Booting

[asommers]

Here's what I'm planning on implementing (this can all be server-side, and can be in a content update next week):

1) If you're the host, you're always allowed to boot.
2) If you're in a game with a valid host, only the host can boot
3) If you're in a game with no host, the boot button will initiate a 10 second vote. If at least half of the number of players that are in the game also vote to boot the player, the player will be ousted.

Thoughts?

-ALS

PS. 1.7 adds an optional minimum level requirement for the dungeon, so as the host, you can specify that an AO3 game is guaranteed that only 45-50 can join.

[Lesrider]

How is 1 & 2 different than what is currently in place?

For 3, when/how would this 10 second option be initiated?

[Firepants]

I am so for this. I am guessing that everyone has to vote together in a 10 second time frame right? Meaning hmm let's boot asommers.... Ok then everyone has to boot within 10 sec of each other right?

[asommers]

I am so for this. I am guessing that everyone has to vote together in a 10 second time frame right? Meaning hmm let's boot asommers.... Ok then everyone has to boot within 10 sec of each other right?

Yes, 10 seconds from when the first boot request was initiated.

-ALS

[DontHateAppreciate]

Yes, 10 seconds from when the first boot request was initiated.

-ALS

wait... i couldn't vote... i was lagging for more than 10 seconds

[Colborne]

Will it give a timer or a message that tells u that they are being booted? And also if the host of the game is say my bear can I still hold host position if switche to other character such as bird? Just wondering that's all. If this isn't the case is there a way to make that happen?

[Lesrider]

Well right now only the host ever has a "boot" button. So this will change when the host is gone?

[Tree Dude]

How about if the host leaves the next person who joined after him/her is then host? Seems simpler than a vote. I have played a few games with voting systems for booting players and I find most of the time people just don't vote and the player stays. Then people just start dropping.

[Lesrider]

I agree, perhaps the hosting privileges could be passed on instead? My concern with needing several people to boot, is that it distracts more people than is necessary. Unless there are other concerns you have with this? Like could it cause some other type of unfairness?

[Kujen]

Love love love the minimum level option. I think I made a post in suggestions about that once.

For the boot thing, it's something that is really needed. I just hope people don't abuse it, or spam the boot request every 10 seconds.
I guess it depends...is this vote a hidden feature or is there a big pop up on the screen? Maybe just a message in the chat box?

[superglut2]

I love u devs!!!! I cant wait!!

[Kujen]

Just wondering what happened to this? Along with a lot of others, I've been joining sewers games thru the quest menu, so there's no host. I've been seeing leeches, as low as lvl 9. I typically just leave but the group vote would have come in handy.

[Colborne]

What if a person hosts a game and invites a friend and the remaining spaces are taken up randomly and all of a sudden the host has bad connection and disconnects. The remaining spot if filled by someone else and not everybody may want to boot that person. So foodfor thought.... But maybe u could pass booting over to hosts friend and that way the host after establishing connection can rejoin his hosted game. An if no friends are present to then continue onto the ten second voting. It's just an idea but from exp I've had to leave games cause friend who hosted couldn't come back

[tonygmoney]

i think it should just be the handed down to the next person cause it will take forever to vote specially if theres lag..

[relayer]

I was just thinking the other day when a level 17 joined our caves game a vote to boot option would be nice!
Min level will also be very nice!

Also wish you could setup a game class template.. example..setup a game with 2 bears, 2 mages and a bird.

Sounds great!

[Kujen]

Along the lines of minimum level, I've also posted some ideas about private games. Right now friends and friends of friends can join them. How about some hosting options when setting up your private game, like "password required", "friends", "extended network of friends". Because often you get people joining when you don't want them to, and they don't even have to know the password.

[Dizzy]

Along the lines of minimum level, I've also posted some ideas about private games. Right now friends and friends of friends can join them. How about some hosting options when setting up your private game, like "password required", "friends", "extended network of friends". Because often you get people joining when you don't want them to, and they don't even have to know the password.

+1

I love soloing. The folks on my friends list are awesome, but sometimes I just want the map to myself, just to hit one boss and exit, or practice skills and combos, or figure out damage with a new weapon. Locked games should be invite-only.

[last350]

Dizzy, i CANT agree with you more. i've actually had to remove people from my friends list simply because they kept jumping into my soloing games, passworded or not. I would love the lockout to be implemented in full, friend or not, if it's passworded, you should need the password to join.

one guy in particular wouldn't stop hounding me, i'd get messages like "WELL...?" when i didn't open a new dungeon because he wanted to just ride along behind me, collecting the cash, potions, and drops and to make matters worse, his friends would get invited by him or join the dungeon with him because he was there.

asommers, as for the idea about the 10 second vote. it's a great idea, but it'll take up some space on the phone and would have to be placed strategically and succinctly like

BOOT at the bottom with a small yes / no box but no more text that that because if you're engaged in battle with a pile of mobs, you dont want your healer stuck reading lines of text and trying to hit a button when they should be focussed on keeping everyone alive.

also, i agree with a comment mentioned before, if someone's lagging they might only catch the last 2 or 3 seconds of the text.

here's my opinion on it.

-allow a boot vote, keep it simple
-10 seconds might be good for some but bad for others
-the groups are small but 3 votes to knock them out should win it
-if the person was invited by the leader, that should override a boot vote always. last thing i want is to invite a newbie friend to help them and have some schmo vote them out eventhough i'm the leader


and the minimum level requirements is a GREAT idea.

thanks for asking for our feedback, that's what makes this game so much fun, you guys as devs are hands on with the community.


reinstitute the droid! lol j/k but i do want black antennae and it stinks that i can't find them for sale because they're no-trade items. but that's also
what adds the fun to it. if you want it you have to earn it, just is kinda bleh because i didn't learn about it until a few days ago

[ECHUSER]

thanks for listening to us once again. i would prefer designating 1 person w the responsibility of booting after the host leaves b/c i dont think the entire team should be distracted from the game.

[CowboyJim]

Definitely a step in the right direction and is better than what we have now.....could you get it added today? j/k
Would have loved to have had this option last night......this, together with minimum level settings will help a lot. BTW 1.7 being sent to Apple anytime soon?