In your opinion, what would it take to get PL back to it's glory days?

[angeldawn]

I'm not sure how to word this ...

I do believe the immaturity level of players, scammers and overinflated egos hurt the community on a whole. I also think we need to look at ourself and how we have changed since our personal "glory days". I'm sure if you say you are still the person and act the exact same way you are lying to yourself or it's close to a miracle. I know I'm a different person now. More vocal not as innocent and intimated. I don't just sit there and let ppl talk out their asses like I once did.

I'm not saying ppl back then were angels or gods because back then ppl weren't 100% helpful or nice to strangers either, which I understand. The community wasn't perfect back then either. Like the GOA tired if answering the question what is that shield where did u get it? And please don't all you GOAs reply and say I always answer and I always help because I was one of those noobs, before reading the forums and educating myself, asked multiple ppl, multiple times and never got a response.

How many of you stay with in your own circle of friends or forumers? How many actually talk to new ppl and accept their requests? How many of you actually say hi back every time someone says hello to you?

We are part of the problem.

[Suentous PO]

I think I understand what your saying Angel, and it's part of the reason I was contrary to the- old players were the best, new ones are the worst- thing. Dismissing the potential and ignoring newer folk can perpetuate some of the very problems we view as part of a "decline".

[MightyMicah]

I definitely get that @Angel and Suentous BO

[Oldcoot]

I do angel,

[CrimsonTider]

I'm not sure how to word this ...

I do believe the immaturity level of players, scammers and overinflated egos hurt the community on a whole. I also think we need to look at ourself and how we have changed since our personal "glory days". I'm sure if you say you are still the person and act the exact same way you are lying to yourself or it's close to a miracle. I know I'm a different person now. More vocal not as innocent and intimated. I don't just sit there and let ppl talk out their asses like I once did.

I'm not saying ppl back then were angels or gods because back then ppl weren't 100% helpful or nice to strangers either, which I understand. The community wasn't perfect back then either. Like the GOA tired if answering the question what is that shield where did u get it? And please don't all you GOAs reply and say I always answer and I always help because I was one of those noobs, before reading the forums and educating myself, asked multiple ppl, multiple times and never got a response.

How many of you stay with in your own circle of friends or forumers? How many actually talk to new ppl and accept their requests? How many of you actually say hi back every time someone says hello to you?

We are part of the problem.

I guess I'm the only exception to the rule. I have conducted myself in the same manner I did when I began 3 years ago. I have made friends along the way (didn't know you till recently), go out of my way to help those in need, and do not allow kids (I consider immature players kids as well because that is the mentality they portray) to dictate my attitude in game. Do I attempt to correct behavior? Yes. But I also know when to walk away. The trick is to ignore. Plain and simple. If you don't feed the troll, the troll will eventually cease.

Do I agree with you that some people change? Yes. I have recently deleted some of my old "friends" for changes in attitude, becoming trolls, and breaking ToS. I have also witnessed others whom I use to consider "respectful" who are now straight up turds. However, I can also give you a list of players who strive to be helpful and are not "fake."

Again, these are my observations and opinions, but trust me when I say if this game were too far gone, Crim would be gone. Hope and patience my friends, hope and patience.

[Caiahar]

I only feel if PL got as much attention as AL, things would be different.
Right now they're giving a bit attention, but not as before.

[MightyMicah]

I only feel if PL got as much attention as AL, things would be different.
Right now they're giving a bit attention, but not as before.

The thing is (as we have all heard many a time), they are a business. They've got bills to pay and kids to feed. Right now AL is raking in the big bucks which means they're going to put effort into that. They hate to see their other games go to waste, I'm sure of it, but there's not much they can do. Hopefully PL will catch on again and start making them money and then they can start giving it more attention as well.

[MightyMicah]

I guess I'm the only exception to the rule. I have conducted myself in the same manner I did when I began 3 years ago. I have made friends along the way (didn't know you till recently), go out of my way to help those in need, and do not allow kids (I consider immature players kids as well because that is the mentality they portray) to dictate my attitude in game. Do I attempt to correct behavior? Yes. But I also know when to walk away. The trick is to ignore. Plain and simple. If you don't feed the troll, the troll will eventually cease.

Do I agree with you that some people change? Yes. I have recently deleted some of my old "friends" for changes in attitude, becoming trolls, and breaking ToS. I have also witnessed others whom I use to consider "respectful" who are now straight up turds. However, I can also give you a list of players who strive to be helpful and are not "fake."

Again, these are my observations and opinions, but trust me when I say if this game were too far gone, Crim would be gone. Hope and patience my friends, hope and patience.

Crim, you're the only person I know who can say, "I'm the exception" and have me believe him 100%. I certainly wish I could say the same about myself. Honestly, though, I started this game when I was 14 (freshman) and now I'm about to be 18 in like a month and I've already started college. Needless to say, a lot of maturing happens in that time period. I can't say I've always been a joy to be around to new players or even old players for that matter, but hear me out when I say I'm giving my best foot forward. I truly believe that with people like you and countless other oldies still lurking around, we could, all together, very well bring PL into the best era it's ever had. With the recent attention it's gotten, I believe people have found that spark of hope that they needed to continue on, so to speak. We'll see what happens in the future, I suppose.

[Oldcoot]

I think it needs some promotion, anyone remember the TV commercial? I laughed hard at it

[Caiahar]

I only feel if PL got as much attention as AL, things would be different.
Right now they're giving a bit attention, but not as before.

The thing is (as we have all heard many a time), they are a business. They've got bills to pay and kids to feed. Right now AL is raking in the big bucks which means they're going to put effort into that. They hate to see their other games go to waste, I'm sure of it, but there's not much they can do. Hopefully PL will catch on again and start making them money and then they can start giving it more attention as well.

Yeah, I know that.
But..I think PL would have the same amount of players and where people pay lotsa $$...if StG focused the attention on PL, not AL.
If attention wasnt given to AL, and gaven to Pl, I think it would be very succesful.

[angeldawn]

@Coot
You are wonderful and here I thought I was special cuz you were my friend.

I do not accept all requests. I do have about 1500 though. I also keep a good bit of 'acquaintances' on my friends request list and still chat with them. I think my logic or justification for it is that by not adding all the randoms it's saves me ALOT of grief. Girls deal with more crap online and it just gets worse.

@Crims
You are just so lovable!! :-D

I don't think the community is too far gone. I just think some of us (myself included) could be better.

[Oldcoot]

Angel, your definitely on my short list of good folk

[Justg]

The fact that you are all here talking about how to be a better community means that you are already an awesome community. Always have been

[killinclaw]

This is the "deepest" thread I've seen in a while and every one has really good opinions and ideas. I have the same sentiments as old coots, having a new cap doesn't necessarily mean a better game, its the lack of content thats available.
And angel hit it right on the nose with her post.
Imo, there are no glory days, I know I didn't have any, and I started playing when sewers was the cap. My name back then was Seanishesin, before I changed it, and I grinded my way through every level. Didnt like to buy plat back then so I did thousands if crush the keeper runs, thousands of bb hide out runs, then when nuris came out, thousands more there. Help was few and between, from same lvl characters and higher characters. The game, pl, was new and exciting but as far as calling them glory days, I dont think so. My glory days are now, these days. I know the system, know my characters, been around the block a few times, have a lot of gold, all the sets I want, aaand have good frnds, in and out of guild.
Now as for future changes, they have to be refreshing, like a new beginning in a sense. New gear that won't offset a lot of things, new pets, I'd even like em to battle, pokemon style lol. New maps added to ones that already exists, along with new quests with rewarded items, gears. Basically new content that will attract new players and hopefully bring others back to pl.
Just my opinion. ..

[killinclaw]

Maaaan, I wish I was a dev lol

[Anatroak]

everythings too expensive in pl half cant afford it and half can afford it. ex.: savage set, swift, hate, shadow, fiery, humanian sets, etc

[Cheenivie]

everythings too expensive in pl half cant afford it and half can afford it. ex.: savage set, swift, hate, shadow, fiery, humanian sets, etc

And 3/4 of the half that can afford it are people who farm/merch hard the 1/4 that's left are either lucky, buy gold with plat or farm plat maps. Lazyness is a factor here..

[Roberto077]

Maaaan, I wish I was a dev lol

Step 1: learn to program
Step 2: be awesome
Step 3 - Application: Imma be a spacetim.
Step 4: take a walk
Step 5: to Austin
Step 6: find a place to live
Step 7: forgot how to program *wink*
Step 8: learn how to program again from a spacetim
Step 9: bribe
Step 10: join a gang called "The Spacetims"
Step 11: raid the STS office
Step 12: return all the stuff you stole using a separate identity
Step 13: go for a walk
Step 14: take a nap
Step 15: re-read all previous steps
Step 16 - Application II: I WANA BE AN SPACE
Step 17: cry in the happy corner for a bit
Step 18: learn how to program a 3rd time
Step 19: go to college
Step 20: go to the STS office
Step 21: get onto one of their puters
Step 22: type in textpad: g.drawstring("i am spacetim now", 10, 10)
Step 23: compile java
Step 24: run java applet
Step 25: u a game dev naow
Step 26: celebrate

[Caiahar]

Step 1: learn to program
Step 2: be awesome
Step 3 - Application: Imma be a spacetim.
Step 4: take a walk
Step 5: to Austin
Step 6: find a place to live
Step 7: forgot how to program *wink*
Step 8: learn how to program again from a spacetim
Step 9: bribe
Step 10: join a gang called "The Spacetims"
Step 11: raid the STS office
Step 12: return all the stuff you stole using a separate identity
Step 13: go for a walk
Step 14: take a nap
Step 15: re-read all previous steps
Step 16 - Application II: I WANA BE AN SPACE
Step 17: cry in the happy corner for a bit
Step 18: learn how to program a 3rd time
Step 19: go to college
Step 20: go to the STS office
Step 21: get onto one of their puters
Step 22: type in textpad: g.drawstring("i am spacetim now", 10, 10)
Step 23: compile java
Step 24: run java applet
Step 25: u a game dev naow
Step 26: celebrate

Lol!!!


All for one, and one for all.

[killinclaw]

Lol, Robert, you're hilarious!