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    Default Major damage bug on warrior gear

    When i equip Magma claymore assault instead of Maul i loose 160 damage but my skills damage go up. It is not only happens in display, I also tested it in fight and the result is that with claymore I hit distinctively harder.
    I always thought skill's damage is a derivative of damage stat, isnt it?
    Here are screens:
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    with Claymore:
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    p.s. it happens not only with Claymore, it hapens with all lvl 40+ warrior weapons.
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    After farther investigation, it seems that the lvl of the gear effects the damage of the skills.
    Which raises even more questions as to the efficiency of all current mythics.
    I haven't tested other types of gear yet (armors, helms, amulets and ect.), but this may change the entire equipment considered OP. For all Classes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mitno View Post
    After farther investigation, it seems that the lvl of the gear effects the damage of the skills.
    Which raises even more questions as to the efficiency of all current mythics.
    I haven't tested other types of gear yet (armors, helms, amulets and ect.), but this may change the entire equipment considered OP. For all Classes!
    I found this out when I originally got a claymore. I have now ran and PvP with both sets of gear And by far the maul isbest weapon in the game . For some reason the Claymore does stack up when it comes to skills but that is the only place it provides more damage. But again it should be adjusted by developers

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    and don't worry I have tested it with other pieces of equipment the damage Lowers considerably when not wearing mythic gear.but this weapon skill damage should be no where near that of the hall it is not okay please developers fix this immediately

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    Yeah no legend weapons should be anywhere near the the same skill dmg as an arcane let alone more than a arcane weapon....

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    The damages should be close to each other.
    A lvl 31 arcane item is the same as a lvl 41 elite legendary.

    HOWEVER, the maul's damage should be higher one, as maul weapons are supposed to be the warriors high damage/low dps weapon.


    Edit: it has already been seen that the lvl 36 mythic glaive shows higher damage in the skill screen than the maul--both weapons are lvl 41 legendaries, the maul is supposed to be the damage weapon still, with the glaive having better dps & low damage in the stat screen.
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    You are talking about level31 arcane weapon bro , and you are comparing it with legendary weapon +10 levels ,however the maul is still good only bcs of the proc which is deadly , maybe at level51 the arcane ring level41 will become as same as legendary ring .
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    Legendary should be no where near arcane?

    Err we are talking of 10 level gaps here.

    How long do you guys want to keep using that ollerus maul, till lv 100?

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    Whether or not a level 41 legendary item should be comparable to a level 31 arcane item is a separate debate which has little to do with the OP's complaint. If the damage shown on the stat screen is higher for one weapon, then the skill damage should also be higher. If it is not, then there is something wrong which needs to be fixed.

    I'm really getting tired of this happening. We need to stat page to accurately reflect what is happening with our gear. Otherwise there is really no way for anyone to judge which gear is better.

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    How was the damage output of the two weapons tested? Mathematically or by perception? Without hard numbers from clean testing there's no way to say what the actual difference is.

    We all know STS is bad at math (sorry devs, but it's true), but there's no way any level 31 weapon should be better than the top 41 item. Look at hooks. The quills last season were way way higher damage than the level 26 hooks. If anything I would say the maul damage on the stat sheet is off, not the skill damage value of the Magmatic.

    We already know the stat display sheet is inaccurate in many many ways. You can also have 2 weapons with the exact same values on their description, yet one has 20 more damage than the other. There's obviously a lot of stuff involved in calculating stats that is not on the display. I don't think this is a magmatic blade problem at all. I've used the blade, it's good, but it's not OP at all.
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    maul 1 year old now. and its op at it respective level. it looks like the magma claymore display is not showing properly ( not maul- lol)

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    Something not ok indeed. Usually - unlike here - higher damage means higher skill damage and higher dps means higher or faster auto attack.

    To the others: he is not complain about maul vs legendary or mythic weapons, re read the op again.
    Last edited by Haligali; 04-26-2014 at 03:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Energizeric View Post
    Whether or not a level 41 legendary item should be comparable to a level 31 arcane item is a separate debate which has little to do with the OP's complaint. If the damage shown on the stat screen is higher for one weapon, then the skill damage should also be higher. If it is not, then there is something wrong which needs to be fixed.

    I'm really getting tired of this happening. We need to stat page to accurately reflect what is happening with our gear. Otherwise there is really no way for anyone to judge which gear is better.
    Exactly what I meant. I could never write it better myself. Thnx!

    I have no problem with claymore, or any other weapon, being better than maul. My complaint is that if one weapon is better than the other I want to see it on its stats! The situation where one weapon shows 160 more damage on stats but in reality yields less damage is unacceptable IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serancha View Post
    How was the damage output of the two weapons tested? Mathematically or by perception? Without hard numbers from clean testing there's no way to say what the actual difference is.
    I haven't done Excel sheet with 200 test data points for each case, if that what you mean by hard numbers. That being said, I think the difference between 548 damage and 390 damage (40 percent difference) should be visible without the need of 200 data points. A very simple test shows that in this case claymoe yields more damage than maul, just as it 's description suggests on the screens i posted in my first entery

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    Oh wow wish I brought magmatic claymore now :/

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    Maybe i wasn't clear enough about what i meant. Here is a clarification:
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    I see what you mean magmatic claymore has more skill damage but it doesn't show on the stats?

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    More stat damage yet less skill damage. To me it looks like a full on bug.
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    I have noticed that all warhammers have less skill DMG than their sword counterparts; mythic glaives also have more skill DMG than the Arcane maul. Maybe for warhammers and swords/glaives, skill DMG is directly related to DPs instead of DMG.
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