6 skills vs 5 skills

I changed to Cero skill build recently (it has 5 skills), it's pretty good for both mythic and non-mythic. To use this build effectively against smurfs and rogues (in 1v1), I need to change between Jug and VB in battle (usually while I am shielded by Horn). I also saw tanks with 6 skill build (it means they have an additional attack skill). They need a bit more time to change between skills (i didn't try, but according to simple logic rules, they change between Horn, Jug and VB), but it looks rather attractive to use. I wonder, what build is better? Thanks for feedback.

It depends on what you want to do. I use 6 skills, because I go to normal maps, tanking elite shyual, shyual dimension arena fight, farm easy elites.
i.e. I use
CS,WM,JUGG,HoR for tanking elites
SS,WM,VB,HoR for normal maps and easy elites
CS,SS,WM,VB for shyual arena
and few variations according to situation

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Originally Posted by Jirikjurasek

It depends on what you want to do. I use 6 skills, because I go to normal maps, tanking elite shyual, shyual dimension arena fight, farm easy elites.
i.e. I use
CS,WM,JUGG,HoR for tanking elites
SS,WM,VB,HoR for normal maps and easy elites
CS,SS,WM,VB for shyual arena
and few variations according to situation

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Thx for PvE explanation, but are there any PvP suggestions?

6 skills is hard. Simply because of you have a limmited number of skill points. For most skills you want to use the following amount of points per skill in PvP.

SS= 3
WM= 3-5
CS= 2-3
Axe= 5

Jugg= 3-4
VB= 5
HoR= 4

For passive I try to get 15 points exactly. Therefore, I only have 20 skill points for skills. HoR, vb, and jugg are a must, so depending on your spec you only have 7-8 points for attack skills.

It really limmits where you put skill points. Especially for me who wants axe. I ran out of points quickly. However, I will be using 6 skills for my PvP and PvE builds next cap.

how many skills you are using doesn't matter , choose the build which suit your attacking style .

Like what crow said I won't go for 6 skills.. Maybe possible next season but I would more likely stick to 4-5, you're way too limited , 5 skills already limit you with your passives.. Depending on what you're using ..

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Originally Posted by inkredble

Like what crow said I won't go for 6 skills.. Maybe possible next season but I would more likely stick to 4-5, you're way too limited , 5 skills already limit you with your passives.. Depending on what you're using ..

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Agree, 6 skills nerf passives, so I desided to make 6-th skill after the Dragon Enclaive update. Besides, 5 skills is enough to take out a mage or non-hardcore player rogue. And you can't change skills during team fights, cuz you need to keep eyes open and catch another aimed shot or lightning before it reaches mage...

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Originally Posted by MoloToha

Agree, 6 skills nerf passives, so I desided to make 6-th skill after the Dragon Enclaive update. Besides, 5 skills is enough to take out a mage or non-hardcore player rogue. And you can't change skills during team fights, cuz you need to keep eyes open and catch another aimed shot or lightning before it reaches mage...

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well you can if youre fast enough to change, i know some people do it, changing vb/jugg quick or which ever attack skill theyre switchin , usualy do it when ur JUgg is activated or
HOR 2 second shield, gotta be quick

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Originally Posted by inkredble

well you can if youre fast enough to change, i know some people do it, changing vb/jugg quick or which ever attack skill theyre switchin , usualy do it when ur JUgg is activated or
HOR 2 second shield, gotta be quick

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Practice in a town. A rogue said "**** usually only 5 skill tanks kill me." I had switched skills so fast they hadn't even noticed. It's muscle memory, like playing an instrument or riding a bike.

STS should add skill slot, not just 4 + Pet arcane skill.. i hope this in new expansion :D

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Originally Posted by Crowsfoot

Practice in a town. A rogue said "**** usually only 5 skill tanks kill me." I had switched skills so fast they hadn't even noticed. It's muscle memory, like playing an instrument or riding a bike.

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You can't change skills momentally, it takes some time for menu to roll out, the same crap with skill and skill map window. Although, PC users have advantage, using hotkey which opens skill menu. Do you play AL via PC?

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Originally Posted by MoloToha

You can't change skills momentally, it takes some time for menu to roll out, the same crap with skill and skill map window. Although, PC users have advantage, using hotkey which opens skill menu. Do you play AL via PC?

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i dont think theres a hot key to open skills menu......... i play on pc..and all the hotkeys i know are .. for inv.. map..chats..
is there for skills too?

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Originally Posted by inkredble

i dont think theres a hot key to open skills menu......... i play on pc..and all the hotkeys i know are .. for inv.. map..chats..
is there for skills too?

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I think there's no hot key to open skills menu... cmiiw

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Originally Posted by inkredble

i dont think theres a hot key to open skills menu......... i play on pc..and all the hotkeys i know are .. for inv.. map..chats..
is there for skills too?

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Originally Posted by Newcomx

I think there's no hot key to open skills menu... cmiiw

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Maybe I was misinformed. I heard some guy said about skill hotkey in Chrome client. If there is no skill window hotkey - receive my apologies, cuz I play AL through tablet and use Chrome version very seldom to know a lot about it.

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Originally Posted by MoloToha

You can't change skills momentally, it takes some time for menu to roll out, the same crap with skill and skill map window. Although, PC users have advantage, using hotkey which opens skill menu. Do you play AL via PC?

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Nexus 7 gen.2

Menus are instantaneous in my experience. Lag will make you take longer to skill swap.

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Originally Posted by MoloToha:1408803

I changed to Cero skill build recently (it has 5 skills), it's pretty good for both mythic and non-mythic. To use this build effectively against smurfs and rogues (in 1v1), I need to change between Jug and VB in battle (usually while I am shielded by Horn). I also saw tanks with 6 skill build (it means they have an additional attack skill). They need a bit more time to change between skills (i didn't try, but according to simple logic rules, they change between Horn, Jug and VB), but it looks rather attractive to use. I wonder, what build is better? Thanks for feedback.

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I dont use 3or more attack skills for my gears can't afford sacrifing points from passive.
Lately, many 1v1 warriors ask for no heals,pet etc. with more than 2attack skills you can own other warriors 1v1 for you'll do more damage vs 2attack skill users.

On the othwr hand, Using 5-6skills might be possible vs rogues depending on how fast you can change skills.

For sorc, you dont need it or you dont even need to bother do anything... lol

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Originally Posted by Cero

I dont use 3or more attack skills for my gears can't afford sacrifing points from passive.
Lately, many 1v1 warriors ask for no heals,pet etc. with more than 2attack skills you can own other warriors 1v1 for you'll do more damage vs 2attack skill users.

On the othwr hand, Using 5-6skills might be possible vs rogues depending on how fast you can change skills.

For sorc, you dont need it or you dont even need to bother do anything... lol

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If we are all honest, a "perfect" 1v1 spec would be axe, heal, vb, jugg, and either cs or wm. However, without ss you can quickly move through maps. Additionally, this build spreads points very thin and wouldn't be very good in a clash IMO.