Results 1 to 18 of 18

Thread: Tank bear build and skill discussion

  1. #1
    Member LovingLu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    125
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    5
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    4
    Thanked in
    4 Posts

    Question Tank bear build and skill discussion

    Hi, I am playing my bear, now it is lvl75, heading to lvl76.

    I want to discussion how to be a tank bear in PVE:

    1. Str/Dex or full Str, Which is better?
    Now I am str/dex, but I will try full Str when I capped.
    2. 2H weapon or 1H+shield?
    Hard to say, I prefer 1H+shield. Anyone playing 2H can give your suggestion
    3. Skills suggestion?
    Max DODGE skill and DEBUFF skill...


    What is your opinion?

  2. #2
    Senior Member Rot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Posts
    1,990
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    54
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    221
    Thanked in
    128 Posts

    Default

    If you wish to tank to the max, use full Str. I don't recommend doing it though, you will need better hit% to hit your debuffs. Pure Str in PvP kinda sucks.
    All 4 buffs and Hell Scream should be maxed.


    I Bes Behr : The Guide
    PL-Demon, Warrior, Behr, Light, Rot, Eat, Bank, Bracelet, Icasthard, Forerun, Embarrass

    AL-Rot, Compose

  3. #3
    Senior Member Roberto077's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Somewhere to my left
    Posts
    4,348
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    162
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    387
    Thanked in
    311 Posts

    Default

    150 str and the rest dex with a savage set. All buffs should be maxed

  4. #4
    Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    That bush behind you
    Posts
    4,927
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    704
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    2,056
    Thanked in
    1,058 Posts

    Default

    In PvE tank is useless if it cannot hit his pulls or stomps to CC effectively. So STR/DEX hybrid is recommended to hit ur skills. I do not know a build as I am a bird guy myself but as a tank CCing is ur thing and u need to hit ur targets in order to do so.

    EDIT: Yeah, about gearing. 1H and shield is mostly used because it has the most armor and it's damage is quite good as well. Using a 2H gives u more damage but u loose armor quite a bit and the extra damage isn't worth the armor loss. If u want to do good damage while tanking, u can be a dexbear. Tonyfish (or something like that) is one of the best tanks currently in this game and he is a dexbear. He dishes good amount of damage while still being able to control the mobs.

    In the end, there's actually no matter what gear to use as a tanking bear. With good enough skills and knowledge about correctly tanking u can choose the gear what to use. But 1H and shield is the most forgiving gear as it gives the most armor and is thus the most used gear.
    Last edited by dudetus; 06-06-2013 at 05:39 AM.

  5. #5
    Banned Cheenivie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Posts
    2,271
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    307
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    434
    Thanked in
    273 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Roberto077 View Post
    150 str and the rest dex with a savage set. All buffs should be maxed
    You need 157 str to be able to equip savage

  6. #6
    Banned Mage till the end's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    ...
    Posts
    680
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    18
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    35
    Thanked in
    29 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by dudetus View Post
    In PvE tank is useless if it cannot hit his pulls or stomps to CC effectively. So STR/DEX hybrid is recommended to hit ur skills. I do not know a build as I am a bird guy myself but as a tank CCing is ur thing and u need to hit ur targets in order to do so.

    EDIT: Yeah, about gearing. 1H and shield is mostly used because it has the most armor and it's damage is quite good as well. Using a 2H gives u more damage but u loose armor quite a bit and the extra damage isn't worth the armor loss. If u want to do good damage while tanking, u can be a dexbear. Tonyfish (or something like that) is one of the best tanks currently in this game and he is a dexbear. He dishes good amount of damage while still being able to control the mobs.

    In the end, there's actually no matter what gear to use as a tanking bear. With good enough skills and knowledge about correctly tanking u can choose the gear what to use. But 1H and shield is the most forgiving gear as it gives the most armor and is thus the most used gear.
    Isn't tony fish a Mage?

  7. #7
    Senior Member Nihiliste's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    2,552
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    268
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    429
    Thanked in
    274 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by dudetus View Post
    In PvE tank is useless if it cannot hit his pulls or stomps to CC effectively. So STR/DEX hybrid is recommended to hit ur skills. I do not know a build as I am a bird guy myself but as a tank CCing is ur thing and u need to hit ur targets in order to do so.

    EDIT: Yeah, about gearing. 1H and shield is mostly used because it has the most armor and it's damage is quite good as well. Using a 2H gives u more damage but u loose armor quite a bit and the extra damage isn't worth the armor loss. If u want to do good damage while tanking, u can be a dexbear. Tonyfish (or something like that) is one of the best tanks currently in this game and he is a dexbear. He dishes good amount of damage while still being able to control the mobs.

    In the end, there's actually no matter what gear to use as a tanking bear. With good enough skills and knowledge about correctly tanking u can choose the gear what to use. But 1H and shield is the most forgiving gear as it gives the most armor and is thus the most used gear.
    Tonyfish is a pally...

  8. #8
    Senior Member Roberto077's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Somewhere to my left
    Posts
    4,348
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    162
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    387
    Thanked in
    311 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by cheeniviepl67 View Post
    You need 157 str to be able to equip savage
    Thought it was less. Beastly is only 145

  9. #9
    Senior Member Sryyoulose's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    With a soccer Ball
    Posts
    3,184
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    98
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    222
    Thanked in
    162 Posts

    Default

    Chill the cs is 2 clicks away.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Proud Member of:
    <The Community Guild> PL Chars: Sryyoulose L76, swept L10
    SL Chars: Sryyoulose L40, Affair L28, XPLX L20

  10. #10
    Guardian of Alterra CrimsonTider's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    TN
    Posts
    5,115
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,038
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,654
    Thanked in
    904 Posts

    Default

    Here is my set-up:

    Name:  Screenshot_2013-06-06-09-04-27.png
Views: 153
Size:  428.6 KB

    Name:  Screenshot_2013-06-06-09-04-56.png
Views: 154
Size:  282.4 KB

    As yo can see, the boulder requires you to almost go pure strength. However, it provides everything a good tank needs, including very good hit% for being almost pure. I should also note, I do not have a ring equipped during this time, this is all strictly stats from attribute points and gear. For PvE only, this is what I recommend.

    As far as skills go, it is quite simple: Max out everything with exception of the slashes (1 point each) and restore (not needed as you will dodge quite a bit and have health pots to spam and mage's/rhino's to heal.)

    Any other questions, just ask.
    CrimsonTider::Astuteness::Crim::CrimzonTider::IBec kon::Houndstooth
    WreckzNEffect::Intuitive::Kinesiology::Crimagical: :Killtastrophe::SsgtSlaughter::Transfixion
    Arrownaut::Crimtacular::Funkdified::CrimJr

  11. #11
    Senior Member Rot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Posts
    1,990
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    54
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    221
    Thanked in
    128 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTider View Post
    Here is my set-up:

    Name:  Screenshot_2013-06-06-09-04-27.png
Views: 153
Size:  428.6 KB

    Name:  Screenshot_2013-06-06-09-04-56.png
Views: 154
Size:  282.4 KB

    As yo can see, the boulder requires you to almost go pure strength. However, it provides everything a good tank needs, including very good hit% for being almost pure. I should also note, I do not have a ring equipped during this time, this is all strictly stats from attribute points and gear. For PvE only, this is what I recommend.

    As far as skills go, it is quite simple: Max out everything with exception of the slashes (1 point each) and restore (not needed as you will dodge quite a bit and have health pots to spam and mage's/rhino's to heal.)

    Any other questions, just ask.
    415-450 damage unbuffed! Must be good for 1 combo KOs! ;D


    I Bes Behr : The Guide
    PL-Demon, Warrior, Behr, Light, Rot, Eat, Bank, Bracelet, Icasthard, Forerun, Embarrass

    AL-Rot, Compose

  12. #12
    Guardian of Alterra CrimsonTider's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    TN
    Posts
    5,115
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,038
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,654
    Thanked in
    904 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Rot View Post
    415-450 damage unbuffed! Must be good for 1 combo KOs! ;D
    And as I said, this is without a ring. Let's just say, when I get a 3x blessing, I can clear just about any map with just beckon/stomp (as long as the mobs aren't in "mega-dodge" mode of course.)
    CrimsonTider::Astuteness::Crim::CrimzonTider::IBec kon::Houndstooth
    WreckzNEffect::Intuitive::Kinesiology::Crimagical: :Killtastrophe::SsgtSlaughter::Transfixion
    Arrownaut::Crimtacular::Funkdified::CrimJr

  13. #13
    Senior Member Deathofan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    1,609
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    80
    Thanked in
    67 Posts

    Default

    Full strengh savage bears with elite ring and dodge face get 97 dodge buffed, now only if taunt and beckon at lv9 had a __% (70-85ish) chance to guarantee the pull and aggro, then full str bears would be beast.

  14. #14
    Senior Member ThePvpTwink's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Bay Area, CA
    Posts
    2,550
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    178
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    86
    Thanked in
    81 Posts

    Default

    For pure "tanking" full str gives max health and dodge but comes at the cost of low hit chance and missing combos, in addition to low damage.

    For "hit and damage" str/dex is better. Has higher hit chance and damage, but less health and health regen and dodge.

    1h and shield is better for armor and survivability and taking damage but less damage.
    2h is more killing but less survivability

    It depends on what you prefer.
    PL:Xxkoopyxx~Xpertfarmer~Avianftw~Ithepvptwink~ Expertfarmer~Gratuity~Theaviantwink~Bearocalypsed~ Tehmagetwink~Tehbeartwink~Koopymerch+more AL:Thepvptwink~Xxkoopyxx~Ithepvptwink SL: Thepvptwink DL: Thepvptwink

  15. #15
    Member LovingLu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    125
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    5
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    4
    Thanked in
    4 Posts

    Default

    Thx, I read your amazing guide of bear!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rot View Post
    If you wish to tank to the max, use full Str. I don't recommend doing it though, you will need better hit% to hit your debuffs. Pure Str in PvP kinda sucks.
    All 4 buffs and Hell Scream should be maxed.

  16. #16
    Member LovingLu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    125
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    5
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    4
    Thanked in
    4 Posts

    Default

    Thx, I agree that I need hit% to ccing!

    Quote Originally Posted by dudetus View Post
    In PvE tank is useless if it cannot hit his pulls or stomps to CC effectively. So STR/DEX hybrid is recommended to hit ur skills. I do not know a build as I am a bird guy myself but as a tank CCing is ur thing and u need to hit ur targets in order to do so.

    EDIT: Yeah, about gearing. 1H and shield is mostly used because it has the most armor and it's damage is quite good as well. Using a 2H gives u more damage but u loose armor quite a bit and the extra damage isn't worth the armor loss. If u want to do good damage while tanking, u can be a dexbear. Tonyfish (or something like that) is one of the best tanks currently in this game and he is a dexbear. He dishes good amount of damage while still being able to control the mobs.

    In the end, there's actually no matter what gear to use as a tanking bear. With good enough skills and knowledge about correctly tanking u can choose the gear what to use. But 1H and shield is the most forgiving gear as it gives the most armor and is thus the most used gear.

  17. #17
    Member LovingLu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    125
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    5
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    4
    Thanked in
    4 Posts

    Default

    Wow, it is very useful to me, Thank you!

    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTider View Post
    Here is my set-up:

    Name:  Screenshot_2013-06-06-09-04-27.png
Views: 153
Size:  428.6 KB

    Name:  Screenshot_2013-06-06-09-04-56.png
Views: 154
Size:  282.4 KB

    As yo can see, the boulder requires you to almost go pure strength. However, it provides everything a good tank needs, including very good hit% for being almost pure. I should also note, I do not have a ring equipped during this time, this is all strictly stats from attribute points and gear. For PvE only, this is what I recommend.

    As far as skills go, it is quite simple: Max out everything with exception of the slashes (1 point each) and restore (not needed as you will dodge quite a bit and have health pots to spam and mage's/rhino's to heal.)

    Any other questions, just ask.

  18. #18
    Member LovingLu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    125
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    5
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    4
    Thanked in
    4 Posts

    Default

    thanks, I would like to try both build and feel the difference.


    Quote Originally Posted by ThePvpTwink View Post
    For pure "tanking" full str gives max health and dodge but comes at the cost of low hit chance and missing combos, in addition to low damage.

    For "hit and damage" str/dex is better. Has higher hit chance and damage, but less health and health regen and dodge.

    1h and shield is better for armor and survivability and taking damage but less damage.
    2h is more killing but less survivability

    It depends on what you prefer.

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •