Aa...
Of same pets dose not stack..
So dmg of one poll will same...
Dosent metter how much s&s u r ussing in same time...
And still with right skills u can survive in front of s&s ussers ...
Just cant kill them without another arcane pet and arcane gears..
Because the s&s users are already fully arcane geared.
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It stacksOriginally Posted by warriorromio:1742877
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Wait until the next arcane pet that has Samael's banish ability that will work in PvP too! I'm waiting for that pet.
I'll banish your whole team in one button press!
how? ._.
Wait until the next arcane pet that has Samael's banish ability that will work in PvP too! I'm waiting for that pet.
I'll banish your whole team in one button press!
Well see, when a pet has the banishment ability that works in PvP using its AA will activated said ability and kill your team if they are in range
But the banishment cant kill the enemy team ._.Well see, when a pet has the banishment ability that works in PvP using its AA will activated said ability and kill your team if they are in range
So how banishment can kill enemy team? LOL!
1. It is only OP is the pools stack. If you stand in just one pool, your HoT keeps up with the DoT damage.
2. It is only OP in areas with minimal space because pools get the chance to stack.
3. It only does 6k damage in 10 seconds if every single pool sticks which the chances of that happening are very very slight. If it does happen, simply don't go into the pool. Common sense, right? With the pools stacked, there's much more area for you to maneuver around it.
4. It is only better than Samael in CTF. In all other categories including TDM and Elites, Samael is much better. Does that mean that Samael should be nerfed too? Sorry, but there should be versatility. One pet should not dominate every area of the game. SnS is not that pet - it only shines in certain areas of the game which is why it has the sticker price that it does.
People should accept that Samael cannot be the best pet in every single category. It is still a very formidable pet and can easily compete, if not best SnS. So, please stop exaggerating the level of OPness the pet has and get it nerfed. It's powerful in ONE area of the game, ONE! In every other aspect, it is weaker when compared to Samael.
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I don't think the patches should overlap in damage/healing, but otherwise the pet seems okay.
That's really the only strength of the pet. If you nerf that, Samael is better in every category as multiple Samael's AA will keep you on your feet.
Honestly, it is a COUNTER to Samael's AA. Yes, when standing still and standing in stacked pools, players will be wiped quickly but when you take into account the healing AA of Sam along with heals from other classes, it really is just an AA that negates that rapid healing through the use of damage pools.
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How many patches spawn on activating?
8, I think? 4 healing, 4 damage. Or maybe it's 3 of each? Either way, it's rare to have more than 2 stack which is why this is really just an exaggeration by players.
It is potent in CTF? Yes. However, overall, it is not an OP pet. It is just stronger than Samael in a clash scenario which players cannot seem to accept.
Also, players that are trying to get it nerfed fail to mention that the more the pools stack, the more maneuverability they get. So, as I said before...joystick exists for a reason. Our characters are not NPCs. Simply move around the pool, right?
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On a serious note tho.
From what I hear about the pet, it does not have a stun, so it will never force you to remain inside of the patches. Why don't you just.. Like move?
Yep, no stun. However, people like charging through the pools. There's always the option to move unless you're stunned.
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Good pet,,,if not over power,,better use samael,,cheap,,than wasting money for crap,,, haha
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We are speaking hypothetically about a new pet whom has a similar banishment ability which works in PvP.
How can 6k damage in 10 seconds not be op? This is ridicolous... An avarage mage has around 3,5k health without shield and LESS than 6k health with activated shield.
So 1on1 vs a Shady rogue = gg after 4 seconds and you only last 4 seconds because your shield protects you 2 seconds, lmao! HF! Moving around the circles is no option because the mage is to slow, we dont have a shadow piercer to beam somewhere else and we cant waste a skill slot for gale force because it just scks!
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It won't do 6k damage if it doesn't stack which it won't in a 1v1 area. One pool will only take out about 2k health & that's if you stand in it from start to finish.
You have a joystick, use it to avoid the pools. They are immovable, you are movable. I don't see the big deal, sorry.
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Without checking, I think its 3 of each. The damage pools everyone just gracefully walks away. The life pools are excellent.8, I think? 4 healing, 4 damage. Or maybe it's 3 of each? Either way, it's rare to have more than 2 stack which is why this is really just an exaggeration by players.
It is potent in CTF? Yes. However, overall, it is not an OP pet. It is just stronger than Samael in a clash scenario which players cannot seem to accept.
Also, players that are trying to get it nerfed fail to mention that the more the pools stack, the more maneuverability they get. So, as I said before...joystick exists for a reason. Our characters are not NPCs. Simply move around the pool, right?
I agree with Zeus on this but your forgetting one thing.Shady and surge is only available to people that won it or payed over 100mil.
The reason why shady is so op is because there's only 44 of them in the game. If there were only 44 samaels in the game it would be a problem right?
Samael shouldn't be the best pet forever but at least replace it with something that's available to everyone so we can all win in pvp.
If your guild has no shady pets it's almost impossible to win a clash against 5 of them. Again making the rich players op compared to average players.
Now I see why this pet is selling for so much. It makes the rich immortal. If I join pvp and see more than 3 shadys enemy I'm leaving.
Unfortunately it's too late to nerf because people have already hatched them but maybe add them to locked crates of elondria when the ursoth event returns.
Also buff the other arcane pets next season because dovabear is crazy .
Hammerjaw should be able to compete with the other pets.
I hope sts reads this thread and makes some changes
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