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    Hey guys! I am going to go ahead and move this to the AL Pets section. That said, let's keep this discussion friendly, okay? Thanks!
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    If SnS wasnt an exclusive pet, it would be ok to leave it as it is. But when players are actually unable to catch up, tgen those pets should not affect their gameplay.

    Exclusive things should only be there for pride and looks. It's unfair to everyone else if these exclusive items were given power.

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    SnS pools deadly. isnt it the point of pvp learning how to avoid its arcane abikity it spawns pools randomly not directly on u. yes its op but thats cause it was an event arcane egg. SnS owners n guild mates made it almost impossible to avoid when all other teamates use stun pets n skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kixkaxx View Post
    What is the point of having a pet that can deal 3000dmg/sec in pvp......don't tell me you can avoid the pool, how do you avoid it when a war walk into the dmg pool and use axe throw ???? ... Yeah he has high chance to pull another war in clash, but ... Even a war can't last 2 sec in that pool
    people paid 90-130m for sns and the ones who won the pet worked hard and spent a lot of gold and hardwork to acquire the pet.. this pet costs 3-5 sams. do u expect it really to work like sam or any other arcane pet? thats bs.
    but ofc people who doent own this pet would complain a lot. im wondering how would u guys act towards this pet if u own it. lol
    if its the pool's damage u guys r concerned in pvp, u can always leave the room and find another room.
    as what u guys r saying, this pet is exclusive and only few players own this pet so u can always avoid it when u see one in pvp coz this pet is supposed to be like this as how it was introduced in game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mommyjane View Post
    people paid 90-130m for sns and the ones who won the pet worked hard and spent a lot of gold and hardwork to acquire the pet.. this pet costs 3-5 sams. do u expect it really to work like sam or any other arcane pet? thats bs.
    but ofc people who doent own this pet would complain a lot. im wondering how would u guys act towards this pet if u own it. lol
    if its the pool's damage u guys r concerned in pvp, u can always leave the room and find another room.
    as what u guys r saying, this pet is exclusive and only few players own this pet so u can always avoid it when u see one in pvp coz this pet is supposed to be like this as how it was introduced in game.
    How about a whim also, Because its "Exclusive" buff it also.

    Nightshade also, buff it super because only 5 nightshades are in the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gensin View Post
    How about a whim also, Because its "Exclusive" buff it also.

    Nightshade also, buff it super because only 5 nightshades are in the game.
    gensin hunny, first of all, whims egg was a loot from locked crates, sns egg was a reward from an event. whims isnt as exclusive as SnS coz it was LB reward. and how much u bought whims?
    secondly, nightshade is a legendary pet, a reward from 1-week event and SnS was 3-week-long event. do u really wanna compare legendary pet to an arcane pet?
    SnS is arcane but imo, it cannot be compared to some arcane pets that u acquire from popping locked crates coz how some players got SnS cost them huge amount of gold and plats , and hardwork. same as nightshade coz its pink not red.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gensin View Post
    How about a whim also, Because its "Exclusive" buff it also.

    Nightshade also, buff it super because only 5 nightshades are in the game.
    Nightshade is actually extremely lethal and can wipe players.

    Whims was an exclusive pet that did get buffed and had glory until other arcane pets outdid it. I was a long time user of whims - it was very powerful. As seasons grow longer, we'll have a new arcane pet to complain about and SnS will be a thing of the past.

    That is why exclusive pets work. They may be the best but only for a short time until something comes to outdo it. Samael still is very powerful and useful in more situations than SnS is. So, I don't see the reason for all this fuss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mommyjane View Post
    pull the trigger pls kidding. and wait what? they paid coz they wanted to pay that much? u gotta be kidding me! it was sold that much thats why buyers has no choice. sellers were reasonable thu coz how they won the eggs wasnt a joke!
    SnS was made to be this way, so let it be and just avoid it if u can. instead of spending time on whining here in forums about the pet, why not spend ur time to think of ways to counter its AA?
    u guys always say its unfair, w/o thinking that u r being one-sided. if sts would nerf sns again then its totally unfair too to the owners. just try to consider the owners side too.

    Yes. Nobody forced you to pay 90m for the pet.
    I am not whining, i am not asking for a free pet, i am taking a long break from Al due to school so i am not talkin cause of personal interests, i am talking about game balance/pvp balance based on my experience when i clashed against a team of sns and played around with a friends own
    . You know what that is, pvp balance?

    Its also because i considered sns from its owners point of view i agree sns should op and top sam but now it is way too op.

    In theory(game mechanics) exclusive stuff should never have a huge impact on the game. The more exclusive it is the less effective it should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarchist View Post
    Yes. Nobody forced you to pay 90m for the pet.
    I am not whining, i am not asking for a free pet, i am taking a long break from Al due to school so i am not talkin cause of personal interests, i am talking about game balance/pvp balance based on my experience when i clashed against a team of sns and played around with a friends own
    . You know what that is, pvp balance?

    Its also because i considered sns from its owners point of view i agree sns should op and top sam but now it is way too op.

    In theory(game mechanics) exclusive stuff should never have a huge impact on the game. The more exclusive it is the less effective it should be.
    u are taking a long break from al yet u r here complaining about imbalances in pvp arena. why not focus on ur studies now? just saying coz school requires a lot of paper works and books to read .-.

    back to the topic, SnS isnt as OP as how the not-SnS-users describe it to be. it has flaws too, its not perfect... nothing is.
    some people are just exaggerating things since they never used sns themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mommyjane View Post
    u are taking a long break from al yet u r here complaining about imbalances in pvp arena. why not focus on ur studies now? just saying coz school requires a lot of paper works and books to read .-.

    back to the topic, SnS isnt as OP as how the not-SnS-users describe it to be. it has flaws too, its not perfect... nothing is.
    some people are just exaggerating things since they never used sns themselves.

    Thanks for your concern madam buti am dedicated enough to the game and good enough with my studies to be able to afford continuing my forum life.

    Everyone might not have the pet but can feel its effect so everyone can lay a feedback.

    As for sns op its numbers speak for themselves:
    4800 damage x pool at the low end, and 7200 damage at the high end.
    14,400 to 21,600 total damage per AA.

    1 pool kills a full geared rogue in 5 secs
    2 pools 2-3 sec
    3 pools nearly instadeath

    A rogue can barely compete witha pet. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarchist View Post
    Thanks for your concern madam buti am dedicated enough to the game and good enough with my studies to be able to afford continuing my forum life.

    Everyone might not have the pet but can feel its effect so everyone can lay a feedback.

    As for sns op its numbers speak for themselves:
    4800 damage x pool at the low end, and 7200 damage at the high end.
    14,400 to 21,600 total damage per AA.

    1 pool kills a full geared rogue in 5 secs
    2 pools 2-3 sec
    3 pools nearly instadeath

    A rogue can barely compete witha pet. Lol
    1-3 pools cant kill a full geared rogue in few secs secs coz a rogue always has a health pack skill in pvp. im a full geared rogue and tested it when my friend from opposite team used her sns skill, its didnt kill me coz casting packs is faster than 3 pools to kill me.
    why not ask an sns user try it on u first before u comment like this?

    and i wanna ask u a question, if u have an sns now bought or won from ursoth event, would ya say all of these against sns? i bet no, coz how much u paid for or u worked hard for to win the pet is enough justification of its OPness

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    I see the bigger picture, you magnubs dont want us to use SNS in this tournament rolf... go cry nabs!

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    let me get this straight , ppl didn't sleep well for days and worked very hard to earn the sns egg during the event , ppl bought the egg for crazy prices due to the rarity and its 3x samael price "before it was for more " so basically it must be more powerful than samael and other pets and still you want it to be nerfed ?! , trust me if you had this pet u would never ask dev to nerf it so why being selfish ?

    this pet is super rare/expensive and few people will have it so the point that it must be unique and powerful , its like the arcane maul when it came up , few people had it in lvl31 and it was rare and super op lol .

    you dont change stuff in game in order to suit your play style and make it easier for you , you change your play style. isn't there a gale for mages so they escape from dmg pools ? isnt there a shadow piercer for rogues to change position faster specially if its charged , isn't there a skill for tanks called jug to make you survive from huge dmg ? isnt there a rally cry for tanks to let you buff yourself and team with high speed and dodge to avoid dmg ?

    take a look at your skills / strategies and change them before asking dev to change stuff in game for u .

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    And to let the rumors silence, here's a video. This will show that the damage is not in the 600s as people are saying & I was able to survive the pools through the use of my skills! Amazing, right?

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8oqaWTA...e_gdata_player
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    And to let the rumors silence, here's a video. This will show that the damage is not in the 600s as people are saying & I was able to survive the pools through the use of my skills! Amazing, right?

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8oqaWTA...e_gdata_player
    awesome! this is exactly what im saying that the rogue cannot be killed by sns coz of packs .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    And to let the rumors silence, here's a video. This will show that the damage is not in the 600s as people are saying & I was able to survive the pools through the use of my skills! Amazing, right?

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8oqaWTA...e_gdata_player
    Lmfao why would you post that, we literally saw a arcane maxed rogue go from 100 to 23% in 3 seconds...

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    those who have sns vs those who dont have sns... them cries..

    Tbh buffing an already top notch pet is a stupid step.... but hey! these games are made by a super awesome company, a company who is famous for releasing content without testing it! cant expect more!

    Every step they take is based on customer feedback.. first they showed singe everyone cried and they nerfed it so much that it literally became useless.. they released nekro every singe owner cried so they buffed singe.. same with whim.... and now sns..

    They need to test their content before release! @_@ as they ask premium prices for them...

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