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    Lightbulb Guide: The Wheel Of LUCK!! Luck, Rerolls, Loot Drops Explained!

    First of all, stop making posts saying 'Luck amulet broken' or 'Reroll doesnt work' or 'Crates give bad drops' and 'No mythics after 100+ crates'. It all depends on luck. STS or devs don't force you to open crates, they are an optional part of the game. You spend on them and open them coz you like it and you choose to. So enough venting out the same feeling on here over n over, its not STS or devs' fault that you don't get mythics. Its designed to be that way!!!

    I got tired of reading all those threads on 'Reroll not working' and 'Crates give crap' so decided to make a thread explaining how it works. Here I have used the simplest form, a Pie Chart! Now, Look at it as a Wheel of Luck, which will rotate every time a 'Loot Drop' event occurs. This wheel will decide what you get!

    Disclaimer: The percentage or values/proportions of loot drops shown in the diagrams or used in the topic may or may not be accurate. Its just an example of how things work. Instead of wheel, devs may be using a randomizer, or anything! This is the simplest way to explain.

    Now, What is a reroll?? A reroll simply means, you get better loot instead of what you were going to get. Say a mob was gonna drop you a 'common' rarity item. If you successfully reroll, you may get 'rare' rarity item. If you were gonna get an 'epic' rarity item, you may reroll for a 'legendary' item. Get the point? It might even give you a better item according to the system from the same class. You might reroll for another epic or legendary too, just a better one according to the system.

    Scenario 1: Running on Elixir/Amulet/Stacked

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    This wheel rotates whenever you are running on a 25% luck elixir and a loot drop event occurs. Where the arrow ends, decides whether you get a reroll or not. Now when you combine it with Leprechaun Pendant, your chances of rerolling are increased to 40% and when you stack with combo, they increase even more. If you are running on just a Leprechaun Pendant, its just a 15% chance, so it may or may not work very often. Has worked for me fine during bosses as well as mobs, so its definitely not broken.

    Scenario 2: When the reroll happens!!

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    Now, you have gotten lucky and rerolled for better loot! What now? What you gonna get? This wheel decides what you get. For example you have rerolled for a legendary item, you may get a piece of equipment, an egg or a locked crate.

    Scenario 3: When you crack open those chests n crates!!

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    Here I have added the 'common' category for the common gold drops from crates. Elite or normal chests don't drop common items.
    This is the wheel that decides what you drop from crates/chests. For example, every time you open a locked crate or a chest, this wheel rotates thrice, deciding your 3 loot drops.

    So, to score a Glacian's Egg from a locked crate, it has to go this way: One of the 3 rotations of the wheel has to be on 'Arcane' rarity. Then its sub-wheel which consists of arcane rarity items list will rotate, that has to end on 'Glacian's Egg'.

    Note: Using a luck elixir or amulet while opening a crate/chest DOES NOT change what you get. Luck elixir has nothing to do with what you get from chests or crates. You won't see a message saying 'your elixir let you reroll for better loot' when you open these chests n crates.

    So basically, it all comes down to luck! People have scored Mauls from Elite Golden Warchests! Now that's really lucky.

    Okay, I am done now. Hope this helps you understand how luck works on AL.

    Note to Devs: If any Dev would like to shed some more light on this, would be appreciated
    Last edited by Venom; 08-11-2013 at 05:04 PM. Reason: Added Note to Devs

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    wow.
    so like this luck works.
    btw wat is locked crates and lepre amulet or wat it called .

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    Very productive guide.

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    I was always a fan of charts!

    Great job Def!

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    Ty for creating this I was also getting tired of reading other complaing threads

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    Awesome!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defamed View Post
    Now, What is a reroll?? A reroll simply means, you get higher loot instead of what you were going to get. Say a mob was gonna drop you a 'common' rarity item. If you successfully reroll, you get 'rare' rarity item. If you were gonna get an 'epic' rarity item, you reroll for a 'legendary' item. Get the point?
    actually... here is a dev post indicating that it is possible to re-roll from one "common" to another "common".

    Quote Originally Posted by Lojack View Post
    "My impression of the luck elixir that if you were to get an item, say a purple (epic) item, it would have a chance to re-roll and bump your item to the next level of rarity, (legendary in this case)."

    You are re-rolling from one loot table to another loot table. Loot tables can contain from 1 to however many items the designer assigns to it. So, for example, if you are in the lowest loot table (with its list of items) and get a re-roll on a common, it's entirely possible that the next higher loot table (with its own list of items) also contains some commons that you have a chance at rolling to, as I understand it. Mostly, you'll get a better item but sometimes not.

    Hope this helps.
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    Btw bro how do you do charts n graphs on forums?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y O L O View Post
    Btw bro how do you do charts n graphs on forums?
    Excel and paint for the arrow!

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    Loot re-rolls don't always give you loot that is one class up. It re-rolls you into another loot table that could have loot that is one class up. The system consist of many loot tables that the Devs do not disclose.

    For example: If you were to loot a Legendary item from an elite boss and Loot Re-roll was activated. What would happen? Would you loot a mythic?

    Since this cannot happen, the game would re-roll you into another Legendary item and the system would have to randomly choose which of the two items would be your received loot. If that would be the case, then it would be safe to assume that this scenario could apply to other classes of items (common, green, epic)

    Now I could be wrong, but this is just a theory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wowsome View Post
    actually... here is a dev post indicating that it is possible to re-roll from one "common" to another "common".
    Thanks, will add it to the topic.

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    Just Powerpoint and then screenshot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ebezaanec View Post
    Loot re-rolls don't always give you loot that is one class up. It re-rolls you into another loot table that could have loot that is one class up. The system consist of many loot tables that the Devs do not disclose.

    For example: If you were to loot a Legendary item from an elite boss and Loot Re-roll was activated. What would happen? Would you loot a mythic?

    Since this cannot happen, the game would re-roll you into another Legendary item and the system would have to randomly choose which of the two items would be your received loot. If that would be the case, then it would be safe to assume that this scenario could apply to other classes of items (common, green, epic)

    Now I could be wrong, but this is just a theory.
    Anything is possible, I don't claim what I posted is entirely accurate, its just a general explanation for players to understand it better.

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    BTW, I believe eggs/crates are in the same loot table as chests and they are simply the "legendary" rarity items from that loot table:

    White/Common = Copper Chest
    Green/Rare = Silver Chest
    Purple/Epic = Gold Chest
    Pink/Legendary = Locked Grand Crate of the Watch/Egg

    So there are occasions when a luck elixir may actually bump you from an Elite Golden Chest to a Locked Grand Crate of the Watch, which if course most would consider a downgrade. But it can happen.

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    Overall an awesome guide to people wondering how such things work. *thumbs up*

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    nice post!
    In your thread we can prove drope arcane or mythic items re very rare and u need have very lucky like when u goes to casino and play black jack ( if udont know how count cards obviously ) and u get black jack

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    Wow this is awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Energizeric View Post
    BTW, I believe eggs/crates are in the same loot table as chests and they are simply the "legendary" rarity items from that loot table:

    White/Common = Copper Chest
    Green/Rare = Silver Chest
    Purple/Epic = Gold Chest
    Pink/Legendary = Locked Grand Crate of the Watch/Egg

    So there are occasions when a luck elixir may actually bump you from an Elite Golden Chest to a Locked Grand Crate of the Watch, which if course most would consider a downgrade. But it can happen.
    Totally Possible We know Elite chests worth more than crates but system would consider Legendary Crate to be of a higher value.

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    Great guide, and finally an answer to all those similar threads out there. Majority of this is well known to me, but 2 things I must ask, that are still not clear to me:

    1- Do chests/crates fall under the same table with eggs? As I have read somewhere a while ago, if you would get a chests with an original drop, after a successful reroll you have a chance at crate/egg drop? True or not?

    2- This question is more important to me, might consider it top priority to know at this moment: luck/combo/lepre amu DO NOT effect what you will get from chests and more important crates? True or not true? Cuz to my current knowledge, opening crates with luck/combo/lepre amu give you better chance at mythic/arcane loot. That's what I was told, not that I had much luck with few of my attempts, but again, would be nice knowing if this doesn't affect hits from crates/chests at all.. Have devs ever confirmed that?

    Thanks in advance for answering, whoever find time to answer

    Once again, nice guide. Respect.

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    Defamed and kalizzaa's research on the technical aspect of AL is very impressive.kudos for this as not all understands the maths and calvulations behind this.up till now i hv no idea how to use the calculator stats. Thank you for sharing this very useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insomniack View Post
    Great guide, and finally an answer to all those similar threads out there. Majority of this is well known to me, but 2 things I must ask, that are still not clear to me:

    1- Do chests/crates fall under the same table with eggs? As I have read somewhere a while ago, if you would get a chests with an original drop, after a successful reroll you have a chance at crate/egg drop? True or not?

    2- This question is more important to me, might consider it top priority to know at this moment: luck/combo/lepre amu DO NOT effect what you will get from chests and more important crates? True or not true? Cuz to my current knowledge, opening crates with luck/combo/lepre amu give you better chance at mythic/arcane loot. That's what I was told, not that I had much luck with few of my attempts, but again, would be nice knowing if this doesn't affect hits from crates/chests at all.. Have devs ever confirmed that?

    Thanks in advance for answering, whoever find time to answer

    Once again, nice guide. Respect.
    1) Don't think so. Top Elite Chests are epic, Crates and Eggs are Legendary. So Crates and Eggs should fall under same category.

    2) As i have said in my post, luck elixir/amulet does not affect what you get from chest/crate. I think it was H2N who commented this in chat window on forum once. Also, if they did affect, it would give a notification right? *your elixir let you reroll for better loot*

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