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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    Ah, then I see why you'd recommend it.

    Personally, I'd still go single and get a high end card, haha. Each to his own though!
    Not all of us have an extra 300$ tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysticaldream View Post
    Woaaaa, a whole 1000 gb?! $500 well spent dude!

    I rly hope the Best Buy sales rep made sure you got your rewards points!
    It depends on what you're using the 1000 GB SSD for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iceQueen69 View Post
    Not all of us have an extra 300$ tho
    You can downgrade the cooling for the CPU as you won't really need it unless overclocking the CPU. Stock fan will do just fine but you can grab a larger fan for around $20. Additionally, he can throw out the 2gb HD. I doubt he'll need it with a 500 gb SSD unless he has other plans for the computer. Alternatively, he could even drop the K version since I doubt he will be overclocking. After all, nobody really needs that much CPU power - it's an utter waste.

    On top of that, he can go 8GB RAM. I highly doubt that he will need more. I have 32gigs and I rarely run out unless I leave the same Chrome browser for a week or more.


    Money made for higher end GPU.

    Also, don't forget that the GPU configuration you gave him will only keep him up to date for a year tops. Then he would have to swap out both video cards for a single high end GPU, ultimately spending more money. It just doesn't make sense when he could've bought a high end GPU to begin with by cutting back on hardware that he could later upgrade without much devaluation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    You can downgrade the cooling for the CPU as you won't really need it unless overclocking the CPU. Stock fan will do just fine but you can grab a larger fan for around $20. Additionally, he can throw out the 2gb HD. I doubt he'll need it with a 500 gb SSD unless he has other plans for the computer. Alternatively, he could even drop the K version since I doubt he will be overclocking. After all, nobody really needs that much CPU power - it's an utter waste.

    On top of that, he can go 8GB RAM. I highly doubt that he will need more. I have 32gigs and I rarely run out unless I leave the same Chrome browser for a week or more.


    Money made for higher end GPU.

    Also, don't forget that the GPU configuration you gave him will only keep him up to date for a year tops. Then he would have to swap out both video cards for a single high end GPU, ultimately spending more money. It just doesn't make sense when he could've bought a high end GPU to begin with by cutting back on hardware that he could later upgrade without much devaluation.
    Some people want to have tons of useless ram in their pc, and useless processor power too. He could get the exact same gaming perfomance with cheap processor and sapphire card and 8gb ram. It has only effect on loading times so who cares. And he could save tons of money and get a laptop or tablet easily to use when on the road

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    You can downgrade the cooling for the CPU as you won't really need it unless overclocking the CPU. Stock fan will do just fine but you can grab a larger fan for around $20. Additionally, he can throw out the 2gb HD. I doubt he'll need it with a 500 gb SSD unless he has other plans for the computer. Alternatively, he could even drop the K version since I doubt he will be overclocking. After all, nobody really needs that much CPU power - it's an utter waste.

    On top of that, he can go 8GB RAM. I highly doubt that he will need more. I have 32gigs and I rarely run out unless I leave the same Chrome browser for a week or more.


    Money made for higher end GPU.

    Also, don't forget that the GPU configuration you gave him will only keep him up to date for a year tops. Then he would have to swap out both video cards for a single high end GPU, ultimately spending more money. It just doesn't make sense when he could've bought a high end GPU to begin with by cutting back on hardware that he could later upgrade without much devaluation.
    Quote Originally Posted by Itoopeo View Post
    Some people want to have tons of useless ram in their pc, and useless processor power too. He could get the exact same gaming perfomance with cheap processor and sapphire card and 8gb ram. It has only effect on loading times so who cares. And he could save tons of money and get a laptop or tablet easily to use when on the road
    Who said I was trying to play games maxed graphics


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    Quote Originally Posted by ign Boss View Post
    Who said I was trying to play games maxed graphics


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    Why would you need a cooler or SLI option then?
    I thought coolers were necessary, and graphics help rendering. For the games I do play the SLI will be just fine. I wanted SLI because I'm getting a good screen and may as well have good graphics


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    Quote Originally Posted by Itoopeo View Post
    Some people want to have tons of useless ram in their pc, and useless processor power too. He could get the exact same gaming perfomance with cheap processor and sapphire card and 8gb ram. It has only effect on loading times so who cares. And he could save tons of money and get a laptop or tablet easily to use when on the road
    Do you not realize whom you're saying this to?

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    I have a rig as well with a i7-4770k, 32 gigs of RAM, 1000 gb SSD and 2TB HD, Nvidia GPU

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysticaldream View Post
    Do you not realize whom you're saying this to?
    I don't use mine for gaming, it has an entirely different use which is why it's so beefed up on storage & RAM. The nVidia GPU is a GT, not a GTX.

    On top of it being a desktop, it hosts a local network.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ign Boss View Post
    I thought coolers were necessary, and graphics help rendering. For the games I do play the SLI will be just fine. I wanted SLI because I'm getting a good screen and may as well have good graphics


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    Coolers are good to have but they're not exactly needed unless you're overclocking. Since you're not, you're spending more on your cooling system than you should be.

    You mention that for the games you play, SLI will be just fine. Now, to me, this sounds like you'll be playing older games. In that case, my next question is: did you check if these games will actually accept SLI configurations? If not, it really is a waste.

    It's my personal opinion but I really felt you could've opted for the more powerful and software friendly higher end GPU. I listed the many disadvantages of SLI - it can really be more trouble than it's worth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    Coolers are good to have but they're not exactly needed unless you're overclocking. Since you're not, you're spending more on your cooling system than you should be.

    You mention that for the games you play, SLI will be just fine. Now, to me, this sounds like you'll be playing older games. In that case, my next question is: did you check if these games will actually accept SLI configurations? If not, it really is a waste.

    It's my personal opinion but I really felt you could've opted for the more powerful and software friendly higher end GPU. I listed the many disadvantages of SLI - it can really be more trouble than it's worth.
    Why do people over clock


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    I don't use mine for gaming, it has an entirely different use which is why it's so beefed up on storage & RAM. The nVidia GPU is a GT, not a GTX.

    On top of it being a desktop, it hosts a local network.
    What do you use it for?


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    I too own a computer

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    Quote Originally Posted by ign Boss View Post
    What do you use it for?


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    Local network hosting, virtual machines (especially this one), etc. So yes, I need that much storage and I need it to be fast.



    For your other question, people overclock to gain a boost in performance. However, if you're already getting a powerful processor to begin with - the need to overclock just doesn't make sense. All you're doing is upping your watts for gains that you won't really need or even see for that matter. Overclocking is useful for older CPUs - it isn't needed, especially if you're going for an i7.

    If you're not going to overclock or do not know how to, you basically just paid $100 or so more for a feature you do not even use. Also, the non K i7's are still able to be overclocked slightly so I really do not see when you would need it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    Local network hosting, virtual machines (especially this one), etc. So yes, I need that much storage and I need it to be fast.



    For your other question, people overclock to gain a boost in performance. However, if you're already getting a powerful processor to begin with - the need to overclock just doesn't make sense. All you're doing is upping your watts for gains that you won't really need or even see for that matter. Overclocking is useful for older CPUs - it isn't needed, especially if you're going for an i7.

    If you're not going to overclock or do not know how to, you basically just paid $100 or so more for a feature you do not even use. Also, the non K i7's are still able to be overclocked slightly so I really do not see when you would need it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ign Boss View Post
    Do you use vmware


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    Yes.

    I have 5 different OS's which I require: OS X, Windows, Fedora, Ubuntu, and Solaris.
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    And what do you require them for? You can get all the programs in the world for linux and windows.
    Virtual computers? Do you test new and different OS:s on your freetime for fun or what?

    Local network hosting? Why not just buy a router and attach hard drive to it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    Yes.

    I have 5 different OS's which I require: OS X, Windows, Fedora, Ubuntu, and Solaris.
    Do I need thermal paste on the CPU? I'm watching a tutorial and he's putting it on.


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