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    Default An Idea about Nekro the Undead Whelp

    Reason behind the Idea:
    When it was announced, that a new Arcane Pet, Nekro the Un-dead whelp is coming soon, I was a bit pleased when I saw it can be obtained by doing a quest, That is PvE(Elite) based. By reading the whole thread, I got to know, it'll be Singe egg only that'll be needed to complete this quest to obtain an awesome pet. Everyone thought, Yes , its an awesome move by STS, as we con convert a 12mil pet into a 50-60mil pet or even more.
    Then, rich guys( You may call) started buying singe eggs and started offering to high for Singe, and it was ridiculous. As we can see SInge egg worths over 50m now. I'm just thinking, those players who are offering more , don't want the normal players to receive an awesome pet? Yes, many troll by saying "Too broke for Shady and Surge"? And now, when there was a chance for us to get an awesome pet, they broke all the hopes as 50-60million gold for those guys means nothing, right? Nothing as they're ready to give a 100million for a pet. And it's impossible for us to get that much gold with super low chances of obtaining an egg from locked. So taking this in consideration, I request you to make some changed to the crafting quest for obtaining Nekro egg!

    Some Ideas on How to Obtain/Receive Nekro Egg:
    1) By taking Quest from Paracelsus the Alchemist, we'll be sent on a mission/quest to collect special Arcane Parchments from specific Elite bosses around Arlor. These parchments can be combined to make a very rare crafting recipe. These parchments can dropp ed from all Dragon bosses available in Tindrin( Drake, Alagran, Rendtail). Collect X(say) amount of parchments and return to Paracelsus the Alchemist to complete the first quest. After completing the quest, you'll receive a Recipe that can only be stashed, nor be traded or liquidated in inventory( In order to keep it safe, it must not be liquidate'able).
    2) After completing the first quest from Paracelsus the Alchemist, you'll be given a new quest to Obtain undead Ectoplasm. This undead Ecto plasm can be dropped from all tindrin bosses and a very very rare drop from normal tindrin bosses. I'm not sure about quantity, but suppose 5 undead ectoplasm are needed to complete the second quest. After looting 5 Undead ectoplasm, you'll receive a last quest in order to obtain this awesome pet.
    3) By Getting 5(say) Undead Ectoplasm, you'll comeplete the 2nd quest and Paracelsus the Alchemist will give you a last quest, this would be one of the hardest one.
    Ok i've thought a lot for this quest and here is my Idea:
    In the last quest, Paracelsus the Alchemist will ask you to get a Singe egg in order to start crafting! The ones who already have Singe egg, can deposit those eggs to Paracelsus the Alchemist and can start their crafting session.
    For those who don't have, There will be a quest to Find 100 Undead Nekro's bones that can be dropped from elite bosses in Tindrin! The drop rates will be 50% off the drops rates of Teeths. These bones should have a low drop rate and after collecting 100 bones, your quest will be turned in and you need to report back to Paracelsus the Alchemist!
    Now, there should be a benefit for those who already have singe. These 100 bones, can be used to make their singe back into an egg! This egg should be non-stashable/non-tradeable and after evolving singe back to the egg, the 3rd and last quest is finished and your crafting process starts!

    For those people who don't have singe egg:
    Those 100 bones can be a new recipe to obtain a singe egg! Suppose If I don't have singe egg, I'll use 100 bones to buy a recipe to craft singe egg! This recipe will take 150 drakin teeths to start the crafting process. With 150 teeths and 100 Bones you can receive a new non-tradeable/non-stashable singe egg!
    After that, you can return to Paracelsus the Alchemist and complete your crafting process
    This can be the best way to get Nekro egg.
    If you have any ideas regarding it please post.
    Thanks

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    I like your idea ish, but it won't be implemented because sts would rather want players to open tons of locks to get singe and giving sts more and more money, your 100 bones idea would give sts less profit.
    Anyhow, I can assume people are gonna post on this thread saying how this quest isn't required, there's 100 pets you can choose from other than nekro, yadah yadah blah blah etc.

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    Just weird when heard the craftable pet -__-

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    +1. So far there have been some good ideas on the forums to make this easier to swallow. The current way STS wants to introduce this new crafting is only for platters. The problem is even the rich are getting fed up with the need to buy more plat every other day to get the new, latest and greatest item. I can only imagine the pain of looting HJ when you're aiming for a Singe. So now platters and free players are mad. Last time I checked that's the entire player base lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Int View Post
    I like your idea ish, but it won't be implemented because sts would rather want players to open tons of locks to get singe and giving sts more and more money, your 100 bones idea would give sts less profit.
    Anyhow, I can assume people are gonna post on this thread saying how this quest isn't required, there's 100 pets you can choose from other than nekro, yadah yadah blah blah etc.
    If they don't care about customers, those customers who helped this game become popular by promoting and stuff, they'll soon realize their mistake. I'm pretty sure, last days of arcane legends are coming if they dont listen to us.

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    I LOVE this idea!!!!

    Not only does this benefit non-platters, and encourages elite runs, which as we all know, is a black hole for potions (and thus gold), as well as the throngs that buy revives, reroll, combo, etc, but there is also a benefit for the plat users that either open lockeds for Singe, buy Singe, or already have Singe eggs.

    Regardless of what people say, Teeth are hard to come by, and if these Bones only drop in elite, then even with a 50% drop rate compared to Teeth, it will be quite difficult to stockpile a hundred Bones, yet the reward is worthwhile enough to keep us running elites.

    I strongly recommend a solution like this - if nothing else, it removes the label of Pay To Stay Competitive that AL has truly developed these past two seasons.

    Please, please, please implement something like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodSyntax View Post
    I LOVE this idea!!!!

    Not only does this benefit non-platters, and encourages elite runs, which as we all know, is a black hole for potions (and thus gold), as well as the throngs that buy revives, reroll, combo, etc, but there is also a benefit for the plat users that either open lockeds for Singe, buy Singe, or already have Singe eggs.

    Regardless of what people say, Teeth are hard to come by, and if these Bones only drop in elite, then even with a 50% drop rate compared to Teeth, it will be quite difficult to stockpile a hundred Bones, yet the reward is worthwhile enough to keep us running elites.

    I strongly recommend a solution like this - if nothing else, it removes the label of Pay To Stay Competitive that AL has truly developed these past two seasons.

    Please, please, please implement something like this.
    The only thing that makes this quest impossible for us is the price of singe atm. 50m+ for a pet, seriously?

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    Personally, I think that the only way to attain this should be through elites exclusively. Perhaps STS could choose one of the elite eggs as an ingredient, along with other drops throughout Elite Arlor (i.e., Entombed Hammers, Architect items, Noble items, BloodHammer items, Skewers/Firesquids, etc.). If the requirements were all elite drops that force you to either buy up a bunch of gear in auction (thus driving up prices for the farmers), or farm them yourself, then at least it would really encourage more elite runs and make farming for something other than Locked in KM3/Brackenridge profitable again.

    To be honest, I don't understand the lack of attention on elites. If anything, I would think that elites provide a more consistent gold sink, and still provide solid revenue for STS via elixirs and revives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodSyntax View Post
    Personally, I think that the only way to attain this should be through elites exclusively. Perhaps STS could choose one of the elite eggs as an ingredient, along with other drops throughout Elite Arlor (i.e., Entombed Hammers, Architect items, Noble items, BloodHammer items, Skewers/Firesquids, etc.). If the requirements were all elite drops that force you to either buy up a bunch of gear in auction (thus driving up prices for the farmers), or farm them yourself, then at least it would really encourage more elite runs and make farming for something other than Locked in KM3/Brackenridge profitable again.

    To be honest, I don't understand the lack of attention on elites. If anything, I would think that elites provide a more consistent gold sink, and still provide solid revenue for STS via elixirs and revives.
    Yes potions is a good way for slow gold sink too. I hope they make change to crafting process as told earlier by remiem in chat. Thanks kali for a +ve feed back.

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    Just announced....Singe no longer a crafting requirement for Nekro.

    There will be another Arcane item released (probably in crates) that will be used.

    I don't see how this is a superior solution....

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodSyntax View Post
    Just announced....Singe no longer a crafting requirement for Nekro.

    There will be another Arcane item released (probably in crates) that will be used.

    I don't see how this is a superior solution....
    It'll be superior if that arcane item isn't in crates. If it is.... Open the flood gates.

    Those who say it cannot be done should not stop those who are doing it.


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    I put out an idea in chat on a good crafting strategy that can rekindle interest in elites and make drops valuable once again.

    For each season, introduce a new craftable pet (Legendary at least, Mythic would be preferred) that can only be obtained through farming/purchasing elite items for each season.

    I.E:

    Magma Weapon + Magma Helm + Magma Armor + Crafting Component (Teeth/Essences/etc.) = Tindirin Pet
    Architect Weapon + Architect Helm + Architect Armor = Shuyal Pet
    Entombed Hammer/Mountain Teeth/Nordr Jewel + Noble Helm + Noble Armor = Nordr Pet
    Firesquid/Skewer/Flameberge/Abyssal/Depraved + BH Tricorn + BH Doublet = Kraken Pet

    Because elite items are scattered across all of the elite maps, this would encourage farming all elite maps, and really increase the value of elite gear. This gives mainstream farmers a reasonable revenue stream if they aren't interested in crafting, provides new eggs to buy/hatch/merch/hoard, and really sparks renewed interest in elites in general.

    We can leave the Arcane stuff in Lockeds if STS is insistent on it, but at least something worth running for instead of the same two Tindirin maps all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodSyntax View Post
    I put out an idea in chat on a good crafting strategy that can rekindle interest in elites and make drops valuable once again.

    For each season, introduce a new craftable pet (Legendary at least, Mythic would be preferred) that can only be obtained through farming/purchasing elite items for each season.

    I.E:

    Magma Weapon + Magma Helm + Magma Armor + Crafting Component (Teeth/Essences/etc.) = Tindirin Pet
    Architect Weapon + Architect Helm + Architect Armor = Shuyal Pet
    Entombed Hammer + Noble Helm + Noble Armor = Nordr Pet
    Firesquid/Skewer + BH Tricorn + BH Doublet = Kraken Pet

    Because elite items are scattered across all of the elite maps, this would encourage farming all elite maps, and really increase the value of elite gear. This gives mainstream farmers a reasonable revenue stream if they aren't interested in crafting, provides new eggs to buy/hatch/merch/hoard, and really sparks renewed interest in elites in general.

    We can leave the Arcane stuff in Lockeds if STS is insistent on it, but at least something worth running for instead of the same two Tindirin maps all the time.
    Excellent idea.

    Instead of making one of the components needed to drop from locked chests only, what if we make up for that revenue with a new platinum purchasable, tradable elixir that boosts the component drop rate by say, 25%?

    EDIT:
    In addition, the craftable mythic/arcane pets should require a plethora of the elite map drops (eg. 10x Magma Helmets, 5x Magma Armors etc.) to really give these items their lost value from being, for another season, inferior to upgraded mythics set.
    Last edited by Madnex; 07-25-2014 at 01:01 PM. Reason: Read the edited part!

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    Considering how many revives/elixirs and pots I've burned, with more people farming = larger gold sink + more plat revenue

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodSyntax View Post
    I put out an idea in chat on a good crafting strategy that can rekindle interest in elites and make drops valuable once again.

    For each season, introduce a new craftable pet (Legendary at least, Mythic would be preferred) that can only be obtained through farming/purchasing elite items for each season.

    I.E:

    Magma Weapon + Magma Helm + Magma Armor + Crafting Component (Teeth/Essences/etc.) = Tindirin Pet
    Architect Weapon + Architect Helm + Architect Armor = Shuyal Pet
    Entombed Hammer/Mountain Teeth/Nordr Jewel + Noble Helm + Noble Armor = Nordr Pet
    Firesquid/Skewer/Flameberge/Abyssal/Depraved + BH Tricorn + BH Doublet = Kraken Pet

    Because elite items are scattered across all of the elite maps, this would encourage farming all elite maps, and really increase the value of elite gear. This gives mainstream farmers a reasonable revenue stream if they aren't interested in crafting, provides new eggs to buy/hatch/merch/hoard, and really sparks renewed interest in elites in general.

    We can leave the Arcane stuff in Lockeds if STS is insistent on it, but at least something worth running for instead of the same two Tindirin maps all the time.
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    Great idea kali,
    I would like to see devs feedback regarding it.

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    Many has been said and so I will be short:

    If STS needs us (understandably) to buy plats, let us spend plats for luck lixers and let us farm stuff for crafting this fabulous pet.

    It does not matter so much what this "stuff" will be, but let it be a long term task!!! It's pretty boring to see that most of the end-gamers finish the quest in the first day.

    On top of that, let it be also AP-accountable (5 worlds = 5 APs = 5 pets???), because now the entire LB is only about flags and pve kills.

    Thank you for listening

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodSyntax View Post
    Just announced....Singe no longer a crafting requirement for Nekro.

    There will be another Arcane item released (probably in crates) that will be used.

    I don't see how this is a superior solution....
    If it's so, STS missed another opportunity to make the game interesting for elite farmers. Why, when we burn tons of plats for lixers and revivals? I don't know... I only know that the plat I bought during sale will be enough for the next 3 months, if the elite does not get interesting stuff to farm. And I believe I am not the only one.

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    awesome idea sounds like you have to do a lot of job but it defenitely gives you a good motivation to get the pet thumbs up I hope it will be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingMartin View Post
    If it's so, STS missed another opportunity to make the game interesting for elite farmers. Why, when we burn tons of plats for lixers and revivals? I don't know... I only know that the plat I bought during sale will be enough for the next 3 months, if the elite does not get interesting stuff to farm. And I believe I am not the only one.
    Tbh I've seen lot of people using combos revivals even 5 play revivals.
    Sts wants that people buy more and more plats right? Ok then, when people hear stories like bran, Opened 600elocks and didn't even got a single myth. Do you think this will increase plat purchases or decrease? Ofc decrease. There should be better drops or arcane pets could be bought using plats in stable like 1k plat? Or maybe 2k. This would make people buy specific amount of plats as well. Idk what sts is planning of, arena hasn't been scaled yet, no new aps in lvl 41 expansion, only new things that are introduced are these midas touch pets, midas touch arcane rings and the contest that needs 24/7 playing service with huge amount of plats and gold burn. Seriously this expansion has been the most boring since the time I'm playing this game.
    Happy customers=More profit. That's what they want to learn.
    That's it.

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    IMO the best thing to do would be to have a epic questline through elite arlor about combining abaddon and Scorch...
    And both PET would disappear after crafting.

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