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    Default The "Hacker" and YOU!

    Lately I've been seeing a lot of players threaten to "hack" me unless I give them something or bend to their will. I know a lot of players who get paranoid about this and can cave under the pressure, so I'm making this to clarify some things.

    1. HACKING is not a term real hackers use, it's like Chuck Norris flattering himself with a Chuck Norris joke, just doesn't work that way. Most hackers will refer to themselves in a number of ways, most usually Black Hatter.

    2. Even real hackers arn't as you'd imagine. They don't have magical programs with awesome buttons that can "hack" for them and people who use programs to help them along the way are known as "Script Kiddies" and they usually don't know what they're doing entirely.

    3. Even top notch "hackers" can't grab any information they want on a fingers notice. I'll put things into perspective to explain things a bit better. Account information is held on servers STS personally chose. Aside from PL not showing the IP of the server it's contacting while logging in, it would be a pain in the *** to try and find it. Even if someone manages to get the server IP, I would assume most would attempt to SQL inject the server if possible. On the 1/100 chance that the server has a SQL Injection vulnerability, the process to find specific information is a very long guessing game. Then assuming they managed to find your information, the information isn't kept in an organised text file with all the account information of everyone on PL. It will be encrypted. On top of the fact that it's super super super unlikely they found the information that easily, they would have to spend hours finding what encryption it is. Most of the time it is MD5 Hash which is never fun to decrypt, to top it off it's way more likely it's a closed source encryption method, and in THAT case, unless the person doing the job is an arithmetic encryption specialist, it's very unlikely they can decrypt it to read what's inside.

    So all in all, it's like finding a needle in a feild of hay, in the pitch black darkness, with a lazer pointer as your only light source.

    4. HOW TO FEND THEM OFF!
    Your best bet is to bluff right back. Most of the time it will work if you say something along the lines of "Oh really now, mr.haxor. So explain to me the process of "hacking", good sir." Then they usually throw around a couple of terms they found on wikipedia like "Password Cracker" or something fancy sounding. Then most of the time that will leave you an opening to lie and own them. You can easily lie and say something like, "I'm an IT Director and I can tell that you're talking about things way beyond your knowledge and capabilities. Don't BS me." Then they usually stay silent and that leaves room to troll the fail troller! Like "Exactly, shut it." or something to finish off your epic win.


    And no I'm not a black hatter (term that hackers use, it means an illegal hacker. An Antonym some people use is a White Hatter which is usually people like an IT Department who protect against hackers). I've been on both sides of the table of good and bad and I can tell you that "Hacking" is never a full proof method. It really is just a guessing game on top of luck more than anything.
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    thx actually. this IS reassuring
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arterra View Post
    thx actually. this IS reassuring
    Lol, not sure if your being sarcastic or honest. Either way thank you, haha.
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    Yeah hes being honest it is actually really reassuring of our safety.

    I know quite a bit about cracking, coding, and a little bit about hacking. I know that most cases its either your genius's like the people behind Facebook or faulty software. Odds are its the software and a lot of time. Put it this way, you have more chance of having random numbers and letters for your password and him guessing it correctly than him hacking you for it.
    Now if your the best player in the game, tough luck its very likely that many hackers will ACTUALLY spend the time to hack your account. Thats usually when the makers of the game come in to protect you like they had to with other top players on such games like Wow and RS. Don't think they make some fancy firewall for you, just simply you have contacts and extended security from potential hacks.

    Only thing that has me nervous is this is a newer game, on a simple platform like ipods iphones and ipads. I wouldn't expect a complex security net from it. The fact that its got all of this makes me feel safe.

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    hehe =) i trust SPS perfectly well, and actually, this hacking thing hasnt been sed to me yet. hmmm....
    and even if they do hack my account, so what? lol... just play mw2 instead -_______-
    besides the fact that ive spend 100 bucks on this game on plat =), i dont really lose anything
    i buy all there stuff in plat store
    at one time, i was so rich in plat that i would buy xp pots with them cuz i had no gold xD
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    Agree. There isn't really some spyware program or such that can infect our iDevices anyway. So as long as you don't give out information at all, your perfectly safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arterra View Post
    thx actually. this IS reassuring
    Quote Originally Posted by MurdocX View Post
    Lol, not sure if your being sarcastic or honest. Either way thank you, haha.
    sorry I tried to have that "IS" capitalized to convey that it IS actually good to read.
    internet emotion is hard to read, i know...
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    When browsing the game files I found my password and email stored in plain text in a single document file....
    This could be a problem if your device is jailbroken, a hacker would just have to SSH into your device and download the text file. When rebooting your jailbroken device SSH is automatically enabled (if you have it installed) and 9 out of 10 people don't change their password.

    Why is it not encrypted???

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    Wow good point, I'm guessing that is the saved email and password... O.o Makes sense to encrypt right?
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    Great thread!!! Also if someone "hacks you". STS will most likely restore your account and ban the device that the other person logged in to. (if they did not change there ip address)

    So do not give people your stuff if they say there a hacker. STS can see the normal log in device and the abnormal on.

    Restore for the win!
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    Rofl, STS is awesome it's ridiculously hard to even open PKG files, and decrypt them...
    I know a sh1t load of programming and it's freaking hard...
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    The password is only in your preferences if you choose to save it. If your device is ever accessed by anyone other than yourself, you probably shouldn't be saving your password.

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    Hackers are good. Crackers are bad. Unfortunately the media has always used the term hackers for the bad ones.

    And if someone gets into my phone via any means, I won't really care that they have access to my character. I have other more important data on the phone to worry about.
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    Do people actually believe otherwise that's their account can be hacked? Lol wierd
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    Well, from my experience (Working with the internet fraud in one of the largest banks in the US), getting information takes days, even weeks just to get 1 simple piece of information.

    After obtaining the information, it would take ages to get past the security and encryption.

    Hacking stuff on games is really the lowest form of gaming I have ever seen. And to quote MoarPewPew, STS has logs of everything we do, and a simple device ban would suffice to deter anyone trying to hack.

    And I know Apple would have something to say about it as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omglolwtfbbq View Post
    When browsing the game files I found my password and email stored in plain text in a single document file....
    This could be a problem if your device is jailbroken, a hacker would just have to SSH into your device and download the text file. When rebooting your jailbroken device SSH is automatically enabled (if you have it installed) and 9 out of 10 people don't change their password.

    Why is it not encrypted???
    1. If you jailbreak your i-device, that's your fault for doing so. It's been noted multiple times by various sources that jail broken devices are like computers without a firewall.

    2. That text file is only saved because you clicked that "Remember Me" button at the login screen, other wise the system is pretty solid at keeping your stuff secret.

    3. I would like you to elaborate on you reading the files on your I-Device. I assume you've jail broken it and your viewing them via your computer or some 3rd party software on your I-device? Either way the only way your able to view those files is because your directly in possesion of the device. Unless someone with A LOT of time managed to make a RAT for I-Devices, then got you to download the RAT, only then could they personally go through all your files from their device or computer. Otherwise, it's all pretty much key logging and if remember me is on, it can't log any strokes of keys due to it auto logging in. But remember, with Jail Breaking it leaves you vulnerable to this kind of thing, on a regular apple device your stuff is virtually protected on the device itself.
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