Youcant one hit anymore and its pretty balanced. If any of these classes say "----- is OP" theyre crap themselves, with the exception of warriors.Originally Posted by anibiag:1261661
Youcant one hit anymore and its pretty balanced. If any of these classes say "----- is OP" theyre crap themselves, with the exception of warriors.
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This sounds like a good reason why you don't need any mana. Not sure why you created this thread then. If its balanced, any change will effect the balance.
see how i say "Its pretty balanced". My quote is about one class being OP, not one class lacking mana etcThis sounds like a good reason why you don't need any mana. Not sure why you created this thread then. If its balanced, any change will effect the balance.
It would be wise to calm down falm, enough of this bs...Ill stop too.
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This mana is enough for the rouge class if u use ur brain u should use blades vs the warrior and wait until it proc the crit and spam critted hits for 8secs and down the warrior, this is how easy it is no need for extra mana packs , just brain and skills try it before complaining
Not brains, you rely on crits and thats why youre not good in 1v1 nor 5v5 cookie.
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Nothing to rely on crits the blades makes u crit for sure and not a chance u get 100*%crit for 8secs none can survive 4combos full crit try it then talk again
Yet you got owned 20-2?
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I was testing out the daggers on rouges and after that i used my bow 3-0 man sup?
Bump. Mana would be good now.
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Rogues have to stop killing somehow. In this case, they run out of mana.
Warriors used to have vb that constantly refilled mana. They nerfed it to give us a weakness.
Rogues with limitless mana and bad ethics could easily make attempts to repeatedly spawn kill.
1. Pvp is about killing, we cant stop killing.
2. Warriors still have unlimited mana as long as someone keeps attacking them, which is always because its pvp
3. How is a simple [5% replenish on each heal medic pack and a 50% mana heal proc on entangled bow] limitless as opposed to truly limitless mana abilities of a warriors VB?
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Why not incorporate say... a 50% mana HoT into razor shield?
In order to pick this up, a lot of rogues would probably stop spamming uncharged nox after AS and before Pierce in pvp. You would effectively decrease our maximum damage output, but give us a great way to remain viable in longer bouts.
A very fair exchange, IMO.
Thats why my suggestion is a buff: It doesnt need to sacrifice anything, therefore its a simple and small buff (5% heal per pack) WITHOUT losing any damage
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1. You can continue to kill, not just with insane damage without the mana. It just requires a bit more strategy in some cases.
2. Warriors run out of mana. Vb is not active all the time. I run to get mana packs in pvp.
3. We need a weakness for rogues. Maybe reduce health pack health gain for mana gain.
Most warriors will struggle killing rogues unless they run out of mana in many cases.
If Rogues can heal Mana, why would Mages be needed at all?? Renders this class useless, especially for pvp. As it is, Mages are not necessary for PVE, since 3 rogues and a tank can take on pretty much anything ... but with Mana heal, PVP would just be 4 rogues just destroying everything ... it's fine, as once this happens, I would switch to a rogue character and build that up, as I'm assuming, would most ...
as far as i know... pvp system right now is full bs to me. rogues cant kill a warrior with full mythic since the last 2 updates sts cripple rogues to there knees. (damage reduction and healing effectiveness reduction witch really puts rouges to the test)
for mages who saying rouge is too op, i agree with you, but with the exception of season 5. season 4 below rogues are op. but this season rogue is just terrible to use in pvp. the only skills that really kills everything on pvp is aimshot or probably shadow pierce. but with all kinds of skill that mages use.. its all around, i mean you can use it on pve or pvp. also mage is now untouchable for 1v1. for example their stun and their curse + their damage+dps really makes them invincible, if so manage to survive with their op`nes.. you much probobly emptied your mana because of their shield. rogue cant event use their specialty... their quickness.
the only thing rogue can kill is on 5v5 with the help of others. 1v1 is full of bs for rogue right now. sts should do something about this mana lacking rogue issue.
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Maybe add a 50% mana HoT (if they decide to try out Jenvys idea) to noxious bolt instead of razer shield? Razer shield doesnt work well against certain classes/builds. Whereas nox bolt is THE MOST versatile skill after Aimed Shot.
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No, they're at the point where they can't give us a straight up buff, as that would make rogues OP for yet another season.
They need to simultaneously take something away if they're going to lessen the severity of our one major weakness.
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