Good Ole' Crim's idea of PvE Vs. PvP Gear

**XghostzX** · 09-20-2013, 10:36 PM

Heyo,

So Crimsontider came up with a wonderfully, well thought-out solution to PvP and PvE balance - making separate PvE gear and PvP gear.

I'm all ears for heads up for new ideas on balancing stats - that is great, and I'll continue trying to help out with that.

Although, i think a lot of PvPers would be happy if PvP gear was created, this way a new sense of balance could be made right from the get-go.

I've always thought this plan could be 100% full-proof. Starting from scratch with new gear makes it easy to balance.

**Revealing** · 09-21-2013, 03:14 AM

Hope this happens too

**Dreuefesie** · 09-21-2013, 04:03 AM

Maybe the items could have PVP stats and PVE stats so you only need one set if you don't have too much gold? But PVP and PVE gear is a very good idea!

**lonleybird** · 09-21-2013, 09:15 AM

Lol this game is turning into moar and moar like wow...

**Zapoke** · 09-21-2013, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by lonleybird

Lol this game is turning into moar and moar like wow...

"Oh, it has <insert MMO trait here>, just like WoW, must be a WoW clone!"

MMOs evolve as players express things that they like. MMOs (usually) don't copy other MMOs, but they put things in that players have come to expect in online games. Many of these things happen to be present in the currently most successful MMO out there, imagine that!

**XghostzX** · 09-21-2013, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by lonleybird

Lol this game is turning into moar and moar like wow...

It's not like its billion dollar profit speaks for itself...

**lonleybird** · 09-21-2013, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by Zapoke

"Oh, it has <insert MMO trait here>, just like WoW, must be a WoW clone!"

MMOs evolve as players express things that they like. MMOs (usually) don't copy other MMOs, but they put things in that players have come to expect in online games. Many of these things happen to be present in the currently most successful MMO out there, imagine that!

Lawl.. this game wasnt like this from the start why make it like this now? its a dum idea IMO

**angeldawn** · 09-21-2013, 10:47 AM

I'm not saying this is a good idea or bad idea. It is interesting.

I have to say, I like being able to PVP in all my different sets on my endgame. (Ex. Shadow Gear on 76).

I really would HATE to have to farm or buy new sets just to PVP. And if this does become a reality. Make the sets purchasable with real money cuz I don't wanna farm and only get PVE sets when I'm trying for a PVP set.

**lonleybird** · 09-21-2013, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by angeldawn

I'm not saying this is a good idea or bad idea. It is interesting.

I have to say, I like being able to PVP in all my different sets on my endgame. (Ex. Shadow Gear on 76).

I really would HATE to have to farm or buy new sets just to PVP. And if this does become a reality. Make the sets purchasable with real money cuz I don't wanna farm and only get PVE sets when I'm trying for a PVP set.

Who said we would buy with money? and thats what they were stating. Like buying with pvp points... oh wait thats WoW

**Twinklaser** · 09-21-2013, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by XghostzX

It's not like its billion dollar profit speaks for itself...

How bout we let em charge us $15 a month for the game?

**XghostzX** · 09-21-2013, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by angeldawn

I'm not saying this is a good idea or bad idea. It is interesting.

I have to say, I like being able to PVP in all my different sets on my endgame. (Ex. Shadow Gear on 76).

I really would HATE to have to farm or buy new sets just to PVP. And if this does become a reality. Make the sets purchasable with real money cuz I don't wanna farm and only get PVE sets when I'm trying for a PVP set.

I was actually thinking in terms of keeping the same stats - so we keep the stats for PvE, but the PvP gear stats can be changed on the current sets.

@lonelybird - Can you quit posting on this thread, please? You have something against PL yet you choose to be here, I don't understand.

**lonleybird** · 09-21-2013, 01:48 PM

idk if you didnt know but im cuard

**Mothwing** · 09-21-2013, 02:11 PM

Really cool idea, but how would one get the gear? Would it be a reward system where after a certain number of kills or wins, the person would get a piece?

Or would they be farmed?

**Caiahar** · 09-21-2013, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by Twinklaser

How bout we let em charge us $15 a month for the game?

I am against this.
There are people who have guardian/parents who think that spending money on a mobile game is stupid (Myself included)and the younger (13/14/15) couldn't play.

**Twinklaser** · 09-21-2013, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by Shadowstar

I am against this.
There are people who have guardian/parents who think that spending money on a mobile game is stupid (Myself included)and the younger (13/14/15) couldn't play.

I was being sarcastic since it appears Ghost was attempting to shape PL into WoW(which charges $15 a month). My bad as I forgot that tone is very hard to express through texts. I for one also have anti-videogamist parents.

**Randomguy** · 09-21-2013, 11:36 PM

lol

**angeldawn** · 09-22-2013, 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by XghostzX

I was actually thinking in terms of keeping the same stats - so we keep the stats for PvE, but the PvP gear stats can be changed on the current sets.

@lonelybird - Can you quit posting on this thread, please? You have something against PL yet you choose to be here, I don't understand.

I'm fine with current gear having 2 sets of stats but that seems like a very lot of work for developers. The argument could be made that every piece of gear (not just sets) then needs 2 sets of stats. Unless you plan to 'buff' up stats on pinks but then everyone would have to have pinks to even come close to compete.

Developers need a quick fix for PL. The company doesn't want to invest much time and money into it. It adds more overhead and chips away at the profits. Additionally, this may need more in depth code written where a new update would have to be pushed to our providers and G said they won't do that.

I don't know what the solution is. But I think if we find and easy solution we have a better chance of it being implemented.

It seems that nerfing damage when entering pvp was an easy implementation maybe we could work with that somehow. Maybe dodge could have a max limit for the different classes. Could prevent Str gear making some classes in Str Op.

**XghostzX** · 09-22-2013, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by lonleybird

idk if you didnt know but im cuard

Lol go on?

@Angel - I think as a developer's job, putting in the work shouldn't be a big deal. Although I know STS doesn't want to invest the time and money into PL anymore. I guess we'll keep rebalancing the stats.

**Mothwing** · 09-22-2013, 10:33 AM

I wish all the nerfing would stop :/ at some point the weapons will all be "nerf" guns. Ha, get it?

**angeldawn** · 09-22-2013, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by XghostzX

Lol go on?

@Angel - I think as a developer's job, putting in the work shouldn't be a big deal. Although I know STS doesn't want to invest the time and money into PL anymore. I guess we'll keep rebalancing the stats.

I agree Hun. I take pride in my work and expect others to so the same. However, it was pretty much stated earlier that they were looking for quick fixes.