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    I perf'd the rifle. Here is comparison:

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    Perf myth rif

    I use both. I like the hp on the kersh more and prefer it in mobs. For boss I like to swap out for rifle as it has a lot more range. Fact is, either weapon is a great choice for a mage right now and if you have one of them you are fine.

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    But 150 armor > 150 HP. I'm reality, 150 HP doesn't make a huge difference... It's like 3% of your HP which isn't much. On the other hand, the 150 armor from gun is what prevents rogues (mobs as well) from one shotting you which turns the tide of any situation.

    And if you're worrying about crit, you cannot tell the difference between 30% crit and 34% crit, but you CAN tell the dmg difference between the two weapons that the gun is far superior in terms of skill damage (every hit adds up).
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    gun wins imo. root and armor already have me wanting the gun not the staff

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    Gun is way more better and all around weapon. Sorcerer is a ranged class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haligali View Post
    Real men use gun, not a jumbo lollipop.
    Best reply of the day. LOLOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by drgrimmy View Post
    I would like a screenshot comparison from someone who has both, but when i compared the skill damage of the gun to the staff with a friend, although the damage of these two weapons is about the same, the lightening skill damage is about 100 higher with the gun. This seems to be analogous to the arcane maul and the mythic glaive for the warrior, where although the maul has more damage, the glaive has higher skill damage. I am not quite too sure how this works, but perhaps the weapon type or the higher level of the weapon is leading to a higher skill damage. Either way, if this is true it would make me choose the gun.
    So true, because item level is factored into skill damage to make sure that these weapons only last X number of seasons etc, lighting hits way harder with gun. Hopefully someone can do a test, I only have gun now on my mage, so I'm useless. Someone with both show screenshots of skill damage for lightning comparison. Very curious to see. Screenshots of just base damage stat does not show this difference. Lets let the cat out of the bag now. Sooner or later everyone will figure this out.

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    In case anyone missed the post on this skill damage discovery here is re-up: Hope that is ok to put here:

    http://www.spacetimestudios.com/show...ighlight=mitno

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    The damage-advantage of the gun gets equalized when the staff procs its +60INT! Then you still have the 5% more crit and HP and also most of the time you dont do 1on1 f.e. at tdm, normally its at least 2vs2 or more and when you use normal attacks between your skills the staff is superior! Just imagine the staff`s proc gets like Maul`s proc? Then everybody trades his/her gun for the old staff!
    I wrote a PM to Remiem regarding staff changes and she replied that there will be a mod/dev statement on that topic, so the chances of an staff improvement is not to bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinytoy View Post
    They said the statement will be about buffing the staff?
    If so, this may increase the worth of the staff, so whoever wants it get it now.

    But careful don't take this as a for sure thing O.o
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    I did a review about the gun at http://www.spacetimestudios.com/show...58#post1749758, if anyone's interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robhawk View Post
    The damage-advantage of the gun gets equalized when the staff procs its +60INT!
    Skill damage of the mythic gun is still greater even when kershal procs +60 INT. So this statement is false. They are closer but not equalized. So you can think of mythic gun as coming with more then +60 INT in its skill damage without waiting around for a proc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by falmear View Post
    Skill damage of the mythic gun is still greater even when kershal procs +60 INT. So this statement is false. They are closer but not equalized. So you can think of mythic gun as coming with more then +60 INT in its skill damage without waiting around for a proc.
    You serious? O_o
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jig View Post
    You serious? O_o
    He is correct.

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    I do not want to spoil your dreams, but i strongly doubt they prepare for a surprise at the arcane staffs one year anniversary. There are numerous threads about it - one made by Zeus too - yet we still havent got a solution. Let it go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Instanthumor View Post
    He is correct.
    Wow. I wouldn't of thought of it like that, this really is making the myth gun poop all over Kershal...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jig View Post
    Wow. I wouldn't of thought of it like that, this really is making the myth gun poop all over Kershal...
    Nah it's not. Lolli is still legit mage weap and superior in wiping out the trash in elite maps. The rifle is nice for bosses and really it shines in PvP best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candylicks View Post
    Nah it's not. Lolli is still legit mage weap and superior in wiping out the trash in elite maps. The rifle is nice for bosses and really it shines in PvP best.
    Yeahh that's why I want it, so good in pvp still, but it annihilates in Pve! It's still worth it. + it's sexy looks xD
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    Kershal is only good on any easy map like tombs. Everything else use mythic gun. Also next season (if there is such a thing) the next mythic weapon will be a staff. So mythic gun will still be the best gun (not the best mythic). Arcane staff will be 3rd best. This is the same fate as arcane hooks. So if you want to be ahead of the game, you should think about this fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by falmear View Post
    Kershal is only good on any easy map like tombs. Everything else use mythic gun. Also next season (if there is such a thing) the next mythic weapon will be a staff. So mythic gun will still be the best gun (not the best mythic). Arcane staff will be 3rd best. This is the same fate as arcane hooks. So if you want to be ahead of the game, you should think about this fact.
    Kershal, will still be best 40 and under... Meaning it will be used for twinks
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    I sold my kershal and buy gun. Its true gun better in pvp. Sorry my enghlis.

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