the GREAT PL NERF pvp opinions

[the common pvper]

this was just a thread i decided to make to raise somethings that have been on mind , everyone is free to share their opinions
first of all - str bears are under powered now , dex bears are ...well they are the "pwners"
birds are HIGHLY underpowered , u just cannot win against a pure int mage or dex bear
str mages suck now too , well thats what iv heard . the balance restored some good things in pvp but to be honest birds arent just the birds anymore i think birds have been hit to hard in this nerf .
too all my brother and sister birds out there , i speak on your behalf to sts , please make birds more powerful , we cant go on like this

EDIT: okay iv read alot of your opinions . BUT most bears are going for dex and are wayyyy op , birds dont stand a chance against them . im telling u , even if you are ninja or apollo or kanital or any extremely skilled player u will find it very hard to win 10/10 against a decent dex bear 1v1 . Their hs stomp combo and deadly auto finishes us before we even get a chance to try and fight back.

So i agree with most of you , birds are balanced now , but some of the other classes need to be nerfed . can some of you agree with me on that aspect?

[dudetus]

Birds are IMO quite well balanced currently. Dodge won't determine winner mostly and all you have to do is to learn to play bird. It's no more dodge and pray while spamming blast shot.

[DoesntEveryoneTellLiez]

To be honest birds still good, and Pallys= the str mage how you call it, it is much powerful than before however int mage still useless when buffs and ms is cooling down.
My bear is 1 piece cap str and i still think he is op.
You really just need to know how to play it.

[Nihiliste]

You've had 10 months dodging and one-shot killing everyone, don't come over here saying birds aren't birds anymore. Birds are still playable so either learn how to play better or get used to it. Remember, 10 months dodging everything and one-shotting, your time is up.

[Ilovesweets]

its more like this: now str bears are op dex bears are under powered and birds suck :/


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[Roberto077]

I would say birds are balanced, but instant killing and instant death are never fun. Hopefully we will be getting an armor/health raise soon. Possibly making it like AL, where dex increases health for birds and int for mages by a bit, but strength increases health at a greater rate.

Also, Rockin' Retro gear will take endgame in a different turn by increasing certain stats. Perhaps the forty will be armor and health regen based.

[Archermaster]

though i play birds alot i still say there more balanced the buffs might be down a little but blast shot is still 600-700 damage thats like instant kill to anything in pvp espiecally mages

[tHelonestud]

People are too used to not needing skill to win
but bear is definitely op, regardless of spec, STS forgot to nerf their evade

[razerfingers]

wow noobs think PL was always like this lmao.

[Multibird]

I've to agree with waug, all classes are balanced quite well. But str gear, still a little op

[DoctorWabbit]

Well ... *cough* *cough*
I think you are totaly WRONG.
The nerf according to P.L community was a big success.However there are still issues which have to be solved and ill mention in a bit.
I think birds now are quite balanced!No more crazy dodges and one-shot kill.
As for dex bears...they totaly underpowered in Lvls 20-40 because they do almost no dmg at all
What is more...str bears have became very powerfull especially in lvls 20-40 and when using PLAT PACKS!Thats right!When still Fbows were Op we (mages,birds) would kill Plat bears but with 50% success most times.Now that we have to use voodoo pins,iceberg longswords and talons these bears are real gods!!They have 115 armor without iron blood!While they buffed their average Stats are:
40-45 dodge (6 taunt & evade)
45-55 Crit
230-250Dmg (6 rage)
135-140 Armor (with 4-6 iron blood)
In my opinion the only thing that needs to be fixed (blalanced) are plat packs (L30-40) and rhino plat pack L15-20

[XghostzX]

its more like this: now str bears are op dex bears are under powered and birds suck :/


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No... please, just no...

Guys, this is a little pathetic. Changes have been made for less than 24 hours, and all of a sudden those using birds are all like, "Wahh, we're op?"

As Gnome said, birds have been OP for the past 10 months. This is the way they're meant to be played - the purpose of games and having classes isn't to be super strong individually, but to put them together where everyone plays a role... (thus the fact why I hate 1v1 "go")

[TEOKILLO]

U guys are only thinking bout endgame 71- birds suck alot

[Reunegade]

No... please, just no...

Guys, this is a little pathetic. Changes have been made for less than 24 hours, and all of a sudden those using birds are all like, "Wahh, we're op?"

As Gnome said, birds have been OP for the past 10 months. This is the way they're meant to be played - the purpose of games and having classes isn't to be super strong individually, but to put them together where everyone plays a role... (thus the fact why I hate 1v1 "go")

Exactly. I have played endgame bird for a couple of months now and it really did not take skill 1-shotting and dodge-haxing. IMO, it's balanced now.

[Cheenivie]

U guys are only thinking bout endgame 71- birds suck alot

Yup 71 birds a useless now.. alrdy that bears only beakon stomp at tht lvl now that birds are weaker..

[OvigorothO]

Yup 71 birds a useless now.. alrdy that bears only beakon stomp at tht lvl now that birds are weaker..

Not being able to kill a tank in one shot is not "useless" you've just accustomed yourself to the luxury of being OP and it will definitly take time to learn how to actually use your class effectively. Here's the reason Sts has done this, they are looking to please older players which are Pl's primary income these days. It may be upsetting for you being part of a newer generation of Pl players to see things working backwards instead of forwards but usually, when old players collectively believe something about a game, they've got a point if you give it some time you will be satisfied soon enough.

[Chickenrunnn]

But str gear, still a little op

A little bit? Based dodge with savage = buffed bird dodge using swift.

Devs, Increase HP + lower Rhino heal HP regen = OMG YESS !! Balanced game
You should test it to see if it is balanced :]

+250hp on bird, +250HP on mage, +150Hp on bear, +250 hp on fox, +150 hp on rhino should make it.

No more one shots, only 2 shots >.<

Not being able to kill a tank in one shot is not "useless" you've just accustomed yourself to the luxury of being OP and it will definitly take time to learn how to actually use your class effectively. .

Being oneshotted won't make you any better at playing any class
Even if you have skills, you die directly without being able to do anything ^^

[TEOKILLO]

@ovigorotho 71 birds were never OP, bears were always slightly better, but now bears have complete control

[Archermaster]

i dont know about bears but i know birds use to be op cause when i pvped one on my bear they 2 shot me and i died

[Ks_Leon]

they should really nerf the damage of weapon after nerf the buff...the fight burd vs burd still use one shot to die lol