Mythic gun or arcane staff

[Jig]

The gun has more Damage+better procs! like a lot of pros know! dps is not what you go of, also it's a short ranged weapon, spew hat all staffs are. The gun has super range Dmg and great procs, the armour buff proc gives like what 180 armour buff? Equals too the staffs health it gives.

I rather gun, and as everyone knows, Staffis for Pve, this myth gun is for sure for Pvp, it is just very very close between these two weapons.

My preference would be the gun though.

I still love kershal if you guys still have keep it, it's just as dam op as the Myth gun.

[hob]

It just never really procs much.. So why would you choose a weap with less stats over a rare proc?

I'll have to use it more though. Maybe I will change my mind.

LOL, do u think kershal always proc more than gun???? but trust me GUN is the best wep for mage in PVP, but if PVE i dont know

[hob]

Real men use gun, not a jumbo lollipop.

lol

[hob]

Gun is superior and anyone who says otherwise hasn't compared the skill damage between the two. My guess is there is a lot of merchs who have a vested interest in seeing arcane staff go up. Don't be fooled by these people.

THIS!!!

[SacredKnight]

Staff, because I could sell it for more then go buy the gun :3

[Instanthumor]

Staff, because I could sell it for more then go buy the gun :3

For USE, not for profit. As many others said, gun is better overall.

[Bluesparky]

Gun is better in PVP and for PVE Staff is better i guess.

[AL_Newbie]

The gun is good overall, it really shines in Elites so that's the main purpose I use it.

[Instanthumor]

Gun is better in PVP and for PVE Staff is better i guess.

That's very broad.

[drgrimmy]

Gun is better in PVP and for PVE Staff is better i guess.

I am not too sure about this. Falmear makes a very good point about the skill damage of these weapons.

Gun is superior and anyone who says otherwise hasn't compared the skill damage between the two. My guess is there is a lot of merchs who have a vested interest in seeing arcane staff go up. Don't be fooled by these people.

Although the damage is about equivalent, the skill damage for lightening is about 100 more with the gun​. I do not think that the extra DPS you will be getting from the staff or hitting extra mobs with the regular attack can make up for this difference in skill damage. It would be great if someone with both weapons could post the skill damage for lightning with each weapon (keeping all other equipment, pet, build the same, etc) and times for running an elite run solo with each weapon.

Here is what I mean by a screenshot of the skill damage (with the gun BTW):

[Robhawk]

Funny thing is that the gun users think they own the staff users at tdm 1on1 because they have the gun now... well the gun alone doesnt make you win!

Where the gun shines is in a "vs warrior" as Eric already said. You are able to run away and deal damage which you cant with the staff. Although if you ask me a good warrior wont let you get away -> With a arcane maul or myth glaive as weapon and HoR, Jugger, VB + Axe you wont be able to run away. Its still warrior > mage.

ps: When the staff procs (+60 INT) and it procs VERY often, the skill damage difference also should be nearly equalized compared to the gun ?

[Robhawk]

You should not have a problem keeping your distance from any warrior using the gun. Remember that you have fireball stun, pet stun and the mythic gun has a root proc that kicks in quite often.

You have the fireball stun, yes! With a fireballstun you wont get away from axe throw! Pet stun only when the pet has that ability! The proc stun happens when it happens you cant control this. I had no problem killing mages with my semi-geared warrior at all. NO ONE was able to run away! When the warrior times VB and Hor right you have no chance! Just wait for the mage activating shield, when next 2 seconds are over charge VB do a axethrow pull and SS with normal attacks... the mage will heal (mages heal scks!) then you do another axe throw while the mage is running away, SS -> dead! TY!

Imho you have only 1 serious chance killing the warrior: 4 attack skills build -> fireball stun -> spam all u have -> after 2 seconds terrify/panic f.e. with slag and spam all u have. When you deal enough damage with some crits the warrior might die because he got suprised and couldnt start Jugger and or Hor while beeing stunlocked. If he is not killed after panic/terrify of pet is over the mage is dead.

Although i didnt play vs new myth gun mages with my warrior, we could test it... The difference to staff-mages should be very close and i only lost like 5% of 1on1 vs mages when lucky crits happened while my HoR was late! My warrior has no glaive or maul just a claymore...

[Instanthumor]

Robhawk, 1v1 I can put a lot of warriors to sleep. It's all about keeping distance. When they Axe throw, I fireball stun. When they do it again I pet stun. Next time I charge shield if within 7.5 sec. Root proc on gun also kicks in a lot which helps. When I was talking to you in TDM yesterday, we were talking about those arcane ring maulers. Those guys just hit too hard.

I don't wanna hijack the thread and make it a warrior killing discussion but pm in game with your war. We can test out a few tactics. I know you run a kershal but the gun is so cheap now, that you should try it out. I'll let you try mine out as well if you like. It's seriously OP.

Seriously Rob, you should invest in some skill. If the only way you can beat a warrior is to stunlock him, you need some cereal lessons.

What's your warrior's ign?? let's vs

[Jig]

Seriously Rob, you should invest in some skill. If the only way you can beat a warrior is to stunlock him, you need some cereal lessons.

What's your warrior's ign?? let's vs

i ned cereal lessons pls i still figurin how to open the packert i beginner

[Instanthumor]

Ok, let's move on. I don't think anyone is going to disagree that the gun is OP in PvP. However, have any of you speed runner mages put this to test to see the time differences for Kersh vs. gun in PVE? I no longer own staff so I can't test this.

It would be nice to see the difference with a 4 attack skill where you have less time to spam auto attack and times will be more influenced by skill damage vs. 3 attack skill (running shield and switching clock to lighting at boss) and having to spam auto attack more often.

KT4, KM3, etc, gun has a slightly faster time. That, I know for sure.

[Kershy]

staff for pve bc u can hit more than 1 mob, u have more hp and clear faster the map.

gun for pvp bc u can be a lil away from your enemies and its proc is awesome for pvp.

[Krobelus]

Which fires faster, gun or staff? Is there any attribute such as atk speed on weapons? Enlighten me.

[Jantroy]

Which fires faster, gun or staff? Is there any attribute such as atk speed on weapons? Enlighten me.

The weapon with the highest DPS has the fastest fire rate, which is gun<staff.
the DPS sums up the fire rate of the weapon, the higher it is, the faster it fires.

[Instanthumor]

But... Gun has auto aim which shuts down the kersh

[Jig]

But... Gun has auto aim which shuts down the kersh

But Kershal has AOE hitting all targets..?