Overpriced Mythic Weapons (Level 36)

[carloanddar]

Hi,

I just want to share something about level 36 Mythic Weapons being so overpriced in game especially the Mythic Daggers for rogues. It seems that at the time that STS released this Mythic Weapons few had the chance to get some unlike the Level 31 Mythic Weapons (Mythic Gun, Mythic Bow and Mythic Sword). I think this is the reason why Level 36 Mythic Weapons really cost that much. Imagine 30m-33m for a Perfect Gemed Mythic Daggers when there is an Arcane Weapon for Warrior that you can buy for 34-37m. So what's my point in sharing this? I just wish that STS will give their players a chance again to get the Level 36 Mythic Weapons from Locked Grand Crates and Elite Golden Puzzlebox so that those who really doesn't have that much gold will have the chance of owning a Level 36 Mythic Weapon. That's all! Cheers and Have Fun!

[Ebezaanec]

If you aren't willing to pay for the myth weapons, then wait for the next event like everyone else to loot them yourself or buy them when they drop in auction price.

[Energizeric]

Yeah, I have to admit that I declined to buy a mythic staff a couple of months back when they were around 10m because I had been burned the previous season on the mythic gun. I paid 8m for my mythic gun, and then saw it drop to as low as 1.5m after repeated double odds mythic weapons weekends. Then more recently it rebounded in price back to around 3-4m. So I figured for sure we would see the mythic staffs released multiple times, and perhaps even in a double odds weekend. However, we have only seen one weekend (two if you count the halloween versions), and neither was a double odds weekend, so the prices have stayed high and even gotten higher.

I guess that's what makes AL have an interesting economy... You never know what they are going to do with drop rates and such -- they always keep you guessing. I don't mind that at all actually. Sometimes you get lucky, and other times you don't.

Mythic weapons should be rare. I always prefer they keep drop rates low on such items anyway, even if it means I cannot afford one. At least I have something to work towards then, instead of being bored and having all of the best gear in the game with nothing left to work towards.

[DagnyTaggart]

I understand your frustration. I poked fun at a guild member for buying the daggers back when they were 14m. A couple weeks ago I paid about 20m (one grand gem). Now I wouldn't even consider selling below 28m. (all grand gem)

I have the same problem with Sammy. Just be patient and if you have a few million you can merch your way up fairly quickly if you do it correctly. There are some good guides for this here on the forums.

Best of luck.

[Zeus]

I understand your frustration. I poked fun at a guild member for buying the daggers back when they were 14m. A couple weeks ago I paid about 20m (one grand gem). Now I wouldn't even consider selling below 28m. (all grand gem)

I have the same problem with Sammy. Just be patient and if you have a few million you can merch your way up fairly quickly if you do it correctly. There are some good guides for this here on the forums.

Best of luck.

This.

While I agree that there should be another mythic weapon weekend, that doesn't mean that the current supply is overpriced. The mythic daggers are the best item in game for a rogue. There is not even an arcane item close to being equivalent, so it having arcane prices is more than understandable.

The other items like glaive and orbital are priced rather accurately in comparison to their arcane counterparts.

Remember, if it was overpriced, people wouldn't be willing to pay it. The fact is that pretty much everyone who has these daggers do not want to let go of them, so as a result, there's a rapidly increasing price to persuade people to let go of their set of daggers.

[falmear]

They need to have another mythic weekend. These weapons are over priced. I hope they introduce another double mythic weekend soon because it will help correct the price on these weapons. Instead of doing double chance on arcane & mythic eggs, they should have done a double chance on mythic weapons. At current prices these weapons are equivalent to buying an arcane egg. Sorry but that is over priced. Arcane eggs which are the best pets in the game aren't as expensive as some of these mythics. And with a pet they won't get obsoleted in the next expansion. So don't believe the hype, these weapons are over priced.

[Sokpuppet]

They need to have another mythic weekend. These weapons are over priced. I hope they introduce another double mythic weekend soon because it will help correct the price on these weapons. Instead of doing double chance on arcane & mythic eggs, they should have done a double chance on mythic weapons. At current prices these weapons are equivalent to buying an arcane egg. Sorry but that is over priced. Arcane eggs which are the best pets in the game aren't as expensive as some of these mythics. And with a pet they won't get obsoleted in the next expansion. So don't believe the hype, these weapons are over priced.

Something is worth whatever people are willing to pay for it. Nothing is ever overpriced until people quit buying it. Supply and demand sets the price as it does with everything else in any economy.

[eeknoh]

Something is worth whatever people are willing to pay for it. Nothing is ever overpriced until people quit buying it. Supply and demand sets the price as it does with everything else in any economy.

I kind of agree with this, but the price atm -feels- to high. Arcane pets are much more common than arcane weapons, and mythic weapons are much more common than arcane eggs. So in theory, mythic weapons should be cheaper. But Irena free market. Free markets have more expensive cat litter than PlayStations at times, from what I understand. Its ALL supply and demand, and what people are willing to pay.

[Milan Lame Man]

I haven't mislead anyone and EVERY single person that's done what I've told them has experienced the same results from farming. Each run should take you about 30 seconds if you've got a pet with a speed bonus equipped. 120 runs per hour. You're saying that you only get 4 per hour with lep and reroll elixer. So 1 crate for every 30 runs?! That's ridiculous. If that's the numbers you've attained so far then you haven't done enough runs to get a clear result. I have guildies doing these runs every day, some making a mil every 2 or 3 days.

Well I only run Jarl when I get reroll elix (and Lepre) and I'm happy to get 2 locked in 30 minutes. I wonder how you get so many.

Omg triple post...yea I suck at life.

When you edit a post, there's an option to delete it... I think.

[Fauksuras]

I feel it's the gems thats causing most of the stir. It's really hard to find any clean mythic items and people feel the right (some rightfully in the case of Grand gems) to inflate the prices.

Seriously people 3 regular gems don't merit an increase of 50% in price or even 25%
Grands is another story, but still, a fresh influx of virgin items would help.

[Energizeric]

Seriously people 3 regular gems don't merit an increase of 50% in price or even 25%
Grands is another story, but still, a fresh influx of virgin items would help.

A regular gem costs 2-5k. Even if it takes 100 tries, that means a cost of 200-500k for a grand gem. Maybe you can get away with doubling that figure, figuring some profit for time spent, although I never lost any time trying for super gems as I just started the crafting when I went to sleep for the night each night. So at best a grand gem is worth a million gold, but probably more like a few hundred thousand. And a grand gem on a mythic or arcane weapon is worth no more than a grand gem on a 10k legendary item. It still takes the same time and cost to get one regardless of which item the gem is on. So no percentage price increase is warranted.

3 regular gems on an item is worth 8-10k. That's it. Even on a 20m mythic weapon, 3 regular gems still only adds a 8-10k premium.

[Fauksuras]

A regular gem costs 2-5k. Even if it takes 100 tries, that means a cost of 200-500k for a grand gem. Maybe you can get away with doubling that figure, figuring some profit for time spent, although I never lost any time trying for super gems as I just started the crafting when I went to sleep for the night each night. So at best a grand gem is worth a million gold, but probably more like a few hundred thousand. And a grand gem on a mythic or arcane weapon is worth no more than a grand gem on a 10k legendary item. It still takes the same time and cost to get one regardless of which item the gem is on. So no percentage price increase is warranted.

3 regular gems on an item is worth 8-10k. That's it. Even on a 20m mythic weapon, 3 regular gems still only adds a 8-10k premium.

Exactly. Grand gems i feel you're paying for time or plat and cost of gems or farm time. So it's a fair value (sometimes), but prices people list for items with regular gems (not just mythic and arcane but many legendaries) are just silly.

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[Fauksuras]

And yeah I agree, I for one try to regem when im sleeping so I guess time isn't a fair way to describe it as much as you're paying for their perseverance.

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[wvhills]

the thing that i don't like is u can only get mythic daggers or arcane pets by being a good merch (which I'm not). Even opening a ton of crates doesn't guarantee anything. I wish the more u played or farmed the more chance u had of getting one. I farm a lot but I'm never going to be able to afford a 30 million gold item by selling elite gold puzzle boxes for 70-100k a pop.

[Sokpuppet]

the thing that i don't like is u can only get mythic daggers or arcane pets by being a good merch (which I'm not). Even opening a ton of crates doesn't guarantee anything. I wish the more u played or farmed the more chance u had of getting one. I farm a lot but I'm never going to be able to afford a 30 million gold item by selling elite gold puzzle boxes for 70-100k a pop.

I disagree with that. I'm a terrible merchant. Generally when I'm ready to sell something, I'm so desperate to get rid of it for fear of the price dropping that I sell it for cheaper than market price. I've never purchased plat from STS but I've spent probably around $50 or so on offers through trialpay and nativex for plat during the recent bonus events. $50 in the 6 months or so I've been playing I equate to pretty much nothing. I basically just hoarded plat using it only for reroll elixers and then spending it on tarlok runs during the winter event to farm for imbued gold chests. Between Tarlok and crate farming Jarl I've been able to purchase an Arcane Maul and all mythic gear. It requires a lot of mind-numbing farming but it can be done without ever spending a dime on the game or merching.

With no event going on crates typically settle in the 10k range. Running Jarl thousands and thousands of times I'd say you'll average somewhere between 10-15 crates per hour. So you'll average around 125k per hour selling your crates at 10k apiece. So every 8 hours you'll make a mil. If you can increase your inventory size and hoard them until an event you can make around double that if you sell at the right time. I farmed from helloween until winter event and held about 750 crates between 2 characters, and sold my crates for 18k each. I'm not saying its easy and that you can do it fast, but why would anyone want the best equipment in the game to be able to be obtained with just a few days of farming?

[kixkaxx]

I disagree with that. I'm a terrible merchant. Generally when I'm ready to sell something, I'm so desperate to get rid of it for fear of the price dropping that I sell it for cheaper than market price. I've never purchased plat from STS but I've spent probably around $50 or so on offers through trialpay and nativex for plat during the recent bonus events. $50 in the 6 months or so I've been playing I equate to pretty much nothing. I basically just hoarded plat using it only for reroll elixers and then spending it on tarlok runs during the winter event to farm for imbued gold chests. Between Tarlok and crate farming Jarl I've been able to purchase an Arcane Maul and all mythic gear. It requires a lot of mind-numbing farming but it can be done without ever spending a dime on the game or merching.

With no event going on crates typically settle in the 10k range. Running Jarl thousands and thousands of times I'd say you'll average somewhere between 10-15 crates per hour. So you'll average around 125k per hour selling your crates at 10k apiece. So every 8 hours you'll make a mil. If you can increase your inventory size and hoard them until an event you can make around double that if you sell at the right time. I farmed from helloween until winter event and held about 750 crates between 2 characters, and sold my crates for 18k each. I'm not saying its easy and that you can do it fast, but why would anyone want the best equipment in the game to be able to be obtained with just a few days of farming?

I am very very interested in how you can get 10 lock per hour...I farm lock for 10 hours per day and on average it's 1.5 per hour with lep or 4 with lep and luck

Don't mislead others



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[Sokpuppet]

I am very very interested in how you can get 10 lock per hour...I farm lock for 10 hours per day and on average it's 1.5 per hour with lep or 4 with lep and luck

Don't mislead others



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I haven't mislead anyone and EVERY single person that's done what I've told them has experienced the same results from farming. Each run should take you about 30 seconds if you've got a pet with a speed bonus equipped. 120 runs per hour. You're saying that you only get 4 per hour with lep and reroll elixer. So 1 crate for every 30 runs?! That's ridiculous. If that's the numbers you've attained so far then you haven't done enough runs to get a clear result. I have guildies doing these runs every day, some making a mil every 2 or 3 days.

[kixkaxx]

I haven't mislead anyone and EVERY single person that's done what I've told them has experienced the same results from farming. Each run should take you about 30 seconds if you've got a pet with a speed bonus equipped. 120 runs per hour. You're saying that you only get 4 per hour with lep and reroll elixer. So 1 crate for every 30 runs?! That's ridiculous. If that's the numbers you've attained so far then you haven't done enough runs to get a clear result. I have guildies doing these runs every day, some making a mil every 2 or 3 days.

1 lock per 20 run...most time you reloot you can not get a lock, besides that, you have to rest and you have to empty the inventory slot

what you do is just doing the calculation, I strongly doubt anyone can keep doing 1 run in 30sec for 10 hours

For me I have got 3m pve kills from farming lock in km3, and most of time I farm lock at jarl. I can confirm my words



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[Fauksuras]

That's an interesting point you raise, not everybody can be a good merch. I'm not.
And like energizeric says if you have a good way to make money you can't share it or it simply won't be a good way anymore.

To that I alwayd add that when everybody is merching, who will buy at a price from which you can profit?

[Zeus]

As I said before, mythic weapons DO need another weekend.

However, as I have also said, the prices set for them right now are not overpriced. If they were, you would not have multiple people buying fully gemmed daggers for 30m+. The supply is nonexistant and the demand is skyhigh. For any merchants, that is a dream item as with no supply, they are pretty much able to set any price they want.

Also, the platinum cost for super-gemming mythic items is like crates, only the drop rate is higher and the plat per "crate" is more expensive. Personally, I have spent close to 2k platinum super-gemming 3 items. Now, keep in mind that is just 3 items. Looking at the plat to gold cost as a way to price super gems isn't accurate considering that not many with platinum do the plat to gold conversion.

Lastly, I do agree that normal gems should not call for an increase in price. However, demand on these weapons - mainly daggers - have been crazy currently so people are willing to pay for whatever that they can get. Hence why selling normal gemmed daggers for 30m+ is certainly feasible.