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    Hi all, I'm thinking of making a level 26 pvp twink rogue and my weapon of choice would be arcane hooks. I'd have all the best gear as well. Keeping that in mind, can someone suggest the build I should use. Keep in mind I know nothing about playing a rogue as I've never even tried it before. While I'm somewhat familiar with some of the skills from reading on this forum, I really have no idea about any of the upgrades, etc. So if someone can give some good detailed advise, like which 4 skills to use (I'm not sure if it matters but keep in mind I'd be using hooks, not a bow), which skill upgrades to use, and which passives are good, that would be great.

    Also, I forget the exact allocation of stat points for rogue. Obviously I know dex is what makes your damage, crit and dodge. But does INT also contribute to damage? And what about STR, is it just for health points or does it add anything else?

    Thanks for any help you can give!

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    I will try put some suggestions down sooner or later...

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    So far what has been suggested is:

    Aimed Shot (5/5)
    Shadow Piercer (2/5 - only upgrade shadow absorption)
    Noxious Bolt (seems to be disagreement on how many and which upgrades to add for this one)
    Heal (some say add all upgrades, some say only add extra packs, the other upgrades all sound good but I'm just not sure how effective they are as the descriptions don't say)

    Someone also suggested since I'm using hooks that I should use Razor Shield instead of Nox since it increases dodge a ton. That makes sense to me as I will be in close range of the enemy because I don't have a ranged weapon. But most others I have talked to seemed to disagree on that.

    Passive DEX (5/5)

    Not sure which are the next best passives to add. I always hear rogues complain about running out of mana, so I'm thinking maybe 5/5 INT would be smart, but maybe that's too many points on mana? What about STR too, rogue is a bit squishy as well. And what about crit passives? I guess there's lots of choices here.

    Maybe some of you can help me fill in the blanks here....
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    Here try this :
    Aimed Shot (5/5)
    Shadow Piercer (3/5) No Gouging Rush or Leading Dagger
    Noxious Bolt (3/5) No Strengthened shot and lingering poision
    Combat Medic (3/5) No Good Medecine and Trama Surgeon

    Passives:
    Full Dex
    Full Knowledge

    1. I know that rouges dont have that much health. Just use STR pets ( I know that they are for warrior, I mean cmon. I use ribbit too much. They just pets.. ) Malison, Ribbit ETC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tishamaxine View Post
    Here try this :
    Aimed Shot (5/5)
    Shadow Piercer (3/5) No Gouging Rush or Leading Dagger
    Noxious Bolt (3/5) No Strengthened shot and lingering poision
    Combat Medic (3/5) No Good Medecine and Trama Surgeon

    Passives:
    Full Dex
    Full Knowledge

    1. I know that rouges dont have that much health. Just use STR pets ( I know that they are for warrior, I mean cmon. I use ribbit too much. They just pets.. ) Malison, Ribbit ETC.

    All opinions are my own
    Still would have 4 more skill points left over. I'm going to be level 26, so that means I have 25 skill points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Energizeric View Post
    Still would have 4 more skill points left over. I'm going to be level 26, so that means I have 25 skill points.
    Theres 4 more?? I think im blind...
    Try put the remaining on Might or Crit. Or if you wanna go all dex, go for dmg

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    Energizer - what is your plan with this Rogue Twink? Do you plan to PVP or are you running timed runs? Ultimately how do you plan to play?

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    5 aim
    2 pierce(+10 heal)
    4 nox(no strengthened shot)
    4 packs(no trama surgeon)

    5 dex
    5 int

    I'd say try with 14 points in int, and rest dex to start. The reason I say 14 and not 15 is because you get .2 more dmg if you do 14 and its worth more than 10 int. good luck with them op hooks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alrisaia View Post
    Energizer - what is your plan with this Rogue Twink? Do you plan to PVP or are you running timed runs? Ultimately how do you plan to play?
    Just PvP, and probably will just play once in a while, my end game mage will still be my main.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azepeiete View Post
    5 aim
    2 pierce(+10 heal)
    4 nox(no strengthened shot)
    4 packs(no trama surgeon)

    5 dex
    5 int

    I'd say try with 14 points in int, and rest dex to start. The reason I say 14 and not 15 is because you get .2 more dmg if you do 14 and its worth more than 10 int. good luck with them op hooks!
    Thanks! I don't have the hooks yet, but I expect their price to drop a little bit soon and will be looking to buy.

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    I think it's stupid to make a twink but I'll help out.

    Aim 5/5
    Nox 2/5 more dmg
    2/5 piercer hp steal
    Packs 4/5 no HoT
    Int 5/5
    Dex 5/5
    Rest ro Str.

    Full dex main points.

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    Every build there ^ is wrong if you want to be a beast. If you want a specific build, i can pm you

    But the build aze suggested is good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMiraclebird View Post
    Every build there ^ is wrong if you want to be a beast. If you want a specific build, i can pm you

    But the build aze suggested is good.
    He can always try it first............... Period




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    What makes you say it's wrong? Just because it isn't yours. You're not God.

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    Besides it all comes down to combos anyways

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tishamaxine:1274063
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMiraclebird View Post
    Every build there ^ is wrong if you want to be a beast. If you want a specific build, i can pm you

    But the build aze suggested is good.
    He can always try it first............... Period

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    There is no point in wasting plat on more than 2 respecs. I know twink PvP to a, lets say at a highly professional level so I want to be realistic about this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soundlesskill:1274115
    What makes you say it's wrong? Just because it isn't yours. You're not God.
    My post came out wrong lol, I didnt mean the builds are crap but parts of all the builds are lacking imo. Most of them will lack survivability and ill bet you that mana preservation will be one of the hardest things. But, youre not a twink so you wouldnt understand If you combine all the mentioned builds, it would be an exotic result.

    Yours for example, missing out HoT, thats a huge disadvantage because its missing out on an extra heal
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMiraclebird View Post
    My post came out wrong lol, I didnt mean the builds are crap but parts of all the builds are lacking imo. Most of them will lack survivability and ill bet you that mana preservation will be one of the hardest things. But, youre not a twink so you wouldnt understand If you combine all the mentioned builds, it would be an exotic result.

    lvl26 is Not a twink lvl. Mind you I pvped at lvl26 CAP. :Rollseyes:

    Yours for example, missing out HoT, thats a huge disadvantage because its missing out on an extra heal
    Not really, some people know when to time their heal, besides at that lvl it only heals like 126 per HoT.
    Timing heal as in, sync with a warr. It really doesn't do much, besides you can just pierce if you're bad at surviving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMiraclebird View Post
    There is no point in wasting plat on more than 2 respecs. I know twink PvP to a, lets say at a highly professional level so I want to be realistic about this
    This is when free plat offers come in!
    Or wait until free respecs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soundlesskill View Post
    Not really, some people know when to time their heal, besides at that lvl it only heals like 126 per HoT.
    Timing heal as in, sync with a warr. It really doesn't do much, besides you can just pierce if you're bad at surviving.
    You may have PvP'd at L26 cap but you have no idea how things have changed after the DMG nerf, the warrior buffs, mage buffs etc.

    damage at L26 will probably hit around 500 on an uncharged aimedshot and one tick of HoT heals 126 as you said, it would take 4 ticks to completely heal an aim shot. Its really useful after L21
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