[Guide]: Farming Elite Shuyal - A Rogue's Perspective

[Killerheels]

I love farming elite shuyal I alternate between AS, Nox, Trap, Veil and AS, Nox, Trap, Razor for my elite shuyal runs. In my experience the second combo makes faster runs, but is a terrible pot sink. I inhaled my fully stocked potions (<10k each) within 3 farming days, as opposed to the usual 4-5 days when I use the first combo. Besides, many tanks and sorcs appreciate it when u run with a veil. I prefer to drop veil on grouped mobs since I move in close range in order to be able to use some dagger auto attacks in between my trap, veil, charge nox, tap aim combo. The only thing I hate about this build is not having the dash option for maps and going thru bosses, but it works for me

[GunJack]

Nice guild Zeus. Well thought out. I'll vouch for your build, considering I have personal experience as a tank it's fluid. I enjoy tanking with you. +1

[Prioritize]

Charging Nox is a complete waste for one reason: it slows down your crit stacking on aimed shot. And for elites, you should be using shadow piercer, not trap or razor. Trap and razor are for tombs and maybe normal maps.
Other than that, excellent guide.

Coming from a s2 timed elite leaderboarder.

[Zuzeq]

Charging Nox is a complete waste for one reason: it slows down your crit stacking on aimed shot. And for elites, you should be using shadow piercer, not trap or razor. Trap and razor are for tombs and maybe normal maps.
Other than that, excellent guide.

Coming from a s2 timed elite leaderboarder.

It takes 2.1 seconds to charge Nox Bolt, Aim Shot's crit benefit lasts 5.1 seconds. If your crit from AS goes away when you charge Nox you just have slow fingers and then i'd suggest NOT charging anything.

[HeartlessR]

It can be a few reasons why people wont charge. example is
I play on my android sometimes but mainly play on PC. When im on my droid its too annoying to charge something every 2 seconds other than veil. So id rather just tap nox. Of course when im on PC and theres no lag or hassle ill charge it for shuyal maps. normally i wont for anything under nord considering enemies will die after a aimed-nox-pierce combo . the other reason can either be laziness or they really believe its useless.
If your team doesnt have mages or your mages arent very well geared. then the nox box really shines.

as for the person claiming pierce is better then traps to each his own but imo pierce is amazing for every map that isnt shuyal or nord.. the record holders atm for shuyal have traps and pierce in there build. which is also what i use. mainly because I play on pc so im able to switch my traps out for pierce with no hassle.

[Zeus]

Charging Nox is a complete waste for one reason: it slows down your crit stacking on aimed shot. And for elites, you should be using shadow piercer, not trap or razor. Trap and razor are for tombs and maybe normal maps.
Other than that, excellent guide.

Coming from a s2 timed elite leaderboarder.

That works for pretty much any map except Shuyal. Since the guide is geared towards Shuyal farming, I gave a build most efficient & effective for just that.

In a timed run, the rules are different, but you'd still need traps and veil for Shuyal elite records.

The truth is, there's a time and place for both strategies but I can pretty much guarantee that for Elite Shuyal farming, this is the most effective & efficient build that one can get.

[AL_Newbie]

respec'ed with this layout and I'm liking it. Just need to stop charging the traps and figure out how to setup traps... lol overall I like ur guide Zeus just little more practicing laying traps

[Zlolouux]

Good guide. Very helpful thanks.

[phillyr]

Very nice starter guide. If u guts r running with an inexperienced mage, suggest that he drops clock as soon as the trap pulls. That way all mobs are grouped and much easier to widdle the health down. Its a great starter guide, make your own tweaks to fit your playstyle.

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[nikolajus112]

Finally created rogue alt so rode this tut, not bad at all but ik some more tips :3 which makes runs rly easyer. But this tutorial good too!

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[notfaded1]

Finally created rogue alt so rode this tut, not bad at all but ik some more tips :3 which makes runs rly easyer. But this tutorial good too!

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I would be interested in hearing these other tips nikolajus112! If it makes shuyal elite runs even easier lets hear about it... I know I'm game?

[ghosthspear]

Its nice to know it can help me tnx zeus

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[Serancha]

I would far rather have the additional damage from Shadow Veil than have a skill with an excessive cooldown time like razor, which actually steals the aggro from your warrior, making you need the dodge buff it gives. Shadow veil allows your tank to do his job, while you dish out your boosted damage. If you are running without a tank, then the 20% armour buff will help keep your team alive.

I agree with Zeus in that there are times when charging nox is appropriate. It doesn't slow down your aimed stack, and the benefits it gives outweigh the short delay from charging. Use pierce instead? You hit one target - hard - but the cost is that your other skills are forced into cooldown, so you have a delay before you can continue hitting. I adore pierce - it is great for sniping and kill shots, but when faced with a large dogpile of mobs, it is not the appropriate choice.

Builds and strategies for timed leaderboard runs are designed on the assumption you are running with the most highly skilled and geared players in the game. Things that work best with these exclusive leaderboard players are not always realistic for a legendary geared player who doesn't have seasons of experience and a pro team. You need to account for the fact that most of the people you run with will NOT have read the guide, will not have optimal builds, and will not consider party ability before pulling the ENTIRE map of mobs to one place and causing mass hysteria.

This is an excellent guide for 95% of players to run elite. The other 5% - you don't need a guide to know what to do (although sometimes being a bit more open minded to different techniques might actually make for better results )

[notfaded1]

I would far rather have the additional damage from Shadow Veil than have a skill with an excessive cooldown time like razor, which actually steals the aggro from your warrior, making you need the dodge buff it gives. Shadow veil allows your tank to do his job, while you dish out your boosted damage. If you are running without a tank, then the 20% armour buff will help keep your team alive.

I agree with Zeus in that there are times when charging nox is appropriate. It doesn't slow down your aimed stack, and the benefits it gives outweigh the short delay from charging. Use pierce instead? You hit one target - hard - but the cost is that your other skills are forced into cooldown, so you have a delay before you can continue hitting. I adore pierce - it is great for sniping and kill shots, but when faced with a large dogpile of mobs, it is not the appropriate choice.

Builds and strategies for timed leaderboard runs are designed on the assumption you are running with the most highly skilled and geared players in the game. Things that work best with these exclusive leaderboard players are not always realistic for a legendary geared player who doesn't have seasons of experience and a pro team. You need to account for the fact that most of the people you run with will NOT have read the guide, will not have optimal builds, and will not consider party ability before pulling the ENTIRE map of mobs to one place and causing mass hysteria.

This is an excellent guide for 95% of players to run elite. The other 5% - you don't need a guide to know what to do (although sometimes being a bit more open minded to different techniques might actually make for better results )

I totally concur with this... veil like nox rocks charged on harder mobs like shuyal and above. And right again about about veil... watch how quickly, players in the know, will jump right in ur veil when it comes up around hard hitting mobs! :^}

[AL_Newbie]

with the new expansion should you update for the next 5 skill points or just drop it in int?

[notfaded1]

with the new expansion should you update for the next 5 skill points or just drop it in int?

Actually a bunch of us... including Parth (zeus) I believe are and have actually been running with a modified version of this before expansion even hit which included maxing out crit now as well... I'd put points in crit before more in int if you have the points first :^}

[AL_Newbie]

Actually a bunch of us... including Parth (zeus) I believe are and have actually been running with a modified version of this before expansion even hit which included maxing out crit now as well... I'd put points in crit before more in int if you have the points first :^}

I put the 4 points I have in critical Thx!