Is it Bug or no? Juggernaut movement impairment vs Gun Proc

[inkredible]

Im not sure if this was addressed before but i noticed it awhile back, just wasnt sure if its meant to be that way
so I am making this post for confirmation

this is why i made a post like this.. because there are so many "impairment" in game .. some works some doesnt..

in other words juggernaut's description is either misleading / unclear or its bugged.
So dev's which is it? they cannot put "movement impairment" and it works on some impairment and not on some... Jugg is really confusing. Crawly is a snare right? jugg works on it, gun proc snare? jugg doesnt work on it, cacoon? not sure what that is... jugg doesnt work on it, they need to make this description clear.
That is all the purpose of this post is. Nothing related to gun being bugged or nerfed, sorry if it were confusing to some

As stated on 4th upgrade of jugg "Removes all Movement-impairment" aka "nothing stops the juggernaut"

But in this picture, it shows a "movement impairment" icon (similar to stuns) beside the juggernaut icon. In other words juggernaut 4th upgrade failed to do its job
bug or no? im not sure if root is considered a movement impairment.. but i would assume it is.. because it is an impairment lol!
Note: Jugg was used before root effect.

[Madnex]

Yeah it's another glitch pinned on debuff mechanics flaw. Same way Juggernaut doesn't really save you if you run through ice patches in Nordr multiple times.

You get freed if you activate it after the root kicks in but it doesn't give invulnerability from it.

[inkredible]

Yeah it's another glitch pinned on debuff mechanics flaw. Same way Juggernaut doesn't really save you if you run through ice patches in Nordr multiple times.

You get freed if you activate it after the root kicks in but it doesn't give invulnerability from it.

hm ive used jugg in nordr multiple times i didnt have problem with it before
and im not too sure about using jugg during root, i think it also doesnt work, ill have to double check

[Madnex]

Difference between root and being frozen is that you can't use skills right after to escape when frozen from ice patch for example.

First time you try it, jugg, walk through patch, no problems. Second time, jugg but if you try to run through ice patch and then back again or another ice patch, you'll get frozen.

[csyui]

It is a bug.

[inkredible]

Difference between root and being frozen is that you can't use skills right after to escape when frozen from ice patch for example.

First time you try it, jugg, walk through patch, no problems. Second time, jugg but if you try to run through ice patch and then back again or another ice patch, you'll get frozen.

hmm ive never experienced that because i usually like to play around and show off the ice patch before, ill look into it

I know that skills are locked when frozen, but with roots u can still use skills

[Riptank]

is the root like the AA of crawly? so maybe could not be a bug? not sure though

[Markus Reynaldus]

can you try AA of Ironbite if it works on root proc too pls.

Ironbite's AA is effective against nordr ice patches just make sure you activate AA after getting frozen.

[Haligali]

Is jugg working on maul stun proc?

[Haligali]

is the root like the AA of crawly? so maybe could not be a bug? not sure though

No its different. When crawly root then you cant turn around, while gun root, you can.

[inkredible]

No its different. When crawly root then you cant turn around, while gun root, you can.

as said

"im not trying to nerf your gun, what im trying them to do is FIX jugg because its been bugg for so long and its annoying
not knowing where or which it work on ."

[Azepeiete]

Jugg removes effects it shpuldnt prevent them

[Madnex]

Jugg removes effects it shpuldnt prevent them

Do you even warr bro?

How does one use skills when stunned/terrified/panicked/frozen already? The description says "Nothing stops the Juggernaut." not "Frees you from roots".

[Azepeiete]

Do you even warr bro?

How does one use skills when stunned/terrified/panicked/frozen already? The description says "Nothing stops the Juggernaut." not "Frees you from roots".

By movement impairing effects I assume it means slows and roots like razor shield, cuz razor shield don't ignore samael.

[Madnex]

By movement impairing effects I assume it means slows and roots like razor shield, cuz razor shield don't ignore samael.

Well if you can't move while stunned by fireball, isn't that movement-impairing? And jugg/razor prevent stuns, why would roots be excluded?

Jugg and razor can counter panic on PvE, not sure but I can't recall samael being an issue when I used razor to 1v1 mages either.

[Azepeiete]

Well if you can move while stunned by fireball, isn't that movement-impairing? And jugg/razor prevent stuns, why would roots be excluded?

Jugg and razor can counter panic on PvE, not sure but I can't recall samael being an issue when I used razor to 1v1 mages either.

Razor only removes the effects of slow down it doesn't prevent you from being stunned.

However Sam panic can be dodged, which is where razors 20% dodge comes in handy.

Fireball still stuns you with razor if charged

[inkredible]

By movement impairing effects I assume it means slows and roots like razor shield, cuz razor shield don't ignore samael.

its not like razor, it completely eliminates stuns .. "removes impairment" fireball, panics, stuns, ice patches, maul proc, crawly = jugg works on
jugg has been bugged

[Madnex]

Incorrect. If you apply the last upgrade on razor, you're not affected by neither fireball stun nor samael's panic. Tested.

I believe there was a topic where there had been done testing to disprove panic/terrify AA's being able to be dodged. They're not dodgeable, they just miss. (looking for said topic)

[Azepeiete]

Incorrect. If you apply the last upgrade on razor, you're not affected by neither fireball stun nor samael's panic. Tested.

I believe there was a topic where there had been done testing to disprove panic/terrify AA's being able to be dodged. They're not dodgeable, they just miss. (looking for said topic)

Will do some more testing layer than to see if I did something wrong

[Azepeiete]

We tested together and you saw razor didnt work for me.