same stats (Me: 4,190 DEX, War friend: 4,170 STR)
Same gears, very similar awakes, and he dealt same damage as me.
The thing is they do that as they have double HP and Armor than Mages / Rogues, so why not make Mage / Rogue just a little bit more tanky to compensate?
I mean +15% more HP to base stats
And trust me, this even wont be enough to close the imbalance between the classes, but its a start.
Idk how or where u tested this... i played all classes, rogues and mages have way more dmg than tank, expecialy mages with curses on boss... tanks do way less dmg, as a mage i do bosses like a charm, as a tank i run maps without worrie too much about die, but do significant lower dmg at boss (Without the ultimate). That being said, its true new procs help wars to do their part of dmg, and im glad, so i dont mind if sts want buff hp of rogues and mages (as i play mage myself).
go build all str if are not a war.
+10050 the gap is only growing
+1
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This is on the list of things to consider.
-ALS
i beg to differ . go hardcore mode and you lmk how charming you are using your technique on bossesQuote:
Originally Posted by sectioned
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What hardcore have to do with what he said? I answered his statements, hes wrong saying tanks does same dmg as rogues and mages, ik this for a fact, i play mage and its broken to kill bosses, with tank is not as good end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Megatr0n
hes wanting mage and rogues to have more health . go hardcore mode and warriors can solo every map and elite map . rogues and mage need to sit behind a warrior . no matter what statement you were answering , doesnt solve nothing .Quote:
Originally Posted by sectioned
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there is no need for rogues and mages basically . just remove them from game
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Instead my suggestion to solve this is to nerf everything so no elite map can be soloed in 30 sec using procs and set switch only. Especially potals.
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that would be unfair for those who dont have the apsQuote:
Originally Posted by Tekila
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Those APS can be adjusted to the slower pace aswellQuote:
Originally Posted by Megatr0n
Anyway i always though that they were pretty dumb like 1000 times the same boss what the hell is that if it is not the définition of boring?
New aps are cooler like the pool stuff or mechadryon stuff.
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so you know the task is slow and boring . but you want sts to make them slower . your crazy XDQuote:
Originally Posted by Tekila
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Mages and rogues do not need more health this would just make the classes more of the same. Imo would be better to seperate them more so a class has a purpose.
And trust me those 1k aps for Elder are awful to do buffing them or nerfing equipment isn't the answer its way too late in lvl 86 for that.
right now wars do the job of every class . tanks like it should , deals damage like a rogue , and heals better than a mage (also giving invincibility to party) .Quote:
Originally Posted by imfeared
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yes thats what I mentioned already a year ago. I hope this year they gonna nerf warrior or buff rogue and mage. If I wouldnt be so loyal to my rogue I would have switched already 20 times to Warrior.
+1 elo , i am loyal to mage forever . any game ill always go mage whether its pocket legends , or skyrim . mage forever even if we are underpiwered
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Yes i personnaly do not do them because i dislike this kind of APS the most.Quote:
Originally Posted by Megatr0n
No added value and unhealthy.
I would prefer to do 100 Times a boss 10 times harder to do than 1000 times a one shot boss like now.
Same for mobs.
It is never to late for good changes in a game.
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agree. The game still isn’t balanced between classes. But I do see that STS is trying, especially with how the new arcane weapons have different procs and buffs for each class.
I just hope every class has a clear role and purpose, but still has a fair chance to beat one another.
For example:
- Warriors rely on heals, high HP, armor, and stuns. Even if their damage isn’t huge, those abilities give them a real shot at winning fights.
- Rogues, with lower armor and HP, depend a lot on speed and burst damage — maybe with built-in leech ability to help them survive while escaping the fight zone.
- Mages should be able to attack from more longer range, with strong DoT skills and teleportation to keep distance.
Whatever STS has planned next, I just hope it makes the game more intense and balanced.
I dont play hardcore, but i can solo anything with mage just as good as with tank... mage do a hella higher dmg on boss (no ult), but slower on mobs and die easier, but i can definitely solo anything with any class, as i said hc is not of my interest, if people are so jealous of tanks then i guess sts can buff mage and rogue skills health or buff mages shields idc,i acutally made a post where i suggest sts to revamp skills, too many skills and upgrades are outdated or just useless and pointless... i just want all the classes to be good and happy peace.Quote:
Originally Posted by Megatr0n
i aggree, need more heal for both class, mage and rog easily dead in end map like elite indigo even using endgame gear
yes
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Theres just some flaws when comparing what STR, INT and DEX give
Dex: Do rogue need more crit over 100%? No
Int: Do mage need more mana, or any class at all? No
Str: Do warrior need more health? Yes, for every other class? Yes
Mana is down right useless, crit has a cap and up to that point you don't need more
only health there is no limit the more the better
some idea:
Mage: int also contribute to crit damage / skill cd, or when health is low mana will be used to tank damage
Rogue: crit over 100% can over crit for slightly more than normal crit
#make the stats useful
I completely agree. I can't speak for Rogue, but Mage definitely needs some balancing—either a shield or healing adjustment, or even a boost in HP
Some ideas:
1) Shield absorbs more damage the lower your HP is.
2) Increase duration of invulnerability or reduce cooldown of Arcane Shield
3) Allow the shield to absorb more damage
4) increase base HP
Int and dex does increase hp for rogues and mages xD, just not as much as str that true, we need a rework on skills, i can agree with that, mage shield should get buffed 100%, it breaks too easily.. feels too weak, and rogues need some other adjustments too but didnt play this class a lot, so idk, but im not sure i agree with ur dmg buffs... mages and rogues alrdy does hella high dmg, not sure i want they do even more than they alrdy do. Ima say, lets make them more tanky, their dmg is alrdy pretty high.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irg
Warrior’s have so much dmg atm and are broken in especially PvP. Any debates on that? Lemme start with the most broken combo - Heal Shield+Proc+Jug+Vengance. Done. No rogue nor mage will be able to beat that at all
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Why does everyone talk off topic? We talking about pve... bro u cant lie to me, i have a full geared mage... its broken damage on bosses, like 2x the dmg my tank does... without the ult ofc, in pvp i can agree war need nerf, but its off topic.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Player19
or maybe add stat category like in agility add attack speed, health and armor.
command: add skill damage%, pet damage or boss damage/elite etc.
so we can adjust our stat base on what we need for awakening gear or to balance.
not just for 3 based stat only. str, dex and int. then you put pure dex, pure int, pure str for each class.
yes or give us in our skills some hp or dmg reduction there for get more chances for deal with in game
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2x damage??? Nah man only wars have completed 20 curses stacked which takes skill yes but also a lot of....you guessed...damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by sectioned
Dude, we can use ult on cursed xD, why none read what i write... Mage do 2x dmg on bosses, ik i have both classes, with ult ofc tank is just too op, but u cant use ult to farm anyways, like indigo or hedo, but yes tank is better at cursed because high hp and op ultimate. I think sts should give mages better ults, revamp skills for all classes, make rogue and mages more tanky, so all happy.Quote:
Originally Posted by imfeared
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