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    Default Elite Time Run is for rouge and mage

    Guys I’ve notice Elite Time run is for Rouge and Mage only.

    If you notice Elite Time run is class limited / only for rouge and mage.

    Reasons.

    1.) When people time run normally they don’t need a warrior because it slow down a party.
    2.) they can finish more quickly with 2 mage 2 rouge or 3 rouge 1 mage.
    3.) Warrior is not needed

    Questions
    1.)So do you guys think it’s fair for warriors or time run or Elite party should be change?
    2.)How will we change it?
    3.) Do you think STS should place a class limitation or class requirements in a party ? (example maximum of 2 of each class.) but still if STS place a class limit they can still party of 2 rouge and 2 mage .

    My Solution.
    1.) adding 1 more slot in the party ( It means you can run 5 person in a map)
    2.) class restriction ( 2 class per party )

    reason - if there is a class restriction meaning you can have maximum of 2 rouge -2 mage - 1 warrior.
    So warriors has a shot in time runs.

    Or

    The Party requirements should have 1 class of each ( meaning a party of 4 should need 1 rouge 1 mage 1 warrior + 1 more any class)

    Please keep it civil and constructive.

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    Keep it cool
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    +1 Warrior discrimination -.- -.- -.- T_T

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    They just need to make bosses one-shot maxed DDs with arcane rings, then demand on tanks will strongly increase))

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoloToha View Post
    They just need to make bosses one-shot maxed DDs with arcane rings, then demand on tanks will strongly increase))
    Maybe boss and mobs Boss they can easily run away. Pro rouge will just pierce and move to another location.

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    Welcome to the situation of being a class that is not good for every single thing. As a mage I can make the same complaint about flagging in CTF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice View Post
    Maybe boss and mobs Boss they can easily run away. Pro rouge will just pierce and move to another location.
    Yeah, I see no problem in that, just make small/average pulls and you will maintain 99% of aggro which means safe run (and unreal without tank).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Energizeric View Post
    Welcome to the situation of being a class that is not good for every single thing. As a mage I can make the same complaint about flagging in CTF.
    no elites... No solo... No lock farming... ARRRRGGGGH

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    Quote Originally Posted by Energizeric View Post
    Welcome to the situation of being a class that is not good for every single thing. As a mage I can make the same complaint about flagging in CTF.
    The only problem of tanks is low damage. They have neither 250% crit multiplier skill nor low-cooldown skills, that's why their damage output sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Energizeric View Post
    Welcome to the situation of being a class that is not good for every single thing. As a mage I can make the same complaint about flagging in CTF.
    Well i support this too eric. I know STS will make things balance in the future

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    ...for real? Warriors are not supposed ro run timed runs, their job is to tank.
    The Only class that is decent for everything is rogues.
    Too bad you picked a warrior if you Wanna run timed...
    And, tbh, in most USUAL (not speed run) elites, a warrior is greatly needed.
    The idea of increasing party slots is terrible, that would change the entire game, and all the Efforts of the people Who have the records will be useless, also, nobody would use a tank in their speed party anyway, even if there were 5 slots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jinathedemo View Post
    ...for real? Warriors are not supposed ro run timed runs, their job is to tank.
    The Only class that is decent for everything is rogues.
    Too bad you picked a warrior if you Wanna run timed...
    And, tbh, in most USUAL (not speed run) elites, a warrior is greatly needed.
    The idea of increasing party slots is terrible, that would change the entire game, and all the Efforts of the people Who have the records will be useless, also, nobody would use a tank in their speed party anyway, even if there were 5 slots.
    thats why its unfair.. for warrior dont you think?
    Yes a warrior job is to tank mobs on elite, but now adays you dont need warrior on elite... mobs are not hard rouge can solo elite maps alone,So warrior is useless in elite maps.

    So you think warrior is only for PVP? Rofl there is a lot of warrior who dont pvp and only PVE like maarkus. Since your implying elite time run is not for warriors i should tell maarkus to quit the game since he dont pvp. he love doing elite all the time.

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    Well it's not like you were born a warrior. If you don't like your class, you should pick another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice View Post
    My Solution.
    1.) adding 1 more slot in the party ( It means you can run 5 person in a map)
    2.) class restriction ( 2 class per party )
    People are still gunna run 2 mage 2 rogue. Nice try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Instanthumor View Post
    People are still gunna run 2 mage 2 rogue. Nice try.
    Did you read the whole thing? i would suggest to read carefully i think you dont understand.

    1.) it said add one more slot in party. yes they cant have 2 rouge 2 mage and 1 warrior, now do you want me to elaborate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice View Post
    Did you read the whole thing? i would suggest to read carefully i think you dont understand.

    1.) it said add one more slot in party. yes they cant have 2 rouge 2 mage and 1 warrior, now do you want me to elaborate?
    They will still run 2 rogues 2 mage and keep fifth slot empty so the mobs are easier.


    While at the beginning of the season it was hard to run elites without a war now nearly everyone is prepaired and fairly geared so who needs wars...
    If sts had properly followed up is ITEMIZATION system like sts promised(remember? Itemization). They could have change the gear in tindirin elite...or added a particular esence to elite boss drop that combined with the old magmatic pieces could craft a new set of enhanced magmatic gears. Then increase the difficulty of elite.


    Bam problem solved..elite difficulty is back to the start of the season, everyone wants to run with a war and most importanly everyone wants to get the new gears so elites get active once more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarchist View Post
    They will still run 2 rogues 2 mage and keep fifth slot empty so the mobs are easier.


    While at the beginning of the season it was hard to run elites without a war now nearly everybone is prepaired and geared.

    If sts had properly followed up is ITEMIZATION system like sts promised. They could have change the gear in tindirin elite...or added a particularly esence to elite boss drop that combined with the old magmatic set could craft a new set of enhanced magmatic gears.

    Then increase the difficulty of elite.


    Bam problem solved..elite difficulty is back to the start of the season, everyone cant run elite without a war and most importanly everyone want to get the new gears so elites get active once more.
    true this also can be consider a solution.

    Its kinda too late for this season but maybe in the next season sts should make it fair, increase the difficulty so that in all elite maps tank is need is a good idea.

    But the problem is tank and rouge almost have the same armor now adays. rouge has 1.6k armor full mythic with arcane ring .
    tank has 2k armor if he use a maul and 2.2 if glaive. im sure no one wana use bullwark for time run lol.

    So rouge is like tank or tank is not the same as before. elite boss in tindirin can still 1 hit a full gear tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice View Post
    Guys I’ve notice Elite Time run is for Rouge and Mage only.

    If you notice Elite Time run is class limited / only for rouge and mage.

    Reasons.

    1.) When people time run normally they don’t need a warrior because it slow down a party.
    2.) they can finish more quickly with 2 mage 2 rouge or 3 rouge 1 mage.
    3.) Warrior is not needed

    Questions
    1.)So do you guys think it’s fair for warriors or time run or Elite party should be change?
    2.)How will we change it?
    3.) Do you think STS should place a class limitation or class requirements in a party ? (example maximum of 2 of each class.) but still if STS place a class limit they can still party of 2 rouge and 2 mage .

    My Solution.
    1.) adding 1 more slot in the party ( It means you can run 5 person in a map)
    2.) class restriction ( 2 class per party )

    reason - if there is a class restriction meaning you can have maximum of 2 rouge -2 mage - 1 warrior.
    So warriors has a shot in time runs.

    Or

    The Party requirements should have 1 class of each ( meaning a party of 4 should need 1 rouge 1 mage 1 warrior + 1 more any class)

    Please keep it civil and constructive.

    Best Regards,

    Ice

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    It is highly recommended by time runners to have a rogue or mage party, rather than a tank.

    But a tank can also go with the flow with them, Like Namelessl <-- He runned with rogues and set a record in shuyal arena. There was one suggestion in here that said a new map that will make tanks be able to atleast participate. It was a Mob invasion style, Mobs coming from different areas abling the tank to cover the damagers.

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    Make a rogue. set record. transfer banner to your tank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supersyan View Post
    Make a rogue. set record. transfer banner to your tank.

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    Yeah, Some do like make lvl 15 run the hauntlet, watchers tomb etc.. Then transfer banner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supersyan View Post
    Make a rogue. set record. transfer banner to your tank.

    We duh Pizza!
    A lot of people do this but we would like to see a fairness to all class. maybe best solution is higher difficulty make sure a tank is needed in every run.

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