Valley gates on lb?

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12-29-2019, 10:07 AM
Killyxan

Valley gates on lb?

Hello everyone what do you guys think about that valley gates should be a lb thing since infested and hydra are lb maps why isn't valley a map on lb there will be a lot of competitions for solo and group maps it will be even more challenging and interesting dont get me wrong it's great right now but a lb for this map would be just perfect and maybe reduce the armor on the rogues a bit (in this map only like 200-300 armor max) so the warriors and mages are able to play too not only rogues as in hydra and infested
Thank you.

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12-29-2019, 11:39 AM
jazzbloonist

Unfair for rogues.

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12-29-2019, 11:41 AM
Polosam

Good idea. Bump

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12-29-2019, 11:44 AM
Marosok

I agree with LB map for VV, but Orrick/Hydra are elite maps, VG is normal map. Developer said in general discussion, that they are working on elite map for VV, so hopefully it will be hard, so we can avoid one class show.

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Originally Posted by jazzbloonist

Unfair for rogues.

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Was/Is/will be whole Orrick / Hydra lb fair for other classes?
12-29-2019, 11:51 AM
jazzbloonist

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Originally Posted by Marosok

I agree with LB map for VV, but Orrick/Hydra are elite maps, VG is normal map. Developer said in general discussion, that they are working on elite map for VV, so hopefully it will be hard, so we can avoid one class show.

Was/Is/will be whole Orrick / Hydra lb fair for other classes?

Anybody with good enough boss dmg or even dmg can run it. Why not ask devs to boost warrior or mage dmg in hydra/orrick by 1k-2k to make it fair? Same thing as nerfing rogue armour by 300-400 in 1 map.
Also note that mages and warriors have invulnerability skills, us rogues only have razor shield, not invulnerable.

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12-29-2019, 11:54 AM
Killyxan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marosok

I agree with LB map for VV, but Orrick/Hydra are elite maps, VG is normal map. Developer said in general discussion, that they are working on elite map for VV, so hopefully it will be hard, so we can avoid one class show.

Was/Is/will be whole Orrick / Hydra lb fair for other classes?

It would be great if valley gates only be on lb cuz it has a timer and unlimited rounds ppl will open gates fast so they will be able to try to farm and also try to get to lb to earn a badge and banner maybe? Or only a badge but that goes to the developers elite map wouldn't help much really it would be like maus without gold drop there is nothing to do currently to get any type of gold only maus but ppl got avarice set or greed which are low lvls so they cant use it there that's why it's hard to even get anything rn unless valley gates opens it will be a lot of competitions in this like a lot but rogues need to be nerfed only a little bit in the armor so it balance it

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12-29-2019, 12:01 PM
Killyxan

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Originally Posted by jazzbloonist

Anybody with good enough boss dmg or even dmg can run it. Why not ask devs to boost warrior or mage dmg in hydra/orrick by 1k-2k to make it fair? Same thing as nerfing rogue armour by 300-400 in 1 map.
Also note that mages and warriors have invulnerability skills, us rogues only have razor shield, not invulnerable.

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Even if warriors got 2 or 3k dmg more at hydra or orrick there is still not possible even if any war has 200% boss dmg or mage cant compete with a rog who got high boss dmg or high dmg it makes still no sense only if war and mage ult charge ultra fast then these classes have a chance to be on lb in these maps + the 3k dmg or so that would be kinda close to be in a range of getting to lb as in other class not only rogues

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12-29-2019, 12:08 PM
jazzbloonist

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Originally Posted by Killyxan

Even if warriors got 2 or 3k dmg more at hydra or orrick there is still not possible even if any war has 200% boss dmg or mage cant compete with a rog who got high boss dmg or high dmg it makes still no sense only if war and mage ult charge ultra fast then these classes have a chance to be on lb in these maps + the 3k dmg or so that would be kinda close to be in a range of getting to lb as in other class not only rogues

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Not all rogues have high dmg, and high armour, nerfing us will only make us more squishy. Why not ask to buff mage or war dmg. Im telling u, its the same thing. How about nerfing war and mage dmg further so they have to go with rogues? Or nerfing rogue dmg so we cant kill any mobs?
Look, im not for buffing or nerfing any classes. I am for balance of game's classes. Right now the game is 'decent' in how balanced it is. So i suggest to stop these comments, and just let the game stay as it is right now.

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12-29-2019, 12:18 PM
Killyxan

I didnt mean nerf rogue armor now I meant only "if" only lb map happens also if so then nerf the mythic set lvl 76 armor since it gives 2x armor anyways and also 2x dmg (on all classes) so it will be needed for high rounds but again only "if" this happens which this map will be on lb if no then nvm my post didnt mean anything by now.

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12-29-2019, 12:19 PM
Marosok

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazzbloonist

Anybody with good enough boss dmg or even dmg can run it. Why not ask devs to boost warrior or mage dmg in hydra/orrick by 1k-2k to make it fair? Same thing as nerfing rogue armour by 300-400 in 1 map.
Also note that mages and warriors have invulnerability skills, us rogues only have razor shield, not invulnerable.

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Both are easy maps to run, rogue exclusivity in LB terms.
I did not say i agree with nerf for rogue, don´t ask for warriors buff either. I just seen your sentence as an opportunity for smash shot :) . Orrick/Hydra LB badge reward is in rogue hands. Did not want offend rogue players. Shall we close this discussion, thanks.

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Originally Posted by Killyxan

It would be great if valley gates only be on lb cuz it has a timer and unlimited rounds ppl will open gates fast so they will be able to try to farm and also try to get to lb to earn a badge and banner maybe? Or only a badge but that goes to the developers elite map wouldn't help much really it would be like maus without gold drop there is nothing to do currently to get any type of gold only maus but ppl got avarice set or greed which are low lvls so they cant use it there that's why it's hard to even get anything rn unless valley gates opens it will be a lot of competitions in this like a lot but rogues need to be nerfed only a little bit in the armor so it balance it

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I agreed with you (LB thing), but normal maps don´t have LB. It would be good, if STS change VG from normal to elite type map with LB, or simply add LB to normal version of this map, warriors would be good on solo LB in any of these scenarios. :P
12-29-2019, 12:26 PM
Killyxan

Or maybe make valley gates (elite version without gold only good loot) and normal version (the one with bar) has gold drop otherwise everything will be way to overpriced literally everything but the map it self I think it should be on lb it will be hell amount of competition just like temple event

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12-29-2019, 12:32 PM
Marosok

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killyxan

Or maybe make valley gates (elite version without gold only good loot) and normal version (the one with bar) has gold drop.

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I like this idea.
12-29-2019, 12:35 PM
Killyxan

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Originally Posted by Marosok

I like this idea.

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12-29-2019, 01:35 PM
Encryptions

Lb for valley gates. Only party lb, solo lb will not work because a warrior won't get passed wave 5. A rog alone can solo wave 111.

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12-29-2019, 01:37 PM
Marosok

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Originally Posted by Encryptions

solo lb will not work because a warrior won't get passed wave 5.

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Study your class further.
12-29-2019, 01:38 PM
Encryptions

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Originally Posted by Marosok

Study your class further.

Just giving an example, there won't be many wars to pass wave 5 or 10.

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12-29-2019, 01:46 PM
Marosok

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Originally Posted by Encryptions

Just giving an example, there won't be many wars to pass wave 5 or 10.

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I don´t thin LB (Leaderboard) is in vocabulary of average or undergeared players.
Avg rogues/ mages can t do well in solo either.

Edit: Don´t want be disrespectfull to group of players, but with Adam´s idea of VV elite map they still can run in pt without chance on LB, they can loot something/ contribute pts to open next "gold loot" Gates. Everyone can improve over time and try compete with best of their class (or best geared if you want) in solo LB.
12-29-2019, 02:12 PM
Killyxan

True so everyone will have a chance to climb the lb

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