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    Quote Originally Posted by Riccits View Post
    i was wrong... its really no need to buy expensive stuff....
    for example i boost cyber/shadow (doesnt matter) in 2 steps. first i equip swamp stuff to boost some INT, then i equip my old worthless thoth stuff lvl 45 and then the 50 stuff. may make some loadout for
    cant you put thoth stuff into first loadout? :S oh nv you must mean lv45 lolz
    well still find a combination to have as much ao2 stuff on first loadout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riccits View Post
    i was wrong... its really no need to buy expensive stuff....
    for example i boost cyber/shadow (doesnt matter) in 2 steps. first i equip swamp stuff to boost some INT, then i equip my old worthless thoth stuff lvl 45 and then the 50 stuff. may make some loadout for
    Dude easier way just use you swamp stuff but for str substitute the helm with the jacobs helm int gear is still the same you don't need Thoth or anything else. I have full hate and shadow and still equip them with 4 loadouts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shemron View Post
    Dude easier way just use you swamp stuff but for str substitute the helm with the jacobs helm int gear is still the same you don't need Thoth or anything else. I have full hate and shadow and still equip them with 4 loadouts.
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    thats really helpful thanx

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    Added a "Tips and Tricks" section.

    Have been fiddling around with my stats (thanks mystical for the help) and I finally got around to posting it up here.

    Still need to confirm some stuff so if anyone has experience out there on the stat points I mentioned, please let us know!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arterra View Post
    know what? i can tell that this guide is pretty good. so good in fact, that just today it had 38 views. a week ago, 71 views one day.
    How do i know this? i track my most popular photobucket images. The guiding images in the first page of mine are constantly in my most viewed graph.

    devs, these are serious stats. this thread is in real need of a sticky. meanwhile, moving it to general discussion too could help. (maybe)
    repeating. this is worth a sticky. i cant get these images off my top viewed! every day more than 20, about an average of 40.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellyidol View Post
    Added a "Tips and Tricks" section.

    Have been fiddling around with my stats (thanks mystical for the help) and I finally got around to posting it up here.

    Still need to confirm some stuff so if anyone has experience out there on the stat points I mentioned, please let us know!

    Thanks Ellyidol on this great and useful dual spec guide!

    Btw, i got a query on your recent tips and tricks section. You mentioned that for a dual build min str is 122. i have tried that but was not able to equip my rift set even after i boost my str from 4pcs of +7str (lv39 and below pinks) and then follow by 4pcs of +8str (lv45 pinks). I can only equip my rift set with min str 123, but then need total 3 loadout space. 1st loadout with 4pcs of +7str to boost from 123+28=151, then second loadout with 4pcs or 3pcs of +8 str from 151+4/3=154/155 and the final loadout with rift set. Am I missing anything or not doing the right thing here? Appreciate your advise. Thanks.

    PS: No problem to equip the shadow/cosmo gear since int = 130.

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    You're welcome, more thanks to the other players in the thread

    When you try to equip the Rift set, do you do it manually or a load out? I'm currently using 120 str + (1) +7 str helm, and 3 pcs +8 str gear. So 120 + 7 + 8 + 8 + 8 = 151.

    I did need to respec though. You need to have one loadout as the rift set already. So I went 126 str, set my loadouts, and respec'd to reduce my str to 120, and raise it up 1 by 1 to test what the minimum was.

    So it goes:

    1. 126 + 28 = 154 Str
    2. Set one of my loadouts for the Rift set.
    3. Respec to reduce my str to 120. Equip booster set, then try rift. If it doesn't equip, put one more str on.
    4. Repeat until rift set is actually able to be equipped. I did 122, but now was able to bring it to 120.

    Let me know if it works!

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    Thanks! So the trick is to make use of an additional respec.

    I was previously trying out dual spec for the first time without any rift set as the loadout. So i have to put on the rift manually.
    So now I already have one of my loadouts for the rift set. What I have to do is to repeat your step 3 and 4 above. I will definitely try it out after my work.

    But just curious, the minimum req for any of the rift set is 154 str(ol helm). As you have describe above, you only manage to get 151 str after the booster set, how does the system do the calculation and allows you to use the loadout for the rift set? And any tips on the booster set? Such as the +8 must be at least helm/armor/1H/shield?

    Thanks.

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    Yup, it should work now. Let me know!

    Yeah, mathematically it doesn't work either, but for some reason the loadout allows it to.

    As for the booster set, I personally use 1 +7 Helm, since it uses below 120 str, then I use 3 pcs of Osiris afterwards. I'm using lower level'd Osiris gear though since I'm also prepping up for the 55 expansion. The same thing should work with the loadouts, even if it says you can't equip it, the loadout should be able to

    Mine is 120 + 31, the 31 already being in the loadout. After 151 str, use rift loadout and it works.

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    Thanks on your great tips!

    I will try it out later. Hopefully i have the right Osiris gear (lv45 and below) to do the magic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joooox View Post
    Thanks on your great tips!

    I will try it out later. Hopefully i have the right Osiris gear (lv45 and below) to do the magic.
    You're welcome.

    I don't think you need any 45 below pieces for dual spec on 50. Maybe on 55, maybe. Unless you want to use all osiris for your dual spec in 50, then yes you probably need below 45 :P

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    Ellyidol,

    Thanks, it's working! I am able to equip rift set from loadout with the minimum Str of 120. Same setup as yours: Helm(+7), 1H(+8), armor(+8) and shield (+8).
    Btw, I do a test and notice that you can only have maximum one piece of lv45 (+8) for the dual spec on 50. Your stat will not be able to meet the minimum str req for 2 or more lv45 pieces with only one loadout.

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    Yup, I try to get my pieces from 37-43 and I'm usually able to use them. The helm helps since its level 25, so I'm able to equip helm first which boosts my str to enough.

    I'm not sure if that is a bug or an exploit, so I'll have to see if its actually legal and proper to announce this.

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    would it be possible to equip a lv 55 dex wep while wearing lv 55 str gear? if you were going to do a mixed equip, what would the highest possible combination be? lv 55 and lv 50 or lower?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixillicus View Post
    would it be possible to equip a lv 55 dex wep while wearing lv 55 str gear? if you were going to do a mixed equip, what would the highest possible combination be? lv 55 and lv 50 or lower?
    Nope you can't do a 55 dex with 55 str.

    Have yet to try 55/50 below combination though.

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    Added a new "Loadout Assumption" section in the guide.

    The example used here is based on my most recent Dual Spec Guide (For Level 55), but the general concept is still the same, only the numbers are different.

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    Thx a lot for this awesome dual spec guide !

    Just created a new character yesterday and pushed this pally already to lvl 20…

    I’m excited

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    Updated the thread to apply the new dual spec system.

    I erased more than edited, really

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    Lol nice conclusion.
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