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Guide deleted sorry.
Last edited by Hoardseeker; 01-02-2014 at 07:27 AM.
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Last edited by Hoardseeker; 01-02-2014 at 07:28 AM.
Lol.. Even the font is the same as Parf's Guide.
It's an "ok" guide, but I would add more info and personal experience on your Elite Runs.
After all, this is a "sorcerer's perspective" not a "rogue's copy & paste perspective."
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Hmm a lot of copy, paste, cut this, edit that and rewrite those
anyway nice job
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Last edited by Anarchist; 01-01-2014 at 08:00 AM.
This guide was ok but I suggest you use Tarlok Versatility gear because your health is very low, my mage has 3.1k health and 846 armour. Also I suggest you run lightning instead of gale because it hits harder and using gale just for bosses is pointless in my opinion.
Yes, your guide is ok. Just like anyona, i also suggest that you use lightning instead of gale. But if you really want gale to easily dodge and to get away from near death, you can just drop heal. IMO, heal is good but it has a long cooldown and during the time it is cooling down, you already got a lot of damage from the hard hitting mobs of shuyal. Yes, it is good if you want to support your teammates and heal them and also giving them mana. But if you want to hit hard like the shuyal mobs 3 damage skills is good with a shield on. You and your teammates can always use pots and you can also save pots by running with a really good tank. Btw, the skills i use are fire, ice, lightning (for boss, switch ice/clock away), clock and shield.
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yeah but I get 3K health with malison and I got 906 armour tooOriginally Posted by Anyona:1405998
Still though, I would choose health over damage anyday, thats why I reccomended Tarlok Versatility because it has, good armour, good health and still good damage. As for your build.... Personally I dont like it gale is a skill which is meant for aoe not single target, if you want to use gale switch it with lifegiver.
I run 2/5 lifegiver
4/5 Clock
4/5 Fire
4/5 Shield
4/5 Lightning
5/5 Str Passive
5/5 Int Passive
5/5 Damage
2/5 Dex
And everyone is right, you used 95% of what Zues wrote, in the future try to make your guides more original
yep because there are many mages dont know how to use their skills and how to build up their mageOriginally Posted by EliteFamily:1405984
Sorry not to sound rude, but may I? Thanks.
How can you account for trash mobs as a mage? Forget the boss for now, again how CAN YOU account for trash mobs as a mage? In Elite Shuyal you think the bosses are hard? LOLWUT? The trash mobs are the biggest factor in any Elite Shuyal Map. That is what makes or breaks the run. If you can't get pass goobers, how are you going to go for the goob?
To me, you're just doing a simple copy & pasta as Parf's guide which I say is top notch for a Rogue.
How many Elite Shuyal runs have you run as an endgame mage? How can you justify what you say is correct? Do you have any backup to your claims etc. with the builds etc.?
I'll tell you right now, that build IMO is not suited for running endgame. How can I say that? Well not to flap my gums and stroke my epeen, but I will. I've run and lead TONS and I mean TONS of endgame elite runs especially Shuyal with no issues ever. I train a majority of my newcomers into Shuyal with no issues. I can solo a majority of those maps, bosses included (won't mention which, it isn't easy). You on the other hand have not reached the endgame cap, have not really experienced whats it like to run into an "OHSH!T" run and do damage control to save the run.
To summarize, you do not have the claims to backup this guide. I do not approve of this guide. To me a majority of it is copy & pasta from Parf's guide. Try to be original and create your own. I mean the title is even the same less the "Sorc's Perspective".
Oh hey, Happy New Year though.
Calm down man lol, why get so worked up about someone trying to help? Mr badass shuyal runner.
You want the cliffnotes version?
1) Copy & Pasta, unoriginal. 95% is based off of Parf's guide
2) No claims to support his C&P guide. It's like saying yea "trust me", lolwut?
3) Giving misinformed information is one of the worst things you can do in anything. People take what you say and they try it out themselves and when it doesn't work (guide debunked), they wasted maybe tons of their own time and money to "try" this guide.
4) I am badass and awesome.
inb4 why so srs with joker face.
Last edited by keikali; 01-01-2014 at 10:31 AM.
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Oh my way was very constructive. It means to stop plagiarizing other people's hard work and throwing in a couple of your own words to pawn it off as your own work. Look at his thread creation history, I haven't really seen any concrete useful topics. Remember that 10K AP thread he created? LOLwut? Yea the one what Avshow won, whelp, thats that I guess.
FYI even though he gave credit to Parf et. al., Parf NEVER said it was okay to take his work and use it as a basis for a guide. I asked Parf myself and he had no clue this thread was even created till I directed him to it. (Sorry for putting you on the spot Parf). Also I highly doubt Emma or Jon okay'd this either. So hey welcome to textbook plagiarism 101.
You along with others can defend him all you want, but the truth is this guide should be debunked and not even considered work. Truth hurts, deal with it.
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