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    Ever since I switched to using custom from glyph after i was told its better, too many glyph users think its okay to rush or team me since im not glyph so its harder to kill them. I'm sick of it. Going to try 61 and I want to know if this would be a good build. Also is it better to use sang or demo/obe. Here's the build:
    6 evade
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    6 break
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    Or is there a better build?

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    Not a bad build. But the set you use is different for everyone. Custom vs glyph is no good. Sang is good for damage, And a little dodge. And Glyph/Demonic is good for kitting. Personally i would use demonic xbow set over sang any day.

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    Custom vs glyph really isn't actually "no good" it's just all these glyph bears. Against most mages and other birds it nukes nicely, killing them with using only 2-3 skills. Bears can auto me to death though since I have hardly any dodge and only 84 armor. If it weren't for so many people who use bears now I'd stay, I've always done 56.

    Would obe XBOW set be good too? I can't afford demo right now but I want to get it. I know I see demo birds beat sang birds from the range they have but once the sang bird gets close enough the demo bird dies quickly. I can kite better than I can nuke. Would that mean I should use an XBOW?

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    If you kite better than nuke as a bird than yes get obe. But be noted int mages are op at 61! bears you just have to make sure your root/blind lands then its GG.

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    Alright so then ill use obe and eventually get demo. Thanks for the info!

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    Quote Originally Posted by programmed View Post
    Alright so then ill use obe and eventually get demo. Thanks for the info!
    anytime if you have any more questions lemme know.

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    Alright I'll be sure to do that if I end up needing more help!

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    Decent build, as Sniper has said. Just a thought I would prefer Sang for bear and mage as it has blind proc and nukes better. I do agree demo is better vs birds tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Extreme View Post
    Decent build, as Sniper has said. Just a thought I would prefer Sang for bear and mage as it has blind proc and nukes better. I do agree demo is better vs birds tho.
    Well I have obe and going to upgrade to demo when I can then ill get sang after I have demo.
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    Would it be better to use less points in shatter and more in restore? I see some demo birds with high restore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by programmed View Post
    Would it be better to use less points in shatter and more in restore? I see some demo birds with high restore.
    Demo birds use high restore instead of high shatter because the point of using demo is for the range and you use it to kite better than sang, so they put 1 or no points into shatter and the extra points in restore. Sang birds use a high shatter for the nuke.
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    6 restore > 6 shat

    That's what I heard from igorpally

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laar View Post
    Demo birds use high restore instead of high shatter because the point of using demo is for the range and you use it to kite better than sang, so they put 1 or no points into shatter and the extra points in restore. Sang birds use a high shatter for the nuke.
    Ok so 1 shatter and 6 restore instead of 6 shatter and 1 restore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by programmed:1602127
    Quote Originally Posted by Laar View Post
    Demo birds use high restore instead of high shatter because the point of using demo is for the range and you use it to kite better than sang, so they put 1 or no points into shatter and the extra points in restore. Sang birds use a high shatter for the nuke.
    Ok so 1 shatter and 6 restore instead of 6 shatter and 1 restore.
    Based on what I've seen, shatter is only used for those time a mage freezes you enough to get close for lightning, or when you get pulled by a bear too much, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowstar View Post
    Based on what I've seen, shatter is only used for those time a mage freezes you enough to get close for lightning, or when you get pulled by a bear too much, etc.
    When I fight sang birds, they close in for the nuke. Demo birds go for the repulse, and then kinda poke you around and kite the hell outta ya.
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    Quote Originally Posted by programmed View Post
    Custom vs glyph really isn't actually "no good" it's just all these glyph bears. Against most mages and other birds it nukes nicely, killing them with using only 2-3 skills. Bears can auto me to death though since I have hardly any dodge and only 84 armor. If it weren't for so many people who use bears now I'd stay, I've always done 56.

    Would obe XBOW set be good too? I can't afford demo right now but I want to get it. I know I see demo birds beat sang birds from the range they have but once the sang bird gets close enough the demo bird dies quickly. I can kite better than I can nuke. Would that mean I should use an XBOW?
    so you are happy to kill people with just 2-3 skills? And then you complain about bears being OP... interesting
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotYoCookiez View Post
    so you are happy to kill people with just 2-3 skills? And then you complain about bears being OP... interesting
    Did I say I was happy with it? No. And its not op when if any of my skills are dodged I die from lack of dodge and armor. Crit is the only thing better about custom. And yes bears are op when a few hits from auto kills me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowstar View Post
    Based on what I've seen, shatter is only used for those time a mage freezes you enough to get close for lightning, or when you get pulled by a bear too much, etc.
    Lol, shadow..

    @Beary Sorry didn't see 6 Shatter, me personally I've never used more than 1 shatter in any levels, so 1 is efficient for shatter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Extreme View Post
    Lol, shadow..

    @Beary Sorry didn't see 6 Shatter, me personally I've never used more than 1 shatter in any levels, so 1 is efficient for shatter.
    Personally i think that shat l6 is nubish i tried that before not much effect so i changed to max heal its better vsing demo or orlok bear but... its up to you to choose bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardcorexd View Post
    Personally i think that shat l6 is nubish i tried that before not much effect so i changed to max heal its better vsing demo or orlok bear but... its up to you to choose bro
    I said 1 shatter was better..
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