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    Hey guys, ive got a question,
    Does Brute Force really cancel out Vital Force (and other way around)?
    Some ppl have told me it doesnt, some say it does.
    Which is correct?

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    Based on some quick experiments, the party buff stacks, the self buff does not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atila the nun:1159329
    Based on some quick experiments, the party buff stacks, the self buff does not.
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    Yea, exactly what Atila said. That's why rhino takes extra timing skill ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atila the nun View Post
    Based on some quick experiments, the party buff stacks, the self buff does not.
    Wrong. Vital force cancels brute force's self buff, but brute force doesn't cancel vital force's self buff. Brute force cancels vital force's party buff, but vital force doesn't cancel brute forces party buff. So;

    Scenario 1: a rhino casts first brute force, and after that he casts vital force. He will get the self buff of vital force and both party buffs.
    Scenario 2: a rhino casts first vital force, and after that he casts brute force. He will get the benefits of both self buffs, and party buff of brute force.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gragorak:1238456
    Quote Originally Posted by Atila the nun View Post
    Based on some quick experiments, the party buff stacks, the self buff does not.
    Wrong. Vital force cancels brute force's self buff, but brute force doesn't cancel vital force's self buff. Brute force cancels vital force's party buff, but vital force doesn't cancel brute forces party buff. So;

    Scenario 1: a rhino casts first brute force, and after that he casts vital force. He will get the self buff of vital force and both party buffs.
    Scenario 2: a rhino casts first vital force, and after that he casts brute force. He will get the benefits of both self buffs, and party buff of brute force.
    Thanks!
    So if I were to go in pvp, cast Brute force, then Vital force, I would recieve both self buffs?
    A little bit confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gragorak View Post
    Wrong. Vital force cancels brute force's self buff, but brute force doesn't cancel vital force's self buff. Brute force cancels vital force's party buff, but vital force doesn't cancel brute forces party buff. So;

    Scenario 1: a rhino casts first brute force, and after that he casts vital force. He will get the self buff of vital force and both party buffs.
    Scenario 2: a rhino casts first vital force, and after that he casts brute force. He will get the benefits of both self buffs, and party buff of brute force.
    Thanks for the correction Gragorak! So glad someone is looking into this more. Just like you said, the buffs cancel different aspects of the other buff. At least that's what happens when I check my stats screen. Can someone confirm that this is what happens to the party?

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