Demise of Singe

[Pentavia]

I think that Singe should be the new top arcane pet, Samael already had his reign for quite a while.

[Deadroth]

Agree with above. Singe should be slightly better than samael.

[Slappityslap]

Just scale pet stats with your current level and the problem with twinks is done and buried. Like +5 +10 +15 to your primary stat and so on. When you cap, you get the highest boost from the pet. Catch my drift?

Then sts makes endgame pvp to only capped players so no 40s can whine about being killed because you had op pet.

[falmear]

Here is the original stats:



Going back to the original stats isn't going to make any difference on the price. Singe only lost -5 STR, -5 DEX & -5 INT. You are telling me if they add these stats back then he doubles in value and suddenly becomes OP? The only class which Singe is really good for is warriors. For every other class there is some down side. Specifically the lacking of crit, panic and health/mana regen. You give up Samael you lose 10% crit for me thats huge. So if going back to the original stats is going to make people happy then I'm for that but it won't change anything in terms of price and demand. Also I hope they nerf Samael's banish. Too many people abuse this in PvE and this may be the one thing which may cause Singe's price to go up.

[Pentavia]

It would be very nice to see Singe with the stats of Samael, but yeah that will never happen XD Though I really am hoping STG will buff Singe in the future, and will put him into his rightful place as the arcane pet of the season

[keikali]

Reverting Singe back to its Original Stats before the release nerf along with giving him some Crit % or even movement % would be a great addition. And no its not going to increase your prices by ten fold.

I have Singe ONLY for my Warrior which has helped greatly in PvE Tanking. Would love to see some buffs to the Arcane Pet of the season.

[Limsi]

@falmear I agree that there won't be any rise in price even if the original stats were implemented again; I guess a little touch to the crit department would be appreciated. I might be blinded with my own selfish desires so feel free to fill me in what you have to say about it. Thanks!

[falmear]

@falmear I agree that there won't be any rise in price even if the original stats were implemented again; I guess a little touch to the crit department would be appreciated. I might be blinded with my own selfish desires so feel free to fill me in what you have to say about it. Thanks!

They should drop 4% damage reduction and replace it with 5% crit or replace it with a speed boost. 4% damage reduction isn't useful for any class but warriors. Then you combine that on top of +40 STR (or +45 STR with original stats), for a warrior that can means they can take more damage. But you can see why Singe is the way Singe is given how elites are. Go back to this thread:

http://www.spacetimestudios.com/show...new-Arcane-Pet

Other reasons the stats feel a bit high is also tied to the release of the new expansion coming soon. With the itemization changes coming into play to help build out future content, this little guy can help make up some of the notable difference in gear through the initial parts of the Dragon Enclave expansion.

My first reaction was, I need an arcane pet to help me play the next expansion? So when I read this I knew next season would be very hard. And I can tell you I am dancing like a fool every run trying not to be one shot with varying degrees of success. And I have seen rogues with Singe get one shot by an elite mob (not a boss). So the 4% damage reduction is not helping mages or rogues. This is like Whim's dodge, not very useful. And should be replaced with something else. But since its been out there for so long, someone will get mad if they drop it. If I was a warrior I would get Singe because I see it as a tanking pet. For a mage I can't see any use for Singe. I'd rather use Whim or Samael. When designing arcane pets they need to consider how these stats apply to each class. If it only really benefits 1/3rd of the player base, then in my opinion its not designed very well.

[keikali]

They should drop 4% damage reduction and replace it with 5% crit or replace it with a speed boost. 4% damage reduction isn't useful for any class but warriors. Then you combine that on top of +40 STR (or +45 STR with original stats), for a warrior that can means they can take more damage. But you can see why Singe is the way Singe is given how elites are. Go back to this thread:

http://www.spacetimestudios.com/show...new-Arcane-Pet



My first reaction was, I need an arcane pet to help me play the next expansion? So when I read this I knew next season would be very hard. And I can tell you I am dancing like a fool every run trying not to be one shot with varying degrees of success. And I have seen rogues with Singe get one shot by an elite mob (not a boss). So the 4% damage reduction is not helping mages or rogues. This is like Whim's dodge, not very useful. And should be replaced with something else. But since its been out there for so long, someone will get mad if they drop it. If I was a warrior I would get Singe because I see it as a tanking pet. For a mage I can't see any use for Singe. I'd rather use Whim or Samael. When designing arcane pets they need to consider how these stats apply to each class. If it only really benefits 1/3rd of the player base, then in my opinion its not designed very well.

I picked this up mainly for the tanking abilities it can provide to my Warrior. I'd be pretty irate if they dropped the DR %, then again like you have mentioned its too far in the game where they would make such a big change. I have a Rogue guildie who popped one and capped it, he REGRETS ever doing so. I would rather prefer Whims also on my Mage rather than the Singe. It lacks the Crit my Sam provides my Mage and even a movement boost that Whim would give me. And I'm looking at this from strictly a PvE standpoint.

I suggest that they should revert back to the Original Stats and then throw the following on it: Crit % or Movement % and some Armor like Abaddon or Prance has. Again I'm looking at this from a PvE standpoint.

[Jimtoad]

there only thing makes singe bad its the passive ability.....

[Carapace]

Thanks for the feedback guys. Not sure what changes we are going to make just yet if any, however if we do there will not be a swapping of primary passive bonuses. Removing DR to add Crit for example is subjective, and changes the entire feel of the pet. Very dangerous, so any changes that are made will be buffing/adding potentially of stats but not a removal or change in the primary purpose of the pet.

He's being used by a lot of warriors, as he should be because of the 4% DR tanking in Elites, but he probably does need some attention for the other classes. We will take a look, discuss, and see what we think may work. This of course is not a promise that he WILL change, but rather that we are acknowledging the concern, and will take this feedback into consideration.

Thanks everyone!

[Zeus]

Thanks for the feedback guys. Not sure what changes we are going to make just yet if any, however if we do there will not be a swapping of primary passive bonuses. Removing DR to add Crit for example is subjective, and changes the entire feel of the pet. Very dangerous, so any changes that are made will be buffing/adding potentially of stats but not a removal or change in the primary purpose of the pet.

He's being used by a lot of warriors, as he should be because of the 4% DR tanking in Elites, but he probably does need some attention for the other classes. We will take a look, discuss, and see what we think may work. This of course is not a promise that he WILL change, but rather that we are acknowledging the concern, and will take this feedback into consideration.

Thanks everyone!

Thank you for looking into it, Carapace, we really appreciate it!

[keikali]

Thanks for the feedback guys. Not sure what changes we are going to make just yet if any, however if we do there will not be a swapping of primary passive bonuses. Removing DR to add Crit for example is subjective, and changes the entire feel of the pet. Very dangerous, so any changes that are made will be buffing/adding potentially of stats but not a removal or change in the primary purpose of the pet.

He's being used by a lot of warriors, as he should be because of the 4% DR tanking in Elites, but he probably does need some attention for the other classes. We will take a look, discuss, and see what we think may work. This of course is not a promise that he WILL change, but rather that we are acknowledging the concern, and will take this feedback into consideration.

Thanks everyone!

Legit!

[Xpolosion]

Please just figure something out so all classes have use for him and all the singe haters. Shut up. This is like making a new arcane weapon but the old one still better..

[Pentavia]

Adding a crit buff would at least make Singe very usable to other classes apart from warriors.

[hakoom7]

Thanks for the feedback guys. Not sure what changes we are going to make just yet if any, however if we do there will not be a swapping of primary passive bonuses. Removing DR to Crit for example is subjective, and changes the entire feel of the pet. Very dangerous, so any changes that are made will be buffing/adding potentially of stats but not a removal or change in the primary purpose of the pet.

He's being used by a lot of warriors, as he should be because of the 4% DR tanking in Elites, but he probably does need some attention for the other classes. We will take a look, discuss, and see what we think may work. This of course is not a promise that he WILL change, but rather that we are acknowledging the concern, and will take this feedback into consideration.

Thanks everyone!

I can assure you that hes completely useless for rouges, I mean of course hes status means super damage but after many many tests I just realised valking or mallison are much more effective than singe for rouges.

Its simple just either make his stun as annoying as samael stun in pvp or his crit as op as samael. Seriously no wonder samael price been high for long time, high crit, high status, amazing stun and, of course amazing look

Not asking for much, just one thing and I pray its crit
We would APPRECIATE it

[fixsinge]

fix singe please.

[will0]

We need Critical buff on Singe for Mage class to use please consider changing it 4% DR tanking in Elite is not useful for other class apart Warrior.

[fixsinge]

fix pls

[epicrrr]

+ prim stat will be the best acceptable change to it, adding crit or mana regen will make this a god pet for low level.